Child Link and the ToC (OOT ending)

I was thinking about how it shows child Link at the end of OOT with
a glowing ToC on his hand. Then I thought, if Link does have the ToC,
then wouldn't Ganon and Zelda already have the other two Triforce pieces?

Then I thought about the times the Triforce parts glow (or resonate) on
people's hands and why. WW Link's resonates when he first recieves it,
and also when he is close to Ganondorf's ToP. In OOT before Link
fights Ganon, the Triforce parts resonate when Link, Ganon and Zelda
are in the same room (close proximity).

So I was wondering why Link's ToC was glowing...maybe it is because he
is close to Zelda, and she has the ToW? I would then wonder if Zelda
was still spying on Ganondorf, and if his ToP would glow.

I have wondered what made TP Link's ToC glow when he first became
a wolf, maybe that was when he first recieved it? It seems TP Ganon's
ToP glowed as soon as he recieved it, or else as soon as he realized he had it.
On the other hand, maybe TP Link's ToC was glowing because on assuming
beast form, he was 'recognized' as a prophesized hero?

What are your thoughts on the glowing Triforce parts?

Well, in OoT ending, link's ToC doesn't glow. It's just there. In TP he has the mark on his hand since the beginning of the game, again, just there. In TP his ToC glows when he first becomes a wolf because it " activates" . If it weren't for the ToC he would become a spirit or even a monster.

As for Ganondorf after OoT; I don't think he receives his ToP until the execution scene in TP.

I don't think Ganondorf realises that he has it, but I think he still does.

I think the Oracle games were the first to show the Triforce piece just there on Link's hand, regardless of it's proximity to another piece, or whether it was being used. But yeah, the pieces usually glow when they're being used, but it's hardly an exact science.

Remember that OoX Link had the mark on his hand despite not holding any part of the triforce (seemed to be a calling from the gods) and AoL Link had the third piece light up on his hand before receiving it to say he was destined to.

Originally Posted by River Zora

Remember that OoX Link had the mark on his hand despite not holding any part of the triforce (seemed to be a calling from the gods) and AoL Link had the third piece light up on his hand before receiving it to say he was destined to.

Actually the whole crest appeared on his hand all of a sudden, i don't
think it says that the ToC part glowed,

P.S. and I just re-watched the OOT ending the ToC part
DOES glow on Link's hand (& the other parts are darker)

I personally thought it was pretty clear that Link having the Triforce of Courage meant that Ganon had touched the Triforce and that Link had to intervene by informing Zelda before Ganondorf managed to get out of the now-sealed Door of Time and destroy Hyrule like he did on the Adult Timeline.

Originally Posted by River Zora

Remember that OoX Link had the mark on his hand despite not holding any part of the triforce (seemed to be a calling from the gods) and AoL Link had the third piece light up on his hand before receiving it to say he was destined to.

AoL = Mark appears on one worthy of the Triforce thanks to a spell by the last owner of the ToC
OoX = Mark appears on the hero who has the Triforce's guidance

OoT = Mark appears by the one chosen by destiny to receive the Triforce part when an unworthy one touches it
TWW/TP = Mark appears on hand of owner of Triforce parts/chosen ones

That can't quite be the case Artem... I looked at it first and thought 'of course!' but then I thought that if he was sent back to after Ganon had the Triforce it would also be after Zelda and Impa had been chased out by Ganon, also after he had the Ocarina of time and really if it was sent to that time there would be no reason as to why Link shouldn't grab the Master Sword and fight Ganon himself as he did in the AT. You really think Ganon hang around after grabbing the Triforce to attack? Time enough for Link and Zelda to warn the King and him to put up a defense? Especially considering, as I said, by that time Zelda herself would have been taken away from the castle and Ganon's army already attacked the town.

ganon seperated the triforce in the AT, so link got the ToC. he still hhad it when he went back 2 being a kid. his ToC replaced the one in the Sacred Realm, causing the Top and ToW to go to zelda and ganon.

Originally Posted by Darkus Triforce

he still hhad it when he went back 2 being a kid.

Really? 'cause I didn't see it when he got back to the Temple of Time in the past; I only saw it in the scene where he decided to approach Zelda.

