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Every six hours or so over the past few days we’ve been getting updated bits and pieces of this long-awaited and much-debated piece of Zelda fandom.
Finally, with our previous post of French fan flipping through their copy of Hyrule Historia and zooming in close enough to read the Japanese, Zelda fan-translator legend Glitterberri, famous for her more-accurate re-translations of Zelda instruction manuals and in-game text and manga, has managed to fully translate the entire timeline and provide it in English for us.
Ready to see it?
So what do you think? Was it all you ever hoped for? Do you wish they’d left it a mystery? Do you still have your doubts? Let us know what you think in the comments below.
Source: GlitterBerri
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When it says that the Hero of time is defeated it probably means that when he changed the past after getting the silver gauntlets and lens of truth he created a new Future and the old once he disappeared from completely, meaning he could not stop Ganondorf in that specific timeline.
Thus Link to the past followed in the original Timeline, it makes a lot of sense if you just take time to understand it.
I don't know about all of you but as it says The LEGEND of Zelda is only a legend. Legends are not what exactly happens and can be often changed as ages pass.
You haven't played the games, so why do you care?
the timeline makes complete sence, and you think you know better than the people that made the game? If there's something wrong, they'll notice it and probably make a new game, this is the timeline as we know now. Maybe, in five years, two or three new games can change the whole plot.
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ok tobe perfectly honest you guys have got nothing to complain about from day one of the zelda games nintendo said there is no time line so what do we do as fans we make one of our own in hope that we can drain more story from it so what nintendo have done is made an official time line that is no matter what way you look at it wil be wrong because the games were not designed for a time line from the start and every one crying about the hero of time cannot fail ummm why cant he he isnt immortal he dosent have super powers he just has the blood line of the hero of time which curses him to do battle with demise hatred recarnated so to be honest it makes perfect sence that link fails along his never ending strugle
actually, i believe someone from Nintendo has said there is a master time line. Wether this is that timeline or not is up for debate.
yea it was myamoto himnself the creator of zeldda who said there is one but they dont want to release it for resons this being one and 2 the timeline wasnt finish to to them always making new games
Nintendo should make a sequel to Majora's Mask where Link (The Hero of Time) grows up and leaves Termina. They shuld explain the bonds between Oot Link and Link from Twilight Princess (father-son maybe?) N can even fill plot holes, like explaining that how Ganondorf gets the Triforce of Power (execution scene in TP) after Link warned Zelda and the King of Hyrule about Ganondorf's plans.
That game would be so EPIC!!!
he accually left termina at the end it showed him in the woods
I had an idea, what if this all hinges on the fact that at the begining of OOT Link was not old enough to be the hero of time? What if in the original timeline Link was not sealed in sleep for 7 years and instead attemped to fight Ganon as a child? Maybe child Link dies fighting Ganon and Zelda (or the sages) realize their mistake in sending a child to fight and create a timeline that seals him until he is strong enough. We know zelda has the power to split timelines, so maybe the oot ending is not the first time she has messed with time.
Classic Timeline:
Link gets master sword —> Awakens sages –>Fights Ganon –>Dies–>Zelda creates first split–>Seal War
New Timeline:
Link gets master sword —> Sleeps 7 years–>Awakens sages –>Fights Ganon –>Wins–>Zelda creates second split
The problem with this Hero of Time defeated arguments is that we know that Link wasn't creating alternate times lines when he used his powers, that's the whole POINT of him being the Hero of Time.
Well…i would perhaps agree, otherwise each time Link went back into the past and then jumped forward into the future (by his reckoning) he'd have created a new timeline. One can't argue that a new timeline was only created once and that any access of the past thereafter tapped into that new timeline; we don't have any mechanism to explain why his access of the past one time would result in an extra future but any subsequent access of the past would not also result in further extra futures. The only argument we could possibly use would be to say that Link's access of the past was already part of a specific timeline, and therefore was in a single history…but then we must use this explanation for all instances wherein he accesses the past.
