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Old 08-18-2009, 04:18 PM
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Nittles' Super Amaxing Incredible Timeline of Doom from Texas!

Okay, First, my timeline:

------------------------WW/PH - (ST) - LoZ/Aol(/)OoX/LA
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MC - FS/FSA - OoT
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------------------------MM - TP - ALttP

Now, the reasoning:

Pre - Split

MC - Don't even try on this one. I know the arguments for and against it, and you're not going to change my mind.

FS/FSA - This placement is best explained in this thread. Argue there if you want.

OoT - Don't argue with this. Please.

Adult Timeline

WW/PH - The only thing I would like to note in this place is that I believe that the Master Sword is lost in the end of this game, so it cannot appear in the AT.

(ST) - This is where ST will go if it's not, like, obviously after AoL or something.

LoZ/AoL - This placement is fairly logical, and it comes after PH (With Maze island, like AoL)

OoX/LA - The slash in parentheses denotes that this may or may not be LoZ/AoL Link, and yes, I believe that LA follows OoX.

Child Timeline

MM - If you argue with this, I will cut off your fingers with a dull, rusty, plastic spoon.

TP - See my reasoning for MM.

ALttP - Now, with the MS in this game, and lost on the AT, and the Master Sword sleeps forever quote, and the degeneration of the ToT shown by TP and ALttP, this makes sense here.

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Old 08-18-2009, 04:25 PM
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Re: Nittles' Super Amaxing Incredible Timeline of Doom from Texas!

How do you explain the triforce from going AWOL at the end of WW, how it is at the start of LoZ. Also, how do you explain Ganons return both there and between TP and ALttP.

Also, would FS and FSA not work better between TP and ALttP?
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:30 PM
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FS/FSA - This placement is best explained in this thread. Argue there if you want.
How do you explain the ignorance of simple FSA-ALttP similarities in your timeline?
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:37 PM
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How do you explain the triforce from going AWOL at the end of WW, how it is at the start of LoZ.
Here there is a story gap, that hopefully ST will explain, but I'm not banking on that. I just assumed it got back to the royal family somehow.
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Also, how do you explain Ganons return both there and between TP and ALttP.
If you read the thread I linked to, it's explained there.

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Also, would FS and FSA not work better between TP and ALttP?
It works there, but it also works before OoT, as explained in the thread I linked to.

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How do you explain the ignorance of simple FSA-ALttP similarities in your timeline?
I'm going with, if it's not important to the story, it's not shown.
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:38 PM
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How do you explain the ignorance of simple FSA-ALttP similarities in your timeline?
That's on me I think. ^^'

Although, I'd say that story relevance outweights minor references and homages.
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Old 08-18-2009, 04:40 PM
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That's on me I think. ^^'

Although, I'd say that story relevance outweights minor references and homages.
Oh don't you get started.

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I'm going with, if it's not important to the story, it's not shown.
Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. Explain Geo and the castles.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:19 PM
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Sorry, but that doesn't cut it. Explain Geo and the castles.
As expected, I'm with Pinecove here- explain the geography and castles!

The castle in A Link to the Past is most certainly the same from from Four Swords Advetnures, but it can't be the same one through both Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess, so how does it suddenly reappear the way it was in the days of Four Swords Adventures?

No way it could be the same castle through all games- invasions, locations, and time are against it.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:27 PM
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Re: Nittles' Super Amaxing Incredible Timeline of Doom from Texas!

So, it's not the same castle. It's just similar art style, or if you want an in-universe explanation, the castle was built to look like the old one.
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No way it could be the same castle through all games- invasions, locations, and time are against it.
Please elaborate.
Castle in OoT CT - Fine, no invasion.
Castle in TP - Fine. A few minor damages but they got reparied right away didn't they? Also, nothing suggest there has been an invasion on the Castle before.
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Old 08-18-2009, 05:46 PM
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Nerushi, you're wrong there.

In your timeline, the castle is there with no town, then it has a town way south of it, then it is right behind the town, then it doesn't have a town. What the hell? Explain, my child.

I could accept the castle in Four Swords Advetnures and Ocarina of Time as the same, but not the one in Twilight Princess. That one is right behind the castle town, not way north of it. Ganondorf inavded Hyrule, as the Sages explain, and if you look into the game, he left absolute ruin everywhere. Another interting thing about the castle in Twilight Princess is that it is new, you can see building work in certain areas, and it's behind the town now.

In A Link to the Past, it suddenly goes back to how it was in Four Swords Advetnures, and the town has dissapeared off the map.

Each game comes CENTURIES apart. Judging by the way Japanese says things, Twilight Princess could be from 300 to 900 years after Ocarina of Time, and most certainly a long time after Four Swords Advetnures. Again- the castle wouldn't last that long and still look new, as well as the fact that there are wars between games.

After Ocarina of Time's child ending, Ganondorf inavded Hyrule. The scene shows flames raging across Hyrule, desturction, ect.. The creaotrs said he did something really bad, too. Look at the state of Hyrule in Twilight Princess- ruins everywhere, chasms, gorges, ravage, and signs that something big happened between Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess.

Throuhg the centuries of each game and the invasions, no way could all castles be the same one.
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:07 PM
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Well, this whole arguement is based on that FSA Castle = ALTTP Castle, which in my opinion is not neccesairly the case. Firstly FSA Castle, while it does have a few similarity to ALTTP is almost completely different from it. Much bigger. Only thing that resembles is the inside, which could very well be the devolpers being lazy. I remember that for inside areas the GBA screen where used which used same graphic as ALTTP.
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:10 PM
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So, what happens to Ganon between FSA and OoT?
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Old 08-18-2009, 06:39 PM
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So, what happens to Ganon between FSA and OoT?
What do you mean? FSA Ganon is sealed in Four Sword, and then OoT Ganon is born. They're both born from the Gerudo ( Hence their name ), but that doesn't mean they have to be the same person or reincarnations. It's not implied either.
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Four Swords Adetnures was designed to be the close preuel of A Link to the Past, not designed to be games apart from it. No, little Nerushi- it was designed to be THE true prequel of A Link to the Past, almost direct. It was set to be the close prequel and chronicle A Link to the Past's backstory.
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Old 08-18-2009, 07:04 PM
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Potent Col: Beats me. The only thing the devolpers ever said on FSS is that its the oldest tale.
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Key word there- it WAS made to be that.

Then there was the teatable
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Key word there- it WAS made to be that.

Then there was the teatable
Nooope. If anything FSA was made to be the IW ( Sages, MS, Forgotten Languages etc. ) then after the game was released Aonuma made that statement.
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Old 08-19-2009, 06:52 AM
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Well, thank you for defending my timeline overnight, Nerushi. Or at least, the FSS part of it. Any thoughts on the rest of it?
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Nerushi.

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Old 08-19-2009, 07:26 AM
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Well, thank you for defending my timeline overnight, Nerushi. Or at least, the FSS part of it. Any thoughts on the rest of it?
It's alright. I'd place Loz/Aol on the AT too, but that'll have to wait until after ST is released since for me, the New Hyrule is still just a mere theory.

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