The Gerudo and the Twili. Any connection?

Originally Posted by The Death Sword

After the Sages sealed Ganondorf, they tried to seal the Dark Interlopers as well. By killing the original Twili, the Dark Interlopers lost their power, so they were sealed in the Twilight Realm. Then, suddenly, Ganondorf appeared and gave them their powers back. He then disappeared as a ball of twilight in hiding. Then Midna came along, as one of the descendents of the banished ones.

The Interlopers were banished before Ganondorf. That's why, as Zelda says, the godesses left the Mirror of Twilight in Hyrule. The godesses left it there so the Twili could meet Link and Zelda, so the creation of the Twilight mirror and the banishment of the Twili must have happened in close proximity of time. Ganondorf was banished after the Interlopers had already been imprisoned.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess we don't really know what race the interlopers were, and even if they were the first to be sent to the twilight?
If the interlopers were Gerudo, then they would have kept their symbolism with them, and after years of mixing with other criminals sent to the twilight, they ended up become one race, called the Twili??, who had no fault whatsoever to be imprisoned (since their ancestors were criminals, not them)
Or if at any point a gerudo was sent to the twilight, became ruler, and imposed such symbol.

My personal belief goes towards they symbols just being there b/c ganondorf is in power, and the symbok before the cutscene was just something Nintendo didn't think about.

Originally Posted by 3heartchallenge

If the interlopers were Gerudo, then they would have kept their symbolism with them, and after years of mixing with other criminals sent to the twilight, they ended up become one race, called the Twili??, who had no fault whatsoever to be imprisoned (since their ancestors were criminals, not them)
Or if at any point a gerudo was sent to the twilight, became ruler, and imposed such symbol.

During the final battle in TP, Ganondorf makes it pretty obvious that he is trying to differentiate himself from the Twili, who he said had "long amused him" and were "pathetic." If the Twili were Gerudo, he wouldn't talk about them like that.

^Exactly. To further convey this, her refers to the Twili as Midna's people, diretly before referencing their defiance of the Gods - something that obviously occured long ago. Ganondorf was clearly distanced from them.

The old emblem symbol thing was a crescent and a star, but they changed it to what it is now because it offended muslims.

Originally Posted by xoɹǝpnpɐpןǝz

The old emblem symbol thing was a crescent and a star, but they changed it to what it is now because it offended muslims.

You revived a month-old thread for a statement that isn't even relevant?

Originally Posted by Tulcaryar

It's also found in MM in the Pirates Fortress. Maybe some Gerudo escaped to Termina?

On topic, though, I like to think the Twili were a mix of Gerudo and Sheikah rebels, but all we can do right now is speculate.

I always thought about:

Zuna -> DI + Sheikah (Bred in with Gerudo ) = Twili

Originally Posted by Twilit_Hylian

I always thought about:

Zuna -> DI + Sheikah (Bred in with Gerudo ) = Twili

I also believe this. The Gerudo symbol and Shiekah eye existing in Twili culture seems to be strongly supported by this. TP's text says the Interlopers appeared "among those living in the light," meaning they were light dwellers, aka Hyruleans.

Actually the Japanese translation for the interlopers is

人々の中に、魔術に長けた者達が現れ
In the midst of the people, persons who excelled at magic appeared.

Persons. They can be anyone. I doubt they were Zoras though as we see they have a long time relation with the royal family.

Shiekah + Gerudo + Zuna + Hylians + actuall shadows = Interlopers.

I don't think the twili has gerudo ancestry, because isnt the majority of the gerudos female.
without any male the race would die out

I personally think that the Twili are Zuna, and that their bodies didn't really change
much over the years, other than their sensitivity to light.

I don't think the twili has gerudo ancestry, because isnt the majority of the gerudos female.
without any male the race would die out

Not if they had other males.

I personally think that the Twili are Zuna, and that their bodies didn't really change
much over the years, other than their sensitivity to light.

SUBROSIANS = INTERLOPERS.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

SUBROSIANS = INTERLOPERS.

lol we don't know what subrosians look like.

The Zant and Twili both have blue-green skin, and although we don't know
if the Zuna have red hair or not, the Twili's red hair seems to help
place them in the desert near the red-haired Gerudo (the Zuna live
in the desert)

But subrosians can't live in the sun.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

But subrosians can't live in the sun.

But they aren't sealed in the Twilight Realm.

Actually, you follow one subrosian through the forest in Holodrum so...

He wears a cloak...

I just thought the subrosians evolved from a monster from one of the earlier 3D games.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

He wears a cloak...

(she)

Leading one to the conclusion that they can live in the sun while cloaked...

They wear cloaks underground too, so the purpose of the cloaks is very
unlikely to be sun-related (they don't remove the cloaks when they go underground)

But FPTRRl confirmes that they wear cloaks because the sun will make them turn to dust if they get hit by the it.

At any rate, I'm not saying I believe it, but simply that ot's an interesting observation.

the creatures in FPTRRI is not subrosians, they are calles salona.
the salona is descendants of a band of brave men, a demon placed a curse on the men and their future descendants.