Thoughts of Ikana Castle

I want to know what you think of the ancient castle of ikana

like how thay were involved with majora's mask for example

just tell me anything youo have theorized about it

Well, there is one totally random tidbit of information that was mildly interesting; A block from Stone Tower found it's way into Ikana Castle roof somehow. Additionally, some of the patterns within Clock Tower appear similar to that of the wall and floor patterns in Ikana Castle.





No theories, though.

Ikana's a intresting place, Mystery, Ghosts, Lost Kingdoms, But relation wise to the mask, The Composers Ghost didn't seem to recognise the Mask at all and nor the King, So I wouldn't say theres any real relation between the Kingdom and the Mask as the tribe that created it was destoryed in the translation whereas the Kingdom was defeated by the Garo in a M.A.D situation.

Alot of Patterns and blocks in Ikana appear in the stone tower, so they share very similar arectecture which isnt surprising as there both in the former city.

Though they refer to the ghosts and home of the Ikana Royal Family Why would they address it as such if there was only one member in it, as theres no point in refering to a collective of one, So there must be other members of the family not seen in game.

Originally Posted by Celvantis

Ikana's a intresting place, Mystery, Ghosts, Lost Kingdoms, But relation wise to the mask, The Composers Ghost didn't seem to recognise the Mask at all.

That is not true. The following is a quote from the Composer Sharp, upon cleansing him with the Song of Storms.

We dead should not be lingering here in this land. It was all a trick of the masked one who had upset things.

Furthermore, Stone Tower appears to have a depiction of Majora's Mask within it, and I will provide a screenshot within the next ten minutes. However, this is debateable, as we will see.

The way he refers to the Imp and him masked morethen that Majora mask as someone aware of it would call it seems to me that they themselves didn't seem very aware of the mask although on the other hand there is a image of majora in the stone temple, weather this was made by previous generations of the kingdom who lost the infomation, added by the mask, or what will forever be a mystery.

^I'm looking at my last post, and I was a bit blunt. Sorry about that. Anyway, here is the image being described. The reason it has a red symbol drawn upon it is because this symbol can be seen elsewhere in Stone Tower, however upon the 'mask' it has been cut in half - presumably to indicate that a piece fell off? Nevertheless, here we go:

Somebody had an interesting theory on this forum that the Stone Tower Temple was intended to insult the golden goddesses of Hyrule, as there are Triforce symbols all over the dungeon and 4 very phallic structures pointing up at the sky, as well as a large hand with a finger pointing up in the sky, possibly being a message to the goddesses that the people of Termina worship the four giants and refuse to worship the goddesses or the triforce.

If your interested in theories about Ikana and Stone Tower Temple, then I'd suggest you go and read Hylian Dan's Theory about it, its very interesting.

http://www.zeldauniverse.net/forums/...as-doomed.html

^Yes, and the above image was taken from that thread - Thanks Hylian Dan. Well, I imagine that this isnt the place to discuss that theory, although I am interested in regard to Ikana Castle and the Kingdom. Interestingly, Igos Du Ikana describes Stone Tower in a fashion that implies he knows little of it. Sharp claims this, which is a strange quote:

I, the only one who knows the way into the temple, shall direct you to the King.

It seems to imply that the people of Ikana were perhaps unrelated to the origins of the Tower? My current opinion is that it probably predated the impression of Ikana Kingdom we are given. Although, there is the block found in Ikana Castle. Interestingly the construction of Stone Tower seems far more complex and refined than anything else in Termina, perhaps besides Great Bay Temple.

My reckoning is that the Ikana are the parallel of the Sheikah. Both are unseen having dies in a previous Great War and Sharp is said to be of both in respective games.

Originally Posted by Link92

Somebody had an interesting theory on this forum that the Stone Tower Temple was intended to insult the golden goddesses of Hyrule, as there are Triforce symbols all over the dungeon and 4 very phallic structures pointing up at the sky, as well as a large hand with a finger pointing up in the sky, possibly being a message to the goddesses that the people of Termina worship the four giants and refuse to worship the goddesses or the triforce.

i remember reading that
that was interesting, but it was the stone tower, not ikana castle

Originally Posted by River Zora

My reckoning is that the Ikana are the parallel of the Sheikah. Both are unseen having dies in a previous Great War and Sharp is said to be of both in respective games.

interesting
i never thought of it that way

Ikana Canyon as a whole represents the area of lost souls. Before even allowed to enter the area you must first possess the mask that can see the "spirits" that are lost.; or so thats what your told by the creep man who turns into a tree, mysterious right. When you enter, the whole place is a barren wasteland with wandering souls. Gibdo's are attacking the house and theres no life. When you enter the cave one of the Composer Brothers attacks you and is angry because of how long he has been lost. When you enter Ikana Castle and face the King he tells you the story of how the mingdom has been lost in darkness , all caused by "masked one". Once completed you enter Stone Tower, a barren temple with no life. Ikana Castle, Stone Tower, and Ikana Canyon represnt the loss of Majora's Mask. The sense of loss and in ability to let go is ever present through out this portion of the game. Thats how I feel Ikana Kingdom is connected.

