AOL Town Names

Okay now as you all know we have seven towns in the second Zelda game. Five of then are named after sages in OOT(Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Nabooru, and Rauru). The other two are named Kasuto and Mido. When OOT was first made and there was a linear timeline these towns were supposedly named after the famous sages from the imprisoning war of legend.

However with the coming of the split timeline some have decided that this link no longer exists and AOL takes place on the CT. Some of these people also believe that these individuals were not famous for being sages but were famous for other things.

Fortunately this link can still be saved if we look at the most recent game in the Zelda series. I am of course referring to PH. In PH we see nine graves(six are for sages) on an island that looks very much like a flooded part of AOL's map(the northeast corner). It seems likely that these graves were the inspiration for the names of the towns. However we have Seven not nine towns. In addition two of them have names of characters that we never knew to be sages. I propose a very simple solution.

The six graves of the sages read: Rauru, Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Impa, and Nabooru. While the lack of a town named Impa seems to destroy this it could make sense if you recall the fact that both AOL and LOZ already have a character known as Impa. Therefore it could be that the name Impa was used again.
The other three graves could read: Zelda, Mido, and Kasuto. Now if this is indeed what they say then it stands to reason that Mido and Kasuto could also be used to name the towns of the new land that Link and Tetra find.

Questions? Comments? Concerns?

I agree with this. Just one question. How do we know what the graves say? Because all we read is directions.

That is a good point and i really can't say i'm just saying if they had to be sages we've seen logically they'd be the OOT sages.

Yeah they would be.

Originally Posted by Oni Dark Link

Okay now as you all know we have seven towns in the second Zelda game. Five of then are named after sages in OOT(Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Nabooru, and Rauru). The other two are named Kasuto and Mido. When OOT was first made and there was a linear timeline these towns were supposedly named after the famous sages from the imprisoning war of legend.

However with the coming of the split timeline some have decided that this link no longer exists and AOL takes place on the CT. Some of these people also believe that these individuals were not famous for being sages but were famous for other things.

Fortunately this link can still be saved if we look at the most recent game in the Zelda series. I am of course referring to PH. In PH we see nine graves(six are for sages) on an island that looks very much like a flooded part of AOL's map(the northeast corner). It seems likely that these graves were the inspiration for the names of the towns. However we have Seven not nine towns. In addition two of them have names of characters that we never knew to be sages. I propose a very simple solution.

The six graves of the sages read: Rauru, Saria, Darunia, Ruto, Impa, and Nabooru. While the lack of a town named Impa seems to destroy this it could make sense if you recall the fact that both AOL and LOZ already have a character known as Impa. Therefore it could be that the name Impa was used again.
The other three graves could read: Zelda, Mido, and Kasuto. Now if this is indeed what they say then it stands to reason that Mido and Kasuto could also be used to name the towns of the new land that Link and Tetra find.

Questions? Comments? Concerns?

Two problems. The graves only give us the directions to get through the phantom corridor, and even if they did have the names of the sages on them link wouldn't know the significance of them anyways since no one remembers the sages or their deeds.

All the "graves of the six sages" proves is that the memory/tradition of the "six sages" has survived in the Cobble Kingdom region - which works well enough for me to serve as a link to AoL's town names since the Cobble region in general seems to be the AoL northern area.

However, the graves themselves do not have any specific link to the names, aside from being related to the group of sages from OoT.

Interersting, the graves are found in the Phantom Hourglass overworld... which most of us are aware is part of the Adventure of Link's overworld.

Sages (OoT) = Sage Stained Glass Windows (tWW) = Sage Graves (PH) = Sage Towns (AoL)

There is the fact that Hylians not only name new landmarks after new ones, but they sometimes name people are other people, and they name locations after famous people. Therefore, it's an obvious connection, especially with how the adult timeline shows their fame and graves.

Tyras: That's only what we need to know we have no idea whether or not they say anything else. Logically them being gravestones the...i don't know the term, the people that buried them would put their names on the graves. In response to Link not knowing who they are weren't they called the graves of the sages?

Originally Posted by Oni Dark Link

Tyras: That's only what we need to know we have no idea whether or not they say anything else. Logically them being gravestones the...i don't know the term, the people that buried them would put their names on the graves. In response to Link not knowing who they are weren't they called the graves of the sages?

Even if they did bear the names of the sages, it is likely that link would not recognize the names. If it were anything like the stained glass in Hyrule Castle then he probably would, but not from just the names. i think it's more probable that Link and tetra rediscovered the sages from a different source.

this thread again? i still think both AT and CT placements are possible for the NES games

I do have one question, do the graves tell the story of the sages' importance? because Link
and Zelda never learn their significance in the WW

Things that exist on both sides of the split:
•The tradition of six/seven sages.
•The landscape. It does not change because of a flood, it just gets flooded. Therefore, any PH/AoL parallels only prove that they are the same place, not that they are connected chronologically.