If Link is supposed to fail or whatever, they could always make a game like survival horror games, where there's separate endings depending on whatcha do. Like Fatal Frame 2 had an ending if you wanted to opt out of the final battle, which was essentially failure.
So, it's basically saying
HoT defeats / AT /WW/PH-ST
HoT defeated / 2D SS-tMC-FS-OoT-aLttP/OoS/OoA/LA-LoZ-AoL
HoT defeats / CT MM-TP-FSA
Well I did think of the aLttP/OoS/OoA/LA part, the SS-tMC part, and the three-way split, so it's not so much a shock to me.
Whoops, I meant…
So, it's basically saying
OoT prequels SS-tMC-FS
HoT defeats / AT OoT-WW/PH-ST
HoT defeated / 2D OoT-aLttP/OoS/OoA/LA-LoZ-AoL
HoT defeats / CT OoT/MM-TP-FSA
Well I did think of the aLttP/OoS/OoA/LA part, the SS-tMC part, and the three-way split, so it's not so much a shock to me.
Nice timeline EXCEPT THE HERO OF TIME FAILS THING! That's just too depressing.
Hold on one minute there! Am I seeing this right? Does anyone else see the suggestion implicated on the "Child Era" timeline that Ocarina of Time Link, when successful against Ganondorf, permits the continuation on to Majora's Mask which is then followed by Twilight princess? If that were the case, given the similarities between the geology of Hyrule in Twilight Princess and Ocarina of Time is it possible that Twilight Princess Link is in fact Link from Majora's Mask grown up? Does that make adult Link from OoT and TP Link one in the same? It would explain the vague comments made by the spirit who taught Link his various fighting moves in Twilight Princess.
That doesn't explain where the kokiri went, why the temple of time was in the lost woods, or what happened to the deku tree. I'm thinking that TP link is a decendant of OoT MM link (and maybe Malon) seeing as how he started off with Epona and worked as a goat herder/ranch hand (maybe they started to realize goat milk was better).
Also, to explain the problem of the Hero of Time failing since this seems to be the big debate at hand, I offer this explanation.
First things first. Where it states "The hero of time is defeated" I think we need to expand the possible perceptions of the word "defeated" since it at no point says killed, dies or died. I think a more accurate perception of the word would be "fails."
In Ocarina of Time, Link does actually does fail. He fails while as a child to prevent Ganondorf from entering the Sacred Realm. This generates the timeline in which we adult Link fighting off Ganondorf at the end of the game. There Ganondorf is sealed in the Sacred Realm and Zelda sends Link back to his original time where he is once again a child. At the very tail end of OoT we see young Link back in the castle courtyard meeting with Princess Zelda. It is very possible that Link explains here the events that took place in the future to Princess Zelda. It may be in the events of Link returning to his original time and Zelda being presented with the consequences of her actions that prevents Ganondorf from entering the Sacred Realm, thus generating a divergent timeline in which the Hero of Time succeeds. Problem left here is "What of the timeline where Link failed as a child to prevent Ganondorf from passing through the door of time?" Well, there's a lot of theories of time's progression after the effects of time travel, but if we follow the theory that that timeline still has to exist and therefore generates a separate dimension to house this new timeline, then it would only make sense that LttP would follow this timeline. At the end of Ocarina of Time ganondorf was sealed in the Sacred Realm, which is then later revealed to be the Dark World presented in LttP.
I could go on with further evidence as to how and why LttP matches up with the end of OoT and the fall of ganondorf but I think ZU would kill me if I made this post any longer.
