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For those Zelda gamers out there who love to think that Nintendo actually does have this rich history behind the land of Hyrule and that all of the games are deeply interconnected, then Hyrule Historia is the gift that keeps on giving. While most of the Japanese Zelda fans will have already probed the vast tome of Zelda information already, we English-speakers are having a slower time of it as each page is painstakingly translated for us by fans.
And with the official timeline already revealed, some thought that that was all there was to be revealed. Not so! Zelda Universe forum member The Baton of the Wind revealed last night a connection between Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess that many theorists had been debating over for quite some time. However, now we can easily say with certainty that the Hero’s Shade from Twilight Princess is indeed OoT’s very own Hero of Time.
From Hyrule Historia, the text reads:
When Link first set foot in the Twilight, the crest of the Triforce of Courage shined on the back of his hand; when he returned to human-form he wore clothes the hero wore. Link is taught mysteries from the ghost of the hero of time. Since he returned to his childhood, he’d felt regret that he would leave his name as hero. Therefore, the “son” of Link speaks proof of the courage he inheirited mysteriously.
Looking back on it, the connection does seem pretty clear, though everything always seems 20/20 when you already know the answer. However, when you stop and think about the fact that Twilight Princess exists the only timeline in which the Hero of Time actually survives and exists makes it pretty clear that Miyamoto and Aonuma must have been doing some conspiring here all along to help tell a more cohesive Zelda timeline, even if all of the details weren’t actually revealed in-game but merely hinted at.
What other little secrets will we discover in this book? It certainly makes me hungry for an official translation!
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Serious question here guys, because there seems to be divided opinion… Where exactly does it say that the Hero's Shade is a Stalfos…? I'm looking at pictures and apart from a skeletal face (which is ok since he's quite dead) his limbs appear to be smoky flesh, not bone. If he was transformed did he retain his mind? If so, why? If it was the Triforce, why didn't that protect him fully…?
When he left Hyrule for Majoras Mask his triforce was split into three. And it's not like he couldn't accomplish great and dangerous feats without it I mean he never had it as a child did a lot of crazy stuff. So I HIGHLY doubt that the Hero of Friggen Time would meet his demise simply by getting lost in the woods. That would be such a crappy ending to such a beloved character. I'll also say I would've liked to see better physical representation as well as a better verbal one to of Heros Shade I just didn't feel it T_T
Also whats the story behind the missing eye?
Sorry meant split into 8 or whatever the number is.
i say that shade is the hero of time but hes not astalfos hes like a smart version on those dead spirits you seein hyrule castls in wolf form that walways point at a hint i think hes them but hes accually has a mind due to the godesses doing so he csn teach the next hero the moves he learned
i say that shade is the hero of time but hes not astalfos hes like a smart version on those dead spirits you seein hyrule castls in wolf form that walways point at a hint i think hes them but hes accually has a mind due to the godesses doing so he csn teach the next hero the moves he learned
Too bad there is no Hero of Time in the child timeline.
Whoops.
There is.
In OoT's ending, adult Link (the one who defeated Ganon) was rejuvenated and sent back in time. Which means that MM Link, and the Hero's Shade, are Adult Link (i.e. the Hero of Time) rejuvenated, not Child Link before opening the Door of Time.
This can be proven carefully watching OoT's ending: when Link and Zelda meet, Link still has the Courage of Courage on his hand, proving that everything from the adult timeline (as of that point, of course) has happened, and that Link retained his power and memories from his battle against Ganon.
That's why, while not holding anymore the 'Hero of Time' title, such Hero is still present in the child timeline. But since here the only thing he had to do was to warn everybody about the future (instead of actually slaying Ganon like he originally did in his own time), he felt he did not really take part in the action and thus, he felt he was not a hero anymore. So he felt regret for the rest of his life and, when he finally died, became a wandering ghost (because, you know, ghosts are dead people with unfinished business). When he met and trained TP Link, The Shade could pass on his abilities to be used against Ganon, thus indirectly taking part in the final battle this time, finishing his business and calming his own mind, finally resting in peace.
Now that I think about it, this might be the cause to why subsequent games let (ALttP, TWW) kids hold the Master Sword despite OoT stablishing that you have to be a grown up to do so: Since OoT's main conflict was the cosnequence of young Link NOT being able to hold the Master Sword (thus putting him to sleep inside the Sacred Realm, leaving the entrance open which allowed Ganon to enter there and touch the Triforce), the Goddesses decided, after these events, that fom then on, ANYBODY despite their age, could be able to use the Master Sword if they had apure heart.
This way, if Ganon (or any evil source thereof) rises again, the Chosen Hero would be able to save Hyrule without having to wait for several years or branching the Universe into new timelines.
How long can Link live? He isn’t a human, correct? So 100 years might not be that big of a deal for OoT Link, right? Oh and…
NEEDZ MOAR FIERCE DEITY LINK!
This is Pretty much the "Zelda Bible" :3
hmm maybe the ghost link is the hero that died by the hands of ganon?
Nope. TP takes place in a different timeline that the one in which the Hero died in the hands of Ganon. Such timeline leads into AttP, not TP. So the Hero's Shade still defeated Ganon and sealed hm into the Sacred Realm.
