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Old 07-09-2009, 09:00 PM
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TL Theorizing questions.

Alright, so I'm in the process of figuring out my TL ( the one in my sig is just what I have so far) and I have Two questions about games that I have yet to complete:

Does Ganon Die in OoX?
Is the Dark Mirror destroyed in FSA?

Your Prompt response will be appreciated.
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Old 07-09-2009, 09:06 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

1: Interpretation- His body (Twinrova) definitely is, but (arguably) no Master Sword and (definitely) no silver arrows used so his spirit may still be wandering the aether searching for a host. (I believe he then finds one in Agahnim)

2: No, it's fine after FSA. If anything it's all shiny and new again.
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Old 07-10-2009, 08:52 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

ganon dies in OoX, even without a master sword(even though you can use it) or silver arrows.

River Zora how could he do that then carry out all that happened in alttp if he was only resurected as a mindless beast due to the sacrifice of twinovra instead of zelda.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:13 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

Thanks to Agahnim. If Link hadn't been there to defeat Ganon in OoX and Twinrova had sacrificed themselves regardless I still think Ganon would have eventually come to his senses.

This is hinted in that at the start he just says destroy, destroy, yet at the end he formulates a complete sentence just before his defeat and even is able to state his identity- 'I am Ganon... King of Darkness?' Showing that although he was revived half baked thanks to the rushed ceremony and impure vessel that he was slowly returning to his old self, just not as effectively as had hoped.

With Agahnim as a vessel to do his bidding while he gained strength in the dark world gives a good reason why Ganon is forced into such elusivity and the whole bunshin alter-ego-y ness.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:20 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

i'm not convinced that the silver arrows destroy ganon's soul

seems to me that (based on certain assumptions we don't need to
repeat here) that LoZ and ALTTP may be on the same timeline

rather than destroying his soul, i think silver arrows can cleave
apart the Triforce from Ganon (and destroy his body)
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:27 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

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i'm not convinced that the silver arrows destroy ganon's soul

seems to me that (based on certain assumptions we don't need to
repeat here) that LoZ and ALTTP may be on the same timeline

rather than destroying his soul, i think silver arrows can cleave
apart the Triforce from Ganon (and destroy his body)
In LttP, Ganon did not have the Triforce within him, it was complete and simply sitting in the Dark World after he wished on it. So the Silver Arrows must have been effective against him even though he did not have the Triforce with him/within him.
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:34 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

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In LttP, Ganon did not have the Triforce within him, it was complete and simply sitting in the Dark World after he wished on it. So the Silver Arrows must have been effective against him even though he did not have the Triforce with him/within him.
How do you know he didn't "drop" it like in LoZ
(and that it "landed" in the adjacent room)

no, I think Ganon had the Triforce within him as it was
'looking for a new master'

You could interpret that differently of course...
on the other hand if Ganon didn't have it 'within' him
anyone could've wished on it without being stopped

EDIT: If it needs a new master it is still under Ganon's control,
not waiting in the Dark World indifferently
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Old 07-10-2009, 09:37 PM
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

There is nothing that suggests Ganon had the Triforce within him. He managed to combine the three pieces and obtain the True Force by wishing on the Triforce, and then he left it in the DW Pyramid while he planned on returning to the Light world.
Saying that he dropped the Triforce is a baseless assumption.
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

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There is nothing that suggests Ganon had the Triforce within him. He managed to combine the three pieces and obtain the True Force by wishing on the Triforce, and then he left it in the DW Pyramid while he planned on returning to the Light world.
Saying that he dropped the Triforce is a baseless assumption.
yeah, but why then was it still under his control?
(instead of sitting indifferently in the dark world?)
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

It was sitting uselessly in the Dark World. It wasn't under Ganon's control at all, he simply wished on it prior to LttP occurring (which resulted in the Sacred Realm becoming corrupted) and then it sat in the DW until Link defeated Ganon and made his own wish.
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Re: TL Theorizing questions.

I'll look into this, but I'm pretty sure there are implications that the
Triforce can't be used until Ganon is destroyed

EDIT: ONLY IN ALTTP

(it may not be within him, but I think it's under his control)
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