I think i made sense of it!!! So link goes back in time… but he goes as far back as exactly seven years (no days or months). he creates some paradoxes that change the future, but it only happens in one reality. the world that he existed in before these paradoxes continues on until the remaining sages are awakened by Shiek/Zelda and they seal ganon as best they can without the hero of time. time passes by… ALttP… Back to OoT… Link goes and finishes awakening the sages, seals ganon, and goes back to before he pulled out the master sword (7 years X months X days). He tells Zelda what Ganondorf is planning to do and has him executed… MM… TP… FSA… Again back to OoT… however in the future that he went to and sealed ganon, the seal eventuallly breaks and WW follows… This kind of goes with DBZ Cell saga time rules (just because you change the past doesn't mean you'll change your own future) but has it's own mix as well.
hmmm… wonder if they plan on stitching this together…
………I will except this timeline. No, it does not make perfect sence; but it makes the most sence out of the others I have seen……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umS4flaa-20 MIND=BLOWN
Until miyamoto confirms this, i will not accept it. Too many holes and gaps. Like that guy up there said, SS rips this timeline a new one.
the hero of time is defeated when links go to the castle to give the spirutal stones to zelda but she was escaping of ganondor, because once u travel troug time and end the game,zelda dont return u to ur real time just after she escaped hyrule, she returns u before that, so that is like a pararel universe with the child era
it says that between mayoras mask and twilight princess ganondorf is executed and it reincarnates in the shadow era. then why do you fight him in twilight princess?? please answer
accually i nguess you could say he got exexuted really a month before the whole thing becouse the min he got sent to the twilight realm and gave zant power than attacked hyrule so there reallyinj the same age na the shadow area would be about the magic wielders who where sent to the twilight realm after trying to rule the sacred realm andf prove there magic was stronger than the triforce
The timeline actually makes more sense than you all would think.
I would personally like to see a more realistic-styled Zelda game based during The Sealing War, The Hyrule Unification War, or before The Minish Cap. Zelda would make a pretty interesting one-off strategy game. (One-off as in only ONE Zelda strategy game.) I think it would work out well. What do you all think?
i personlly would like to see a game showing how mc connect before oot reallty
I dont see how this timeline can be "official" as nintendo stated LITERALLY a week or so before SS was released that they would never release the official timeline until they felt that the legend had come to an end and that the story was finally complete and made sense…
One thing i've noticed here, in this timeline, is that somethings missing…
Where are the cameos that link has made in SSB, SSB;M, SSB;B and Soul Calibur II? surely they should have somekind of role to play in this timeline?
Crossovers are only canon to themselves. Link's appearances in the SMB games and Soul Calibur 2 aren't canon to the Zelda universe.
easy nintendo coulda pulled a hoax to stop those fans who kept calling nintendo and asking for the timeline prob getting them pissed off
Just thought that I would let you all know, I've just found this on IGN: http://uk.wii.ign.com/articles/121/1215301p1.html…
and down the page they say this "So there you go. Again, treat this with a slightly skeptical eye for the time being, as there could be errors or, perhaps, this might not be fully sanctioned by Nintendo (though we are under the impression that's the case). We'll bring you updates if something changes." so with that in mind, even THEY don't believe this is officially released by nintendo so NER!
Also, look at this one: http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/33906/z…
Hope this helps, cleared it all up for me anyway
To me this makes sense this whole "He fails" thing. if he fails as a kid, ganon gets the triforce, so ALTTP Happens. If he fails as an adult, same thing happens. as far as why this is important, (first, I think that Nintendo just didn't have a place to put the games) but this is the only game where link dying would make a major difference. Then end.
Why are you guys fighting so much about this? The timeline only concerns the placement of the games made so far, that have told us their stories. It doesn't have to account for every single timeline there could be, because we don't have games of those yet.
What if all that time-travelling fcked up the universe and created an alternate timeline??
And what if that universe had another timeline of its own wich is stated above?
And in that universe LINK* Failed?! against ganon.
And i´d like to see the games come out more frequently instead of after 3-6 years cuz then they wouldn´t forget that timeline they´re on.
Since Zelda is a best-seller series I think Nintendo should work alot more with some games in the story at least.