Originally Posted by River Zora

I looked at it first and thought 'of course!' but then I thought that if he was sent back to after Ganon had the Triforce it would also be after Zelda and Impa had been chased out by Ganon, also after he had the Ocarina of time and really if it was sent to that time there would be no reason as to why Link shouldn't grab the Master Sword and fight Ganon himself as he did in the AT. You really think Ganon hang around after grabbing the Triforce to attack? Time enough for Link and Zelda to warn the King and him to put up a defense? Especially considering, as I said, by that time Zelda herself would have been taken away from the castle and Ganon's army already attacked the town.

1) If Link pulled the Master Sword, he would be sealed away for seven years and going back in time would have accomplished nothing.

2) Why do you think Zelda sent Link back in time to close the Door of Time? Surely Ganondorf couldn't get into the Sacred Realm without removing the Master Sword, so what use is there in closing it? I would say she intended for him to seal Ganondorf inside the Sacred Realm through this action before the conquest of Hyrule ever took place. From there it would be easy for the Sages (or whoever - possibly Link himself after reliving his seven lost years) to find an opportunity ambush him, since he would be trapped in an enclosed space.

I still don't understand why Zelda is in the castle if it's after Ganon has the Triforce, she should be on the lam with Impa.

I think he's sent back to before he even opened the door, only reason for Zelda still to be there. he's not even wearing his goron bracelet when he's sent back implying it's pre-child temples.

Not to mention that Zelda reacts as if she's seeing Link for the first time when he meets her in the courtyard.

Link is sent in time BEFORE her pull the MS. In master quest the developers remove his goron bracelet in the ending scene. This shows us that he was returned before he obtained the spiritual stone of power. The only inconsistency is the open Door of Time and the fact that Zelda tells Link she will send him back to close it.

If Zelda can send him back in time, in all likelihood she can send him through space as well. Link was transported from the MS chamber to the chamber of sages; so we know it can happen. She is also the sage of time and to say she cold open the Door of Time does not seem like a stretch to me.

For her to have sent him back to any point after Ganondorf attacked Hyrule is rather ridiculous; if Zelda could prevent to death of the guards, she would. The placement that makes the most sense is after you get the Sapphire because you'll have still saved Gorons and Jabu-Jabu but noting bad had yet happened. That would put Link in the Market a short time before Ganondorf attacked and in a perfect position to warn the princess.

send him back to close it.

I don't think she meant that literally.

Not to mention that Zelda reacts as if she's seeing Link for the first time when he meets her in the courtyard.

People keep saying that, but I don't see it. She just turns around; that's it.

I don't think she meant that literally.

I think she does. Otherwise it would be a sucky metaphor.

It means 'I am sending you back so that the door might be closed' to me, Link isn't technically closing it, but by sending him back she is making sure it remains so.

I'm aware of that. What I really don't understand is why is the door open. He was clearly sent back before he opened it as he doesn't have the goron bracelet and Zelda is still there. Makes no sense.

Maybe because the ToT is like the rift for time travel and everything, and she has to for magic's sake, and as soon as Link leaves it'll shut again until whenever.

Either that or Ninty didn't think it through... But such a suggestion is poppycock!

When Zelda is referring to Link about laying the MS down to close the Door of Time, it is clear she is suggesting to Link to do this in the Adult Timeline since everyone knows that Link can't carry the MS as a child. It is then that Zelda tells Link that the gateway between times will be closed and that he can't return to being a child again. Then Zelda suggests to Link that she can restore his childhood with the ocarina. So its clear that she was previously telling Link to lay the MS sword down in the Adult Timeline and NOT the Child Timeline.

Originally Posted by Ganonslayer2000

When Zelda is referring to Link about laying the MS down to close the Door of Time, it is clear she is suggesting to Link to do this in the Adult Timeline since everyone knows that Link can't carry the MS as a child. It is then that Zelda tells Link that the gateway between times will be closed and that he can't return to being a child again. Then Zelda suggests to Link that she can restore his childhood with the ocarina. So its clear that she was previously telling Link to lay the MS sword down in the Adult Timeline and NOT the Child Timeline.

That makes absolutely no sense. She literally sends him back after saying those words. Link no longer exists in the AT.

Closing the Door = Not being able to return to the future ever again