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Old 09-05-2009, 08:32 PM
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Zeldaduderox's LEGIT timeline for 2009

Alright, I don't know if anyone has read my earlier timeline that I made, but I now realize it's gibberish. Now I've thought hard and well, and decided to make a new one. Until the next Zelda game is realesed, this will be correct.

Now, for those of you who say, "Minish Cap came first because that's when Link got his cap!" You are wrong, oh so wrong. It says on Wikipedia, Zeldapedia, and Zelda Wiki (Three sources) that Ocarina of Time is intended to be at the beginning of the timeline. If you still think Minish Cap comes first, that is a totally different incarnation of Link, and he just got his cap a different way. So there's my evidence behind Ocarina of Time coming first in the timeline.

Ocarina of Time has a paradox, that seperates it in two timelines. Adult, and child. Because there are two ways for Ganondorf to be executed and for him to come back. Starting with the Adult Timeline, Link goes to the future and slays Ganon into the Dark Realm. Centuries later, Ganon attempts to break the seal on the Dark Realm. Leaving Link to slay him in another incarnation. The Master Sword is still in play in this game because Link puts it back into the pedestal of time in Ocarina of Time. This game, Is A Link to the Past. Again, on the Master Sword, it is found in the Lost Woods assumably the Temple of Time overgrown with woods, forests, and trees etc. Ganon, eventually is killed but his incarnations will eventually come back. And Ganondorf, Ganon's human form, is still living up to the end of A Link to the Past. At the end of the game, Link recovers the triforce which teleports him into two seperate worlds. These games would end up to be Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons.

In the Oracle games, two Gerudo witches called Twinrova bring Ganondorf (their son) back to life. Link eventually kills him and leaves. Sadly, Ganon returns but there is no Link to stop him. So the goddesses flood the world entirely, creating the Great Sea.

This ends up to be Wind Waker, where the Master Sword is still in play and Link eventually kills Ganon/Ganondorf. Turning Ganondorf to stone and burying him under the sea. Link eventually leaves this area of the Great Sea and goes to the events of Phantom Hourglass. Here, Link eventually defeats Bellum and awakens the Ocean King. Awakening the Wind Fish and causing the events of Link's Awakening. This ends the Adult Timeline for now.

Back to Ocarina of Time in the Child Timeline, Link returns to the past of his former age and warns Zelda of Ganondorf and Ganon. This causes the sages to execute Ganondorf into the Twilight Realm. Meanwhile, Link searches for his partner from Ocarina of Time, Navi, and causes the events of Majora's Mask to occur. Some items from Majora's Mask have brief cameos or possible facts, but I'll talk about that later. Anyway, post-Majora's Mask Link assumably get's Lost in the Lost Woods and gets killed.

After this happens the events of Twilight Princess occur, as I said earlier in Ocarina of Time Link warns Zelda about Ganondorf, so the sages execute him. He escapes from the Twilight Realm by the power of Zant, and tries to attack Link and Hyrule. One interesting character is the Hero's Shade who teaches Link various "special" attacks. The Hero's Shade is possibly Link from Ocarina of Time. Remember earlier where I said Link get's lost in the Lost Woods? Well he turns into a stalfos from that, and the Hero's Shade is a skeletal figure. He also has what appears to be the gilded sword and the mirror shield from Majora's Mask. At the final teaching for Link and his final words, he says, "Go and do not falter, my child." Which could either mean his studend or possibly his father. If he were his father then who would his mother be? Well the most likely woman that hasn't turned into a sage is Malon, who could or couldn't be Link's father in Twilight Princess. This is just a speculation.

After this game the next game in the timeline is assumably Zelda: Wii, I can't say anything on this that has been proven as this game has yet to come out. The next game in the timeline is Minish Cap, where the Master Sword is destroyed and is reforged into the four sword. This is why Minish Cap can't be at the beginning of the timeline because Ocarina of Time contains the Master Sword. After Minish Cap the events of The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords occur and Four Swords Adventure occur. Some say that they are two different Links, but whether they are or not, it doesn't matter because Ganon is trapped inside the Four Sword and eventually breaks the seal. This starts the original Zelda. The Legend of Zelda.

In this game Ganon kidnaps the princess and Link and a different Link has to save her. The "damsal in distress" as some would say. Link eventually kills Ganon with the use of the Silver Arrow. In The Legend of Zelda: The Adventure of Link, Ganon's minions attempt to bring Ganon back to life by killing Link. Obviously, they're unsucessfull. The reason why Zelda 1 and 2 are so far out of the timeline, is because they in no way mention the Master Sword. The first mentioning of the Master Sword was in A Link to the Past, way over on the other side of the timeline.

So as of now in 2009, the timeline is completed. For now.

Adult Timeline: OoT--ALttP--OoA/OoS--WW--PH--LA
Child Timeline: OoT--MM--TP--Zelda: Wii--MC--FS/FSA--LoZ--AoL
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Old 09-05-2009, 08:51 PM
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OoT: WW/PH
OoT: MM--TP

This is confirmed.

OoX goes on the CT, due to Twinrova being alive.

You didn't place the FS games.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:10 PM
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Now, for those of you who say, "Minish Cap came first because that's when Link got his cap!" You are wrong, oh so wrong.
What about if we ignore the cap and say MC is first because:
1) Vaati may be the origin of the Sheikah symbol
2) The MC backstory (the hero of men) is an explanation for how Zelda
got the power she wields throughout the series.
3) The possible presence of the Light Force in the Master Sword & Light Arrows

This is hardly a "cap issue", but you have to admit, none of the Kokiri wear
a cap like Link's. His is unique. Maybe it was the only inheritance his mother
could leave him?

