Ganon himself not evil?

Originally Posted by smallville boy

Isn't for a decent purpose, he was evil and that's all.
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TWW disagrees with you. Don't use that last fairy just yet

That's one of the central themes of Twilight Princess, Aura Pulse.

I recognize it now that you say it, however what is your point?

Originally Posted by Aura Pulse

I recognize it now that you say it, however what is your point?

Well, just that you were probably right, since Twilight Princess is all about how power corrupts.

Originally Posted by JoGoron

Well, just that you were probably right, since Twilight Princess is all about how power corrupts.

Oh, I see. Although FSA could be given, as the Trident was evil to begin with.

Originally Posted by Aura Pulse

TWW disagrees with you. Don't use that last fairy just yet

Hitler want a better life for his people and not for that he had a decent purpose, he was a evil man, he was a monster, just like ganondorf. He had other ways to give a better life to his people.
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The theory is that Ganon himself is not evil

and it's impossible.

Ganon is ressurected without the entity of Ganondorf in OoS/OoA and he's the pure embodiment of evil with his "KILL ALL" speach.

Similarily in AST where we learn even if Ganondorf dies, Ganon will live, the Ganon in AST is evil and still intending to conquor Hyrule.

So no, that's impossible.

Originally Posted by smallville boy

Hitler want a better life for his people and not for that he have a decent purpose, he was a evil man, he was a monster, just like ganondorf.He have other ways to give a better life to his poeple.
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As far as I understand (I haven't delved to deep into WWII studies quite yet), Hitler was racist against Jews, was he not? Racism of religion isn't prominent in Legend of Zelda, unless you count the Stone Tower business as slander. My knowledge of Hitler's motivations are naive an intellectual one on ZU would cry, but I remember seeing in a document that various incedents in war in which Hitler would miraculously survived led him to believe he was meant to acheive a great purpose in life. One could say he was blinded by racism and destiney, did he believe what he was doing was right? Probably.

Ganondorf could be related to him in many ways if you go this route, who's to say he didn't cause genocide in the 7 years Link was asleep? However, both Hitler and Ganondorf were not just born evil. They had to be influenced, and both most likely believed what they were doing was right, (Ganondorf, until he just got greedy and abandoned 'Right' all together).

koume and kotake(two evil witches) are the surrogate mothers of ganondorf,He grow up with two evil mothers, that xplain why he is evil.

Conclusion:Ganondorf was evil before he obtain the triforce.

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You got this idea from my fanfic, didn't you?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Ganon is ressurected without the entity of Ganondorf in OoS/OoA

Entity? Ganon and Ganondorf are the same person in a different form. The SNES ALttP manual and OoT even state/suggest that Ganon was a nickname before Ganondorf ever transformed.

Anyway, as others have pointed out, Ganondorf is aware of what he's doing. He isn't possessed by an evil entity and he wasn't even possessed in FSA; NoA just mistranslated the Trident text. The Japanese text says that the Trident was merely an evil tool.

Originally Posted by Trident Inscription (Japanese FSA)

Born from darkness, the demon's evil device, the trident

Originally Posted by Red Maiden (Japanese FSA)

Ja-ki… Demon's evil device, the trident…?

Originally Posted by Zelda (Japanese FSA)

King of Darkness… The man who took the Trident, the demon's evil device (ja-ki) revived from ancient times!!

Originally Posted by Aura Pulse

Ganondorf could be related to him in many ways if you go this route, who's to say he didn't cause genocide in the 7 years Link was asleep? However, both Hitler and Ganondorf were not just born evil. They had to be influenced, and both most likely believed what they were doing was right, (Ganondorf, until he just got greedy and abandoned 'Right' all together).

People are often seemingly born evil. Some of the socio-pathic killers seem that way, along with the Kid who murdered his parents when they grounded him from Halo. Of course, Ganondorf may not have been evil when he was born, but during every video game he is in he is evil then. Even before he had the ToP. Also, beliving one is doing the right thing is not justification for doing evil acts.

Originally Posted by morgoth834

People are often seemingly born evil. Some of the socio-pathic killers seem that way, along with the Kid who murdered his parents when they grounded him from Halo. Of course, Ganondorf may not have been evil when he was born, but during every video game he is in he is evil then. Even before he had the ToP. Also, beliving one is doing the right thing is not justification for doing evil acts.

That Halo thing is pretty sketchy, but really, I don't even think Hitler fell out of the womb and said "alright, gonna kill some dudez!!!" Just...no. Whether it starts young, or old, there is influence, no one is BORN evil.

No, no way whatsoever. Ganon is evil, he is totally evil. Whether possessed by it or just evil, he is evil. Possibly Din was a little more evil than Farore and Nayru (Explains alot about Dinnies ). but no matter what, Ganon is evil.

Originally Posted by zeldaduderox

No, no way whatsoever. Ganon is evil, he is totally evil. Whether possessed by it or just evil, he is evil. Possibly Din was a little more evil than Farore and Nayru (Explains alot about Dinnies ). but no matter what, Ganon is evil.

As long as we've established he became evil...

I'm not sure if he became evil or was evil from the start.

I believe it's safe to say, he's evil.

Originally Posted by langford

Nintendo has even said there is only one Ganondorf.

Source? It's pretty obvious that there is more than one Ganondorf. Ganon dies in TP, tWW, ALTTP, OoX, and LoZ. There's no way all Ganondorfs are the same. The Ganondorf we see in OoT, TP, and tWW is a completely different Ganondorf than the one we hear about in FSA.

^ Different incarnations of Ganon/dorf. He's still the same, uh.. spirit, or whashammacallit

Hombre de Mundo has a point there.

I don't see why Ganondorf being a greedy power-hungry ruthless meglomaniac can't also be reconciled with him being a man who genuinely wants what's best for his people.

Ganondorf is certainly not a good man, but no one's all 100% bad, and I think his desire for a better life for all Gerudo is a redeeming factor. After all, did the Gerudo in Ocarina of Time after seven years of Ganondorf rule have it so bad? No, not at all. Ganondorf wants what's best for them, or at least what he believes to be best for them.

I don't think Ganondorf is naturally born evil. He's just corrupted by greed and his desire for revenge.

I think the beast form, Ganon.. is just a representation of the evil that does eventually consume him.

^ Here here.