If i´m wrong please don´t come and shove the silver gauntletes up my ASS
* LINK is to epic to be spelled with versals
How about I just finish "Skyward Sword" and figure it out.
This is TOO MUCH for a novice.
I too constructed a timeline but it contains multiverses for every time Link in ocarina of time travels through time and creates useless empty universes and with those empty universe the twilight, and silent realm would too be empty.
I thought of something similar to this once. It was that if Link dies in A Link to the Past then Gannondorf takes over Hyrule and the goddesses flood it leading to Wind Waker.
Jeez, you'd think that the friggin timeline would be linear, but NOOOOOoooooo. It branches off into three sections. Understandable, but at the same time, confusing
What about fierce deity?!?
I mean when will we learn about him?
Guys, I may be wrong but I would like some feedback on this suggestion. I did not come up with this myself, but it is the idea that I like. If you guys find anything wrong with it, please tell me so we can think of something better!
Timeline 1 (Child Era): This is the timeline that Zelda sends link to at the end of OoT. It is not the same one that he started in (This is how the Ocarina works, as opposed to the Master Sword which sends him back to his original timeline.) Whither it was the Ocarina that sent him to this timeline by itself, or with tampering from Zelda, he ends up in a diffrent timeline then he started off the game in. The same one that leads to Majora's Mask.
Timeline 2 (Adult Era): This is the timeline where he beat Ganon, and then left behind. The same one that leads to Wind Waker.
Timeline 3 (Untouched Era): The original timeline that Link started in. Link goes to the future that is timeline 2 and this is the timeline that was left behind. Ganon was never challenged in this timeline by Link because he was gone (assuming that the master sword warps him back and forth through one timeline, he could have came back to this timeline when he had to get the Lens of Truth and Gauntlets) however, even though Link was gone, the Sages managed to somehow learn of their nature and subdue Ganon, which is why the sages exist in Alttp, which is the next game.
Overall, the Master Sword warps Link back and forth through one timeline, but when he is sent back by the Ocarina, he is sent back to an alternate timeline.
The only problem I can find with this is that, that means that a looot of timelines were created during Majora's Mask, but that could have always been the case. So I will say that Zelda did something special to make Link go back to a different timeline, so as to correct some kind of confusion that would occur if he went back to his own and then when he warped in MM, he only warped back and forth through one timeline. However, that doesn't matter very much whether or not he created more timelines in MM, I just would like to think he didn't so that it won't clutter up my brain, so I'll say it was Zelda's doing.
If you guys find anything wrong with my theory, I urge you to PLEASE tell me!
How about I just finish "Skyward Sword" and figure it out.
Aha! the truth has finally been revealed! Who would've thought that after all the theorizing, after all those efforts trying to piece all the games together, that most of us were wrong! There was actually a third timeline!
But still, I cannot help but feel like that idea was a cheeky move by Nintendo though. Even if it was the Hero of Time who had done the split, the fact that he had failed to save the day just this one time seems like a really dark interpretation of the timeline. In addition, the idea seems a little hard to swallow in some places (for example: how can Twinrova be alive in the Oracle series if they were killed in OoT?). Should we also imagine other splits in timelines for the other Links as well (where one of the many Links in each game fails to succeed)?
I don't know if Nintendo would continue to update the timeline as they continue to add more games to the timeline. Keeping this in mind, there may room for future theorizing still, although for now, we have a complete picture.
this is not right i have a friend who knows the head of nintendo in japan on facebook and he copied down the time line and there was never any third split and they all came back together at the end with zelda 2 being the last one
this is part of the timeline that i heard about was 1. skyward sword 2. four swords adventures 3. ocarina of time. split one where link looks for navi 4. majoras mask 5. twilight princess
or split two where link lives out his life 4. windwaker 5. phantom hourglass 6. spirit tracks.
both splits meet again and the other games go on and i didn't list them because i don't remember the entire thing and remember it ends with zelda 2
there that's what i know about the actual timeline from the head of nintendo.
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