Majora = Dark Interloper?

"Majora" refers to the creator of the mask, not the mask itself.

Anyway, the Happy Mask Salesman's description of the ancient race who created Majora's Mask sounds like the Twili before they were banished into Twilight Realm, and the Fused Shadow looks kind of like Majora's Mask. Also, Midna in Fused Shadow form reminds me of Majora's Wrath.

All of the Moon Kids look like the mask salesman, so the Mask Salesman may be a Moon Kid who left the Moon and grew up. The Moon Kids ask Link if he'll be a mask salesman, too. (like the Mask Salesman?) The Mask Salesman could be considered proof that all the Moon Kids aren't just something the Mask created when it went into the moon.

The fact that Majora's Mask decided to make the moon crash into Termina and plant itself on one of the Moon Kids' faces, (which upon doing so, would make it possible for the mask-wearing children to leave the moon and set foot in Termina, which I suspect may have been intended) and the Mask Salesman's apparent interest in Majora's Mask, suggests that the Moon Kids may have something to do with the creator of the mask.

If the mask salesman is, in fact, related to Majora, then his knowledge of secret paths out of Termina and into Hyrule may have also been known to Majora.

According to Twilight Princess, the Dark Interlopers are said to have appeared, and showed their sorcerous skills then, which suggests that they didn't begin their magic studies in Hyrule, or else they wouldn't have appeared with such mastery over sorcery. It is possible that Majora and his race used their magic to find a way into Hyrule in an attempt to take it over.

In any case, it is unlikely that, if the Moon Kids were there before Skull Kid put on the mask, that the Boss Masks came to them when Majora's Mask did. In fact, it wouldn't be too far-fetched to say that the Moon Kids' Boss Masks are the first of their kind.

Majora's Wrath seems to be the Mask trying to create its own incarnation of itself, and not what the wearer looks like when using its true power, which Skull Kid couldn't.

Sorry if this is too fanfic-y; I have a lot of fanfic ideas stemming from this theory. I tried to make it as non-overly-fanfic-y as possible.

Where do you get the idea that Majora created the mask?

The apostrophe just indicates possession. Majora could be
the owner of the mask, or most likely, they call it Majora's Mask
because it is Majora's Prison. Majora does break loose once
he is done with the Skull Kid

Originally Posted by Spoon Link

Anyway, the Happy Mask Salesman's description of the ancient race who created Majora's Mask sounds like the Twili before they were banished into Twilight Realm, and the Fused Shadow looks a lot like Majora's Mask. Also, Midna in Fused Shadow form reminds me of Majora's Wrath.

The Fused Shadow looks absolutely nothing like Majora's Mask. One little similar eye is not enough to prove otherwise. And Midna in Fused Shadow form looks nothing like Majora's Wrath.

Originally Posted by Spoon Link

If the mask salesman is, in fact, related to Majora, then his knowledge of secret paths out of Termina and into Hyrule may have also been known to Majora.

Okay. Good theory.

Originally Posted by Spoon Link

According to Twilight Princess, the Dark Interlopers are said to have appeared, and showed their sorcerous skills then, which suggests that they didn't begin their magic studies in Hyrule, or else they wouldn't have appeared with such mastery over sorcery. It is possible that Majora and his race used their magic to find a way into Hyrule in an attempt to take it over.

Word of the Sacred Realm started to spread throughout Hyrule before the Interloper/Fierce War. It's probable that the legend also went beyond Hyrule's borders and reached foreign ears, who then decided to pay Hyrule a little visit. If you believe the Interlopers = Zuna theory, this makes some sense. Or, the Interlopers may have been not a race, but an organization made up of members of many different races, including the Gerudo, the Shiekah, the Zuna, etc.

Sorry, by "a lot" I really meant "kind of."

(Wow, I really need to work on that.)

Anyway, it is possible that it started with the race of mages, but more people interested in a takeover of Hyrule started joining and they were of all different races.

I have no idea how the Song of Healing or Fierce Deity's Mask fit into all this, all I know is that they probably will fit somehow.

And what I meant by the Fused Shadow reminding me of Majora's Wrath was what Majora's muscles look like when they form compared to the Fused Shadow's appendages.

And, I didn't get the last part of your sentence because Four Swords Adventures is the only Zelda game I haven't played yet.

Originally Posted by Spoon Link

According to Twilight Princess, the Dark Interlopers are said to have appeared, and showed their sorcerous skills then, which suggests that they didn't begin their magic studies in Hyrule, or else they wouldn't have appeared with such mastery over sorcery. It is possible that Majora and his race used their magic to find a way into Hyrule in an attempt to take it over.

The Dark Interlopers are known as the Shadow Clan in the original Japanese text, which does not imply that they started their training elsewhere and suddenly appeared (as the English name for them implies).

Lanayru's story also says that the Interlopers appeared "among those (English)" or "amidst (Japanese)" the early races of Hyrule, which suggests that the Dark Interlopers were from Hyrule, and not from Termina.

I'm not going to lie, I really like the idea of more links to Majora's Mask, which would give the game a better position in the history of Hyrule, but the Shadow Clan were definitely Hylian.

However, Majora's place of origin is somewhat ambiguous, seeing as how the Happy Mask Man was traveling from Hyrule to Termina when he had it in his possession. If one were to discount the multiple appearances of Majora all around Termina as Skull Kid being an egotistical loon and carving his new face on everything, then Majora could possibly be from Hyrule, and could probably be an artifact of the Dark Interlopers.

Originally Posted by TheBattler

...but the Shadow Clan were definitely Hylian.

??? You mean from Hyrule (the Light World) right?

If the mask salesman is, in fact, related to Majora, then his knowledge of secret paths out of Termina and into Hyrule may have also been known to Majora.

I don't get what this means, the HMS just followed Link down the
treehole right?

Majora, if you don't know was sealed away in a mask. Not the creator of it.

"Majora" refers to the creator of the mask, not the mask itself

That's complete rubish. In Japanese, Majora isn't even called Majora, but something more along the lines of "Mukora" which means Evil Demon (or something like that).

Jap text also suggests that Majora is an evil spirit sealed inside the mask.

So this theory is incorrect, simply looking at that sentance.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

That's complete rubish. In Japanese, Majora isn't even called Majora, but something more along the lines of "Mukora" which means Evil Demon (or something like that).

Really? I thought it was just "Mujura".

Originally Posted by Jarsh

Really? I thought it was just "Mujura".

It is. And according to Average Gamer, Mujura meaning demon/devil is false. I need to find a source to see whether it's true or not.

Not again... u_u

I thought Majora's Mask was a tool used by the DI in the SW and was sent to Termina after the DI was sealed into the TR.

^To the original poster, I think that you regard the interior of the moon a little too literally. While this opinion is too, speculative, I think that the interior of the moon can only really be taken symbollically.

太古の とある民族が 呪いの儀式で 使っていたとされる 伝説の 呪物なのです
A certain race in ancient times used it for their cursing ceremonies. It is a legendary fetish.
It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals.

Above is the most direct Japanese translation of the 'hexing ritual' quote I have been given, and it may be of interest here. Green is the direct translation and red is the text as it appeared in western versions of the game. There might be something of meaning in those slight differences, i'm not sure.

I have never seen a connection to the race mentioned within Twilight Princess, that attempted to seek dominion over the Sacred Realm through magic. Nor do we know where Majora's Mask came from - the Mask Salesman travels 'far and wide in search of masks', as he states himself. Because of this, it may not originate from Hyrule or Termina.

However, there is the slightly Majora's Mask-esque 'stone face' as it appears in Stone Tower, which I believe does bear resemblance. And images of Majora's Mask do appear across Termina - more than we can account for. The images of Majora's Mask within Twinmold's lair are especially suspicious, because they show a Majora's Mask with less spikes and a few other differences to the usual image found upon blocks and switches.

Considering also the Masks' intentions with Termina, and it's decision to strike Termina at it's direct centre (Ironially where the Giants first dispanded, see the story of the Four Giants), coupled simply with Termina's cultural use of Masks (see the story of the Carnival of Time), everything points to Majora's Mask being involved solely with Termina.

I am unsure where the need to link Majora's Mask with the story in Twilight Princess has come from. The 'eye' on the Fused Shadows is the only real debateable connection, and as it stands the Fused Shadows and Majora's Mask really couldnt be more different in terms of the nature of their respective powers.

Originally Posted by Triforce of the Gods

It is. And according to Average Gamer, Mujura meaning demon/devil is false. I need to find a source to see whether it's true or not.

http://forums.legendsalliance.com/in...=14202&st=1200

Starting at post # 1,218.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

http://forums.legendsalliance.com/in...=14202&st=1200

Starting at post # 1,218.

Well there you go, Mujura is another word made up by Nintendo.