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It says on Wikipedia, Zeldapedia, and Zelda Wiki (Three sources) that Ocarina of Time is intended to be at the beginning of the timeline.
Do you have any sources that aren't before TMC?

EDIT: Oh, and no hero is between OoT and WW
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:20 PM
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This is hardly a "cap issue", but you have to admit, none of the Kokiri wear
a cap like Link's. His is unique. Maybe it was the only inheritance his mother
could leave him?


Three of these Kokiri share link's hat style.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:24 PM
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^ Yet none of them are long & droopy (or brimmed), like Link's cap.
Indeed they are short and pointy. My point exactly



EDIT: In fact, it looks like (maybe) young Link is wearing an adult-sized cap
that he will eventually grow into... and Kokiri never grow up...

EDIT2: Adult Link would look pretty funny in the tiny cap worn by Mido & friends
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:41 PM
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What about if we ignore the cap and say MC is first because:
1) Vaati may be the origin of the Sheikah symbol
2) The MC backstory (the hero of men) is an explanation for how Zelda
got the power she wields throughout the series.
3) The possible presence of the Light Force in the Master Sword & Light Arrows
My gosh, I'm surprised you still think MC came first. Vaati's race is Human and minish for the shiekah symbol, rather than the shiekah symbol being based off of Vaati it could be the other way around. Zelda always wields the triforce of wisdom, that's her source of power. The light force is irrellevent to the Master Sword! You're missing the entire point, if the Master Sword/Picori Sword was forged into the Four Sword, then it could not be before Ocarina of Time because the Master Sword exists within Ocarina of Time!
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:53 PM
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:58 PM
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Um. I'm not really sure how to type your name now that you've flipped it, so is it okay if I just use your old name when referring to you?

It's taken me a while to compose this, so here's one thing. You said "could or couldn't be Link's father" about Malon, was that intentional?

You make a few assumptions that seem pretty groundless to me. Would you mind giving some back up information on why you think OoT/MM Link dies, and why you think the Master Sword is destroyed?





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EDIT: In fact, it looks like (maybe) young Link is wearing an adult-sized cap
that he will eventually grow into... and Kokiri never grow up...
I was going to say something like that for his entire outfit, but I didn't want to derail the thread further. I sort of think, if we're saying the clothes are from his mom, that they belonged to his father. Bit too fanfic-y to me, though.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:11 PM
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This is ocarinahero10's timeline... :/

Awkward fact: nearly all 2d Zelda games must fall into the same timeline, and nearly all of them have post-flood and adult timeline refernces.


And The Minish Cap has more post-flood references than there is brains cells in your theorising brain section.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:59 PM
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This is ocarinahero10's timeline... :/

Awkward fact: nearly all 2d Zelda games must fall into the same timeline, and nearly all of them have post-flood and adult timeline refernces.


And The Minish Cap has more post-flood references than there is brains cells in your theorising brain section.
It's been a long time since I've played TMC. What are some of the post flood references?

I still am not sure as to where to place TMC, FS, and FSA.

Thanks.
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Old 09-05-2009, 11:03 PM
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^Crap, your right on that. Please don't sue me ocarinahero10.

Anyway, Ogrum I'm fine if you refer to me as Zeldaduderox, I even refer to myself as such. In the game it says the Master Sword is reforged to the Four Sword. The Master Sword is the Picori Sword.
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Alrighty. And as for Link dying/becoming Stalfos?
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I'm saying that's a possibility, it is just a thoery for that part.

If you read closely enough, you would see that if he died in the Lost Woods, he would be the Hero's Shade. Though we can't say this for certain, it is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, likely for that shade to be the Link from Ocarina of Time/Majora's Mask because The only Link before the TP Link was OoT/MM Link in that timeline. So that proves it even more. Though if the hero's shade wasn't Link from OoT/MM, then Link would never had died in Lost Woods. You get what I'm saying?
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I do. Thanks for explaining.
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apply this to every post the OP has made, especially the BS (not backstory) about the MS being reforged as the FS. Prove it, and don't use it as circular reasoning to disprove tMC-OoT.

NEVER watch Ocarinahero10's videos. He is the biggest idiot I've ever heard of, except for the people who agree with him without any independent research. *cough*
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Why oh WHY are there more people arguing Ocarinahero on this thing?

We've dismissed his bullcrappery so many many times on this thing....

WHY MUST YOU PERSIST?
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Adult Timeline: OoT--ALttP--OoA/OoS--WW--PH--LA
Child Timeline: OoT--MM--TP--Zelda: Wii--MC--FS/FSA--LoZ--AoL
Um.......no. LA has to follow either ALttP or OoS/OoA. Zelda Wii isn't confirmed yet. OoT-AlttP doesn't work because of TWW and this timeline is a bunch of BS. I recomend reading the newbies guide to theorizing.

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OoX goes on the CT, due to Twinrova being alive.
Baised. OoX has other references, like to FPTRRL which is confirmed to come on the AT.
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Baised. OoX has other references, like to FPTRRL which is confirmed to come on the AT.
lol, "confirmed"

TFPRCRL isn't even confirmed as canon.
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Neither is OoX. I don't see your point.
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^ but they're part of the main LoZ series, which Tingle games are not. Like Super Mario Galaxy is part of the Super Mario Series whereas Mario Kart is not
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