OoS/OoA: Possible Clue as to their Order?

This is probably more fanfic than anything but,
Has anyone ever noticed how in OoS, when Link is teleported to Holodrum, he is knocked unconcious(I don't know if I spelled that right) but in OoA, when he is teleported to Labrynna, he is perfectly fine.
My theory states that OoS in fact takes place BEFORE OoA. My explanation is as follows:
When he is teleported to Holodrum, Link was simply not yet strong enough to teleport without passing out. But during his adventure in Holodrum, Link had to gain a good deal of extra strength. So when it came time to teleport Link to Labrynna, he was much stronger and therefore could easily withstand the teleportation process.
Again, probably just fanfic.

Well, I don't know about the being unconscious thing, but there is some subtle evidence that suggests the canonical progression is OoS - OoA. To be honest, I can't recall any of it right now (it's been a long time since I've done serious theorizing, you must understand), but I definitely remember that there was some evidence suggesting this progression. For the most part, it doesn't really matter too much, though there are some theories I've seen that's relied on the order of the games. If memory serves, I even had one such theory, but alas, it has been too long a time to properly remember.

I don't think there is a canonical order. what you see and hear will change depending on which game you play first, but no matter what order you play the games in you still have the same outcome of a dead twinrova and a resurrected ganon who may or may not be dead after the final battle.

I think the most telling thing is that in the OoS manual, it talks about Link going to Hyrule Castle, but in the OoA one it doesn't. ;D

There is no canonical order. You can put either of them first or last and you wouldn't be wrong. Most theorists prefer to put OoS first, as that is what happens in the manga (and maybe a few other details), but you could put OoA first in a timeline and it absolutely wouldn't matter. Both are correct.

Artemicion:
I think the most telling thing is that in the OoS manual, it talks about Link going to Hyrule Castle, but in the OoA one it doesn't. ;D

So, is that an agree or a disagree?

my gut instinct is to say it doesn't belong in the storyline, but since its incredibly easy to fit in the storyline, I'll let OoX stay.

I think the most awesome way to place OoX (and the only reason I'm placing it) is that each one of the games happens on a different timeline. Both the games start the exact same way (except one is blue and the other is red, note CT Links' shields are blue and AT Links' shields are red) with Link on horse looking down on hyrule castle, and both Link's go and see the triforce, except the triforce sends each Link on a different journey.

And then the ending of the game, where Link stops Ganon from being ressurected and saves Zelda, could be shared by both timelines

Originally Posted by rageagainst

I think the most awesome way to place OoX (and the only reason I'm placing it) is that each one of the games happens on a different timeline. Both the games start the exact same way (except one is blue and the other is red, note CT Links' shields are blue and AT Links' shields are red) with Link on horse looking down on hyrule castle, and both Link's go and see the triforce, except the triforce sends each Link on a different journey.

And then the ending of the game, where Link stops Ganon from being ressurected and saves Zelda, could be shared by both timelines

Wait

1) Only the first game you play starts with Link going to Hyrule Castle to see the Triforce; the linked game just starts you out in whatever land it is set in

2) The fact that there is a linked game (and that the "Ganon" ending is part of it!) indicates to me that both Oracles games take place in sequence, on the same timeline!

3) The split timeline wasn't even developed when OoX was made!

Originally Posted by Artemicion

1) Only the first game you play starts with Link going to Hyrule Castle to see the Triforce; the linked game just starts you out in whatever land it is set in.

No. No matter whether the game is linked or not we see the same scene of Link in a black space while the Triforce speaks to him, we can infer from this that the scenario of Link facing the Triforce happens on the outset of both games.
Just wanted to set things straight.
BTW I like to think the order is Ages to Seasons, if only for character development on the part of Ambi. Also if she's inspired to 'sink' her castle from her trip it explains why it up and vanishes in the Ages present.

I agree that they MUST be on the same timeline, but I don't think 'the split timeline wan't even developed' yet is a good argument cause it was post OoT and I think they had the split in mind already to explain the old games.

There are some plot lines that seem to be 'completed' one way round, and others the other, I think it's entirely open to the player.

The official site puts Seasons first and historically the first game in an arc has a Red logo and later ones change, but I prefer OoA first because I prefer it, it means you can have the hyper slingshot to make Twinrova easier and I like the alphabetic-ness of A before S.

But I think S just about makes more sense with publicity media and stuff.

I've heard the argument that Seasons comes first because the Pirates visit Queen Ambi after OOS ends...I don't put much confidence in it though

Originally Posted by Artemicion

Wait

1) Only the first game you play starts with Link going to Hyrule Castle to see the Triforce; the linked game just starts you out in whatever land it is set in

2) The fact that there is a linked game (and that the "Ganon" ending is part of it!) indicates to me that both Oracles games take place in sequence, on the same timeline!

3) The split timeline wasn't even developed when OoX was made!

Oh it just fit really nicely and was cool and that's why I thought they were on split timelines, though don't say just cuz the split timeline wasn't there when OoX was there doesn't make it part of it, the timeline changes.

For example when OoT cames out, there was a pretty definitive OoT-ALttP connection, but after TP, ALttP being connected to ANY game made no sense, so I thought it was just retconned by TP, and replaced.

But then we came across stuff in FSA that talks about a ganon with a trident, that has the same name as the ganon in ALttP, and his origin. We also see the ganon with the same name ressurected in OoX, and he also has a trident. This means there's apparantly 2 ganons, and FSA is now the prequel to ALttP, not OoT

i think they take place at the same time, in opposite timelines.

Sorry Darkus, they have to happen on the same one. One could argue they both happen on both, but they have an internal arc story which affects it, ie: characters you meet in one recognise you from the last game in the next one and there is a final boss that is affected by the bosses in both the games.

They both have to be on the same timeline.

errmmm... well, i don't know. i never got a chance to play those games.