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Old 08-22-2009, 11:36 AM
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Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Nonono, I refuse to put any games on the adult timeline except for The Wind Waker, Pantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks.

Therefore, this is my current enliemit:


Child Timeline: tMC - OoT/MM - TP - OoS/OoA - FS/FSA - aLttP/AST/LA - LoZ/AoL
Adult Timeline: tMC - OoT - tWW/PH - ST

Don't give me any rants that there are other games on the adult timeline- I refuse to accept it until a know a few things about Spirit Tracks: the new world is actually called 'Hyrule', there is a royal family, the new world actually has places called 'Death Mountain', 'Zora's Domain', and 'Lake Hylia'.

What will you do i the new world is called 'New Hyrule', has Lake Cukeman, Mt. Erimgard, Potent's Domain, and Pinecove Field? Instead of being called Hyrule, has Lake Hylia, Death Mountain, Zora's Domain, and Hyrule Field? It might have completely different landmarks- and a different name!

The new world could be called Nerushi, for all we know. Who says Tetra's descendent will even go by the name 'Zelda'? She mentioned that she didn't want to go with that name.

And if the new world has different landmarks completely - from both their name and geographic position and who inhabit them - and the new world is either called 'New Hyrule' or is different to all the others, what will you do? Heck, who said there will even be any of the traditional rcaes in the games and not new ones?

Edit: My timeline now looks like this:

Child Timeline: tMC - FS/FSA - OoT/MM - TP - aLttP/AST/LA - LoZ/AoL - OoS/OoA
Adult Timeline: tMC - FS/FSA - OoT - tWW/PH - ST
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:00 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Potent get it through your head Tetra told the pirates not to call her Zelda until they found the new land. Also from the trailers we have there's definately going to be a royal family. The rest i won't argue with for four more months as it's a pointless debate at this time.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:06 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

If you're going on about not knowing, you may aswell completely destroy your timeline untill ST comes out. Sure we barely know anything about it: But we can't rule out the fact tht it probobly WILL call the land Hyrule.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:17 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

They will most liely called it NEW Hyrule, not Hyrule. See: OLD Kakariko, NEW Kasuto. Thereore, NEW Hyrule will likely be the official name. And boy, will that create a stir of debates.

And the fact remains- I expect a completely different overworld and different landmarks. And Pincove, Oni... where do the trains go i the other games take place ater it? The adult timeline shows advancing technology, n0t going backwards. The new world has trains and tracks.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:30 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

The trains aren't important to the story of the other game so they need no explanation. Also why call it new hyrule when very few people even know there was an old hyrule?
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:32 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Different area of Hyrule. AoL shows 5 sectons...we know there are more.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:41 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

They used the names 'New Kasuto' and 'Old Kakariko'. Therefore, they use the terms 'New' and 'Old' for locations, meaning the most likely name of 'New Hyrule. See: New Mexico, New England.

The one thing that makes me possibly place the first two SNES games on the adult timeline is: The Advetnure of Link has four maps sections and another in the south, while Spirit Tracks also appears to have four map sections and a huge overworld big enough to need train travel.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:42 PM
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Potent, stop stating these things as fact. ST hasn't come out yet, so you know nothing about it.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:45 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Yes Potent but think about it. Old Hyrule is gone and not many people know about. SO why name the land New Hyrule when nobody but Tetra and Link would know an old Hyrule existed?
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:51 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

In The Adventure of Link, there is a town called NEW Kasuto, given NEW because it was the second town to go by that name. Link and Tetra are the ones searching for a new Hyrule, so they will be the one to name it. Link and Tetra would most likely name it New Hyrule was respect to the old Hyrule.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

But people know there was another Kasuto. They don't know there was at one point another Hyrule.
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Old 08-22-2009, 12:57 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Link and Tetra not only know about old Hyrule, but they saw it. They are also the two people looking for the new Hyrule.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:15 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Still why name it that if the majority of the population doesn't know the meaning of the name?
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:25 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Don't assume that. Spirit Tracks hasn't been released yet. Therefore, you can't say they don't. Knowing Zelda, the name 'New Hyrule' would be known to everyone and why: a legend. In this case, the population would probably be told about the old Hyrule, as Zelda it about old legends.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:27 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Also- old Hyrule was seen to become a little-known legend of the adult timeline. If having having decsendents, Tetra and Link would most likely tell their children about their adventure and the old Hyrule legend, as theu experienced it. Then it would carry on through generations as a story, like all legends do.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:29 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Whatever. Even if it is named New Hyrule i don't think it would have any drastic effect on the timeline.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:39 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Another excuse to fit your timeline, Oni. It will be the developers who make it be called New Hyrule, not just Hyrule alone. Should they do it- they're severing most of the games from the adult timeline with intention.

They want change, and therefore they are using the adult timeline to have Zelda games that do not have the tradition of the past games (Master Sword, ect..). The new world is the in-game explaination for the adult timeline games being different (steam trains, sea, steam boats, different swords, ect..). They're using the adult timeline to tell storyies different to the classic ones, basically. So, don't expect to see the older games to fit there, aside from the possibility of the first two SNES games.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:42 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Really what's the difference between New Hyrule and old Hyrule? The only reason they would be called that is to differentiate between them yet why would people have to do that when the old one is gone?
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:43 PM
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What will you do i the new world is called 'New Hyrule', has Lake Cukeman, Mt. Erimgard, Potent's Domain, and Pinecove Field? Instead of being called Hyrule, has Lake Hylia, Death Mountain, Zora's Domain, and Hyrule Field? It might have completely different landmarks- and a different name!
You might be right, but this thread is kinda pointless. I could just as well ask you: What will you do if the new land in ST is just called Hyrule, and the landmarks are called Lake Hylia, Death Mountain, Zora's Domain, and Hyrule Field?

I don't say you are wrong, but at this point, it is impossible to say.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:50 PM
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Re: Landmarks of the "New Hyrule"

Oni, if they don't even know the name of the country how do they know the sages' names/Hylian customs/specific landmark names?
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