Originally Posted by LostSkullKid

Ikana Canyon as a whole represents the area of lost souls. Before even allowed to enter the area you must first possess the mask that can see the "spirits" that are lost.; or so thats what your told by the creep man who turns into a tree, mysterious right. When you enter, the whole place is a barren wasteland with wandering souls. Gibdo's are attacking the house and theres no life. When you enter the cave one of the Composer Brothers attacks you and is angry because of how long he has been lost. When you enter Ikana Castle and face the King he tells you the story of how the mingdom has been lost in darkness , all caused by "masked one". Once completed you enter Stone Tower, a barren temple with no life. Ikana Castle, Stone Tower, and Ikana Canyon represnt the loss of Majora's Mask. The sense of loss and in ability to let go is ever present through out this portion of the game. Thats how I feel Ikana Kingdom is connected.

thank you for the thourough (thin i spelled it wrong) explanation

I believe that the people of Termina lost their faith in the Goddesses when they discovered technology (see the ceiling fans in the Milk Bar) and realized that they had never actually seen them before. They then turned their faith to the Four Giants who they knew existed.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

I believe that the people of Termina lost their faith in the Goddesses when they discovered technology (see the ceiling fans in the Milk Bar) and realized that they had never actually seen them before. They then turned their faith to the Four Giants who they knew existed.

wow great theory=D

^Perhaps that is true, but I don't think that events occured in that fashion. As Igos Du Ikana and Sharp appear to have little knowledge of Stone Tower, it is likely safe to regard it as a structure that predated Ikana as an organised Kingdom. In the story of the 'Four Giants', as told by Anju's Grandmother, it is implied that worship of the Giants occured after Skull Kid felt betrayed - but there is no mention of the Goddesses, and only a passing word about the 'Imp' returning to the 'heavens'.

This tale's from long ago when all the people weren't separated into four worlds like they are now. In those times all the people lived together, and the four giants lived among them. On the day of the festival that celebrates the harvest, the giants spoke to the people... "We have chosen to guard the people while we sleep..." "100 steps north, 100 steps south, 100 steps east, 100 steps west." "If you have need, call us in a loud voice by declaring something such as, 'The mountain blizzard has trapped us.'" "Or 'The ocean is about to swallow us.' Your cries shall carry to us..."

Now then...There was one who was shocked and saddened by all this. A little imp. The imp was a friend of the giants since before they had created the four worlds. "Why must you leave?" "Why do you not stay?" The childhood friend felt neglected, so he spread his anger across the four worlds. Repeatedly, he wronged all people. Overwhelmed with misfortune, the people sang the song of prayer to the giants who lived in each of the four compass directions. The giants heard their cry and responded with a roar. "Oh, imp. Oh, imp. We are the protectors of the people." "You have caused the people pain. Oh, imp, leave these four worlds! Otherwise, we shall tear you apart!" The imp was frightened and saddened. He had lost his old friends. The imp returned to the heavens, and harmony was restored to the four worlds.

And the people rejoiced and they worshiped the giants of the four worlds like gods. And they lived happily...ever after...

This quote shows that the four worlds existed (ocean, mountain ect) before the Giants decided to protect the people. Also, note that the people celebrate the harvest, but there is no mention of any other worship before that of the Giants.

However, the history of the Giants in Termina no doubt runs deeper, and some believe that the Giant face in Stone Tower is a representation. What this story does clarify however is that the Goddesses have been forgotten or ignored in Termina for a long time.

^ Yes and I still find it strange that Termina has quite a lot of technology.

Originally Posted by Hyperactivity

Well, there is one totally random tidbit of information that was mildly interesting; A block from Stone Tower found it's way into Ikana Castle roof somehow. Additionally, some of the patterns within Clock Tower appear similar to that of the wall and floor patterns in Ikana Castle.





No theories, though.

The more I look at those pics the more I think they represent the boss of stonetower. The 3 dots are the eyes and there are two heads for the two parts of the boss.

I don't think it looks like Twinmold, but I honestly agree with the 'two heads' idea. If they are indeed faces, there is another texture, within the deku playground in Clock Town, that represents the first face slightly.