The PH graves are only significant if there were specifically six and had the sages' names on them. Without at least one of these things, it can hardly be argued that their presence reinforces a PH-AoL sequence.

The tradition of six/seven sages is all through Hyrule history before the split... BUT! The Towns in The Advetnure of Link are named after the Sages who became famous on the adult timeline, as seen in The Wind Waker: their stained glass windows.

What do Hylians do? Name new locations after old ones, and they remember famous people (i.e. the Sages from Ocarina of Time), people after past people, and therefore nmaing towns after famous people (the Sage towns, named after the Sages who became famous on the adult timeline).

I think Aonuma recently stated that they Sages were named as so in Ocarina of Time to explain how towns would be named after them following the events of Ocarina of Time. The events of Ocarina of Time saw their names become famous, as The Wind Waker shows. Mido became pretty known in the adult timeline, too- a town is named after him in The Advetnure of Link.

can someone post text or screenshot from PH?

I can't judge much about the graves from rumors

Originally Posted by Potent Col

The tradition of six/seven sages is all through Hyrule history before the split... BUT! The Towns in The Advetnure of Link are named after the Sages who became famous on the adult timeline, as seen in The Wind Waker: their stained glass windows.

What do Hylians do? Name new locations after old ones, and they remember famous people (i.e. the Sages from Ocarina of Time), people after past people, and therefore nmaing towns after famous people (the Sage towns, named after the Sages who became famous on the adult timeline).

I think Aonuma recently stated that they Sages were named as so in Ocarina of Time to explain how towns would be named after them following the events of Ocarina of Time. The events of Ocarina of Time saw their names become famous, as The Wind Waker shows. Mido became pretty known in the adult timeline, too- a town is named after him in The Advetnure of Link.

yes, but if PH's graves were supposed to bridge that gap they would have made it much more evident. Names->no names->names does not validate the no names. As for Mido, she was originally the wind/forest sage in beta OoT before Saria. Now she's a very minor Kokiri in addition to a different person (proof that different people can have the same names, including sages) in WW.

Originally Posted by Slagr

As for Mido, she was originally the wind/forest sage in beta OoT before Saria. Now she's a very minor Kokiri

You're talking about FADO, not MIDO.

Are we all forgetting that in Wind Waker Link goes down to Hyrule Castle and sees the stained glass windows with all the Sages on them?

Regardless of PH, Link would have known about the Sages. PH just shows that the trend of six Sages was carried on in the Cobble Kingdom.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Are we all forgetting that in Wind Waker Link goes down to Hyrule Castle and sees the stained glass windows with all the Sages on them.

But WW Link never learns the sages' names from looking at those pictures,
and he never learns what they accomplished...and that shrine is flooded...

We don't know what he learns, but it shows a cutscene of him quite possibility look at all of them when Daphness has his speach. Oh! And Daphness also talks to Link about the events in Ocarina of Time... and the people involved.

Byt the way, this is the timeline where the Sages didn't become famous AT ALL vs. the timeline where they became famous and Link and Tetra was were about the events and saw the Sages on the stained glass windows as to explain the Sage town names.

Child timeline has absolutely no evidence or explaination for child timeline placment, other than it's shakey connections to A Link to the Past, which is connected to Twilight Princess.

Besides, where is the Master Sword in the SNES games? That's interesting- it was lost on the adult timeline! No Master Sword and Sage towns sounds damn suspcious to me.

Originally Posted by Cukeman

But WW Link never learns the sages' names from looking at those pictures,
and he never learns what they accomplished...and that shrine is flooded...

Meh, it's possible he did. It'd be easier to know if the directors actually put in text or something

But seeing as Aonuma reiterated just last year that AoL/OoT were designed to make the Towns named after the Sages, it's the best connection we have.

PH only shows a sage-honoring culture, WW shows the Seal War Sages.

Originally Posted by Col

Besides, where is the Master Sword in the SNES games? That's interesting- it was lost on the adult timeline! No Master Sword and Sage towns sounds damn suspcious to me.

Uh in the SNES game it's in the lost woods.

The tradition of six/seven sages is all through Hyrule history before the split...

The ANCIENT sages. As you'll recall the ToT in TP...however on the AT that doesn't seem to be so, because as you'll note the only ancient sage left is Rauru...

But WW Link never learns the sages' names from looking at those pictures,

There are names in Hylian under them...