The whole "Link turns into a Stalfos right after Majora's Mask" doesn't make sense. If so, how the hell did he invent the Hidden Skills if he died right after that game? Where the hell did he get that armor? Also he looks more like a Zombie, similiar to the other ghosts that appear in Twilight Princess. The Hero's Shade is a ghost and not a Stalfos. It is possible that he had a more tragic ending but it is fair to assume that he at least lived long enough to invent the Hidden Skills and probably leaving an offspring.
And even if he didn't invent them, he at least had to aquire them before dying.
WTF? "Therefore, the “son” of Link speaks proof of the courage he inheirited mysteriously." is link in TP a link jr? or am i understanding wrong?
As the text celarly explains it, The Shade just ADRESSES Link as his son. That is, he just calls it like that, It's not meant to be taken literally, but metaphorically -the Shade sees Link as his successor, and as a younger one too, hence, the "son", just like many grown ups call kids "son" or "sonny" as a sign of respect or familiarity to the more youthful ones.
That's a real stupid assumption. Did or did they not just clear that it is Link from OOT? If Link was going to turn in to a Stalfos then why didn't he do when I first entered The Lost Woods in OoT? Exactly! So what happens to Epona? The Ocarina? Where is Navi? That's what I wanna know.
Wait a minute. This means that LINK SPEAKS! He's not mute!
I don't think he turned into a stalfos, well I hope not because that'd be sad. Was Link from OOT that tall too?
I am about to offer a theory that many of you might think is BS but let's all just speculate shall we? Let's ASSUME people that another possibility is that the green Kokiri tunic Link wears affords him the abilities of the kokiri. (In other words: He is unaffected by the curse of the Lost Woods and can easily find his way out. Remember now: TP Link went in there and came out and what does he wear? OOT Link's tunic!) Why can I say this? Didn't any of you find it STRANGE that the base tunic had no special power? Sure nothing was said and all it said was that it was your starting tunic but let's for argument's sake say it had that power but it was never mentioned since perhaps no one had thought to argue it at the time. It would surely make since the Goron tunic deals with a fire environment and the Zora tunic deals with water. Therefore, Kokiri should deal with forest. What I'm getting at is this: If the kokiri tunic really had such a power, Link could have easily gone in and out of that forest. On top of that, he could have returned to Hyrule. Let's also think about this: the Hero's Shade's armor. Yes, nothing tells us he was wearing the Kokiri tunic at the time of his death and to boot he's a stalfos! Holy Crap! Yeah, that is pretty weird. I believe that was done for Link to take a form in the spiritual world. If he REALLY didn't have problems appearing otherwise, he would have just met Link in human form to begin with and TP Link probably would have found the Ocarina of Time, possibly. Link is not the magic specialist, he is the fighter. ZELDA's the so-called magician between the two of them, Ganondorf if we speak of all three. That may have been all he could manage. It could have also been a projection of a lurking fear within TP Link; a form to test the courage of the new hero. Can he stare down a subconscious fear and grow from it? Kind of thing. On the topic of his armor. If he came back to Hyrule, do you think he woulda just twiddled his thumbs? Of course not! He said he REGRETTED leaving his name as just the hero. He probably just returned and joined the knights of hyrule. While I think saying that he and Malon started Ordon would be a tad over-ambitious, I would definitely say Malon would be a far more viable candidate for his child than Zelda. In Skyward Sword, there was a definite chemistry. In OOT it was more Link's innate sense of chivalry and perhaps even the curse Demise placed on his predecessors that led him to be so strong about saving her. With this in mind, we have an idea of where he got the armor. Even his sword could have been just an upgrade of the glided sword or even a new one issued to him as a knight. The shield? An old and worn mirror shield.
There you have it folks. That is my guess. Remember now. It's a GUESS. Don't go and freak out if you have a different opinion.
the thing is strange in OoT is when Zelda met you at the first time and you said your name…She said "Link…….strange…it sounds somehow…familiar.".
i mean im not a hater or anything its just i hate the idea of oot link becoming a stalfos randomly just like that i mean he was living in the forest all his life and he never got lost before
and tbh its kinda sad and a "terrible fate" but i still cant believe he's link
even if nintendo confirmed it their trying so hard to connect the games together i mean why would link dress weird and all
i mean it would be better if he was oot link's dad who died and was a knight and knights in hyrule kinda dress the same way as the hero's shade and he also knew the song of healing im thinking he has something to do with the mask salesmen since he quickly recognize link's potential– but that was my theory before they confirmed it :/
Who says it's not Skyward Sword Link? I mean, he was a hero of time.
I agree with the post but the are pin points to this even if it has a time line couldent he have lived his whole life trying to find Navi or … Did he make it back to Hyrule and Hooked up With Malon Because Ive spent Hours!!! and i couldent find the answer ….These are one of the most biggest mysterys in the Zelda series!!!!!
It's pretty obvious that OOT Link did returned to Hyrule.
We do not know what happend to OoT link. He COULD have turned into a stalfos. He COULD have returned to hyrule. He COULD have followed a purple grasshopper for the rest of his life. We only know that he regreted not being the hero anymore. The stalfosy look might just be the form in which his spirit appered to TP Link. The armor and equiptment did not need to be what he wore when he lived. It could be that nintendo just wanted to picture the spirit that way and the is not connection at all.
As far as Tp link being OoT link's son, it is possible if incedably unlikely. TP link would more likely be a distant desendant or simply a metaporical son.