Faron Woods = Kokiri Forest?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

That's faulty logic. Who says that they can't talk just because they don't?

They can't, they talk to link just when link is in his wolf form, like other normal animals does.


monkeys =/= kokiris

GAME OVER

Originally Posted by smallville boy

They can't, they talk to link just when link is in his wolf form, like other normal animals does.


monkeys =/= kokiris

GAME OVER

Its no stranger then them turning into small shrubs with leaves for masks that make tinkling sounds when they walk and can make leaf parasols to fly about on.

The Kokiri are nature spirits, and probably changed themselves into monkeys and fled after the ugly denizens of Ordon descended on their homeland. I mean would you want to meet half the villagers on a dark night? I thought not.

Originally Posted by Feline Witch

Its no stranger then them turning into small shrubs with leaves for masks that make tinkling sounds when they walk and can make leaf parasols to fly about on.

The Kokiri are nature spirits, and probably changed themselves into monkeys and fled after the ugly denizens of Ordon descended on their homeland. I mean would you want to meet half the villagers on a dark night? I thought not.

Monkeys are usually consdered as high forms of nature(because of their intelligence), so it is possible for the kokiris to flee if hylians came and set up their own country town, the kokiri would adapt to this change and alter their form.

I agree with the gentlemen and lady.
*Hats off*......

Now then SVB, if you talk to them as a wolf, then how does that work into your weird logic of them not being Kokiri?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Now then SVB, if you talk to them as a wolf, then how does that work into your weird logic of them not being Kokiri?

Link as a wolf can talk with ALL the animals.
Link as human can't talk with normal animals, like those monkeys for example.
Those monkeys are just normal monkeys, nothing else.
I can said that the cats are kokiris or that the flowers or birds are kokiris, sounds stupid? YES, stupid like the monkeys being kokiris.
Wait a minute! epona maybe is a kokiri, when link is a wolf he can talk with epona. LOL


For the record, the kokiris became the koroks just because the flood, the kokiris and the koroks are little children of the woods, the monkeys from TP grow up, you can see that the leader is a adult monkey,they can't be the kokiris, they aren't forest spirits.

DEKU TREE:
Koroks! Little children of the woods!
This traveler is not your enemy. Let your
hearts be at ease, and show yourselves!

What do you call yourself?

Link?

Well, then, Link...
These are the Koroks--the spirits of
the forest.

Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks
took on human forms, but when they came
to live on the sea, they took these shapes.

GAME OVER

Originally Posted by Koulatio

The Korkiri were driven out when Link's tribe moved in. Probably way before TP link was born, so they went into hiding deep in the forest. That's how i explain it to myself. Can't bare the though of them dying!

maybe skull kid came back and turned them into those puppet things

and also wat u mean Links tribe to me you sound crazy unless you mean the ordonians

The leader is not a grown-up monkey, he is a monkey from a different species...

Originally Posted by Aeralfos

Monkeys are usually consdered as high forms of nature(because of their intelligence), so it is possible for the kokiris to flee if hylians came and set up their own country town, the kokiri would adapt to this change and alter their form.

Better to become a monkey then share space with that demonic Kewpie doll , Mallo.

I can said that the cats are kokiris or that the flowers or birds are kokiris, sounds stupid? YES, stupid like the monkeys being kokiris.
Wait a minute! epona maybe is a kokiri, when link is a wolf he can talk with epona. LOL

No because cats and hourses are in OoT. Monkeys aren't.

Originally Posted by Smertios

The leader is not a grown-up monkey, he is a monkey from a different species...

All the monkeys are kokiris but theire leader isn't? LOL


*Im pinecove*

The golden cucco is a kokiri.

Originally Posted by smallville boy

All the monkeys are kokiris but theire leader isn't? LOL

Who said that? They might all be kokiri, but none of them has to necessarily be grown up. That was my only point there.

The monkeys are the only organized society in the woods and they live in a place full of kokiri symbols...

Im still analyzing the symbol in the arm of the monkey though...

Originally Posted by Smertios

Who said that? They might all be kokiri, but none of them has to necessarily be grown up. That was my only point there.

The monkeys are the only organized society in the woods and they live in a place full of kokiri symbols...

The kokiri are childs of the forest, they have child shapes, human childs(kokiris) or child trees(koroks),the leader of the monkeys is obvious a adult.

Originally Posted by Smertios

The monkeys are the only organized society in the woods and they live in a place full of kokiri symbols...

The monkeys have a organized society in the real life, that isn't a big deal.
Obvious those symbols in the big tree are kokiris symbols but not all the animals,insects and plants that live inside the tree are kokiris. That place surely is or was kokiri propety but in TP we don't se any kokiri in the game.

Originally Posted by Smertios

Im still analyzing the symbol in the arm of the monkey though...

Good luck, i doubt that you can find somenthing.

P.S: The guy from ordon ranch is a kokiri because his name is Fado like the kokiri from OOT and WW.

C'mon dudes we need use the brain, just open your minds a little bit.

Originally Posted by Mandrag

Nah, the Temple of Time raises too many questions if those are the same place.

Good one. Temple of Time has already raised many questions through today's theories. Don't know if I'd like more of them...

Originally Posted by smallville boy

The kokiri are childs of the forest, they have child shapes, human childs(kokiris) or child trees(koroks),the leader of the monkeys is obvious a adult.

proof that the kokiri are always children?

and child trees?
LOL

The monkeys have a organized society in the real life, that isn't a big deal.

what??

Obvious those symbols in the big tree are kokiris symbols but not all the animals,insects and plants that live inside the tree are kokiris.

of course....
the monkeys, on the other hand, are a special case, as they seem to be organized, unlike other animals in the series. I'm not saying the monkeys are kokiri, i'm just saying there is a good chance they were meant to be...

That place surely is or was kokiri propety but in TP we don't se any kokiri in the game.

Yes, the kokiri are not mentioned in TP at all. But, again, the fact that there is an organized tribe living in a kokiri building is intriguing...

Good luck, i doubt that you can find somenthing.

Okay, that on her arm definitely isn't the kokiri symbol. It seems familiar though for some reason...

P.S: The guy from ordon ranch is a kokiri because his name is Fado like the kokiri from OOT and WW.

Ths is ridiculous, not all Links are Hylians...

C'mon dudes we need use the brain, just open your minds a little bit.

I am, i'm analyzing all possibilities here. Try opening your mind a little and see that it is possible that the monkeys are indeed the kokiri

Originally Posted by Smertios

proof that the kokiri are always children?

and child trees?
LOL

-PROOF:

DEKU TREE:
Koroks! Little children of the woods!
This traveler is not your enemy. Let your
hearts be at ease, and show yourselves!

DEKU TREE:
The children of the forest, the Kokiri, live here with me.
Each Kokiri has his or her own guardian fairy. However, there is
one boy who does not have a fairy...

Originally Posted by Smertios

what??

Monkeys have a organized society in the real life. You need watch discovery channel.

Originally Posted by Smertios

of course....
the monkeys, on the other hand, are a special case, as they seem to be organized, unlike other animals in the series.

Again, monkeys are organized in the real life.

Originally Posted by Smertios

Ths is ridiculous, not all Links are Hylians...

Do you know the word "sarcasm"?
random fact: ALL the links are hylians, just for your information.

GAME OVA

Originally Posted by smallville boy

-PROOF:

I don't want proof that they are children in OoT. I want proof that they are always children, no matter what. And that, sir, you failed miserably to prove...

Monkeys have a organized society in the real life. You need watch discovery channel.

Who cares about real life?? Almost every non-solitarry animals have an organized society of some sort. That was not my point. The point was that, in TP, those specific monkeys are depicted as an intelligent tribe, unlike any other animals...

Again, monkeys are organized in the real life.

"In the series" being the keywords...

Do you know the word "sarcasm"?

I got your sarcasm there, I just thought it was stupid, sorry...

random fact: ALL the links are hylians, just for your information.

Oh really?? What about in LttP, where the Hylia are said to be extinct?? Link is a descendant of the Hylia, but not Hylian himself...

GAME OVA

You either really suck in games, and see this line written very often; or you are addicted to seeing it and lose the game on purpose...

EDIT:
Apparently, in game, the symbol on the monkey's shoulder resembles the kokiri symbol more:


stop at 3:01

stop at 7:44 now
Ook has a similar symbol on his back

Originally Posted by Smertios

I don't want proof that they are children in OoT. I want proof that they are always children, no matter what. And that, sir, you failed miserably to prove...

They are children in OOT and WW, they are children of the forest. ALWAYS
Move on.

Originally Posted by Smertios

Who cares about real life?? Almost every non-solitarry animals have an organized society of some sort. That was not my point. The point was that, in TP, those specific monkeys are depicted as an intelligent tribe, unlike any other animals...

Monkeys are very intelligent animals, we humans comes from the monkeys. If you don't know it please move on.

Originally Posted by Smertios

"In the series" being the keywords...

Obvious monkeys from TP are bassed in monkeys from real life, duh! move on.

Oh really?? What about in LttP, where the Hylia are said to be extinct?? Link is a descendant of the Hylia, but not Hylian himself...

He is hylian. in ALTTP there are normal people and some hylians like zelda, sharsharala,link and his uncle,the king of hyrule, maidens, etc... hylians have pointed ears and psychic powers, normal people don't. They are descendants of the ancient hylians and obvious they are hylains. Like zelda or other people in TP are hylians because are descendants of hylians. Move on.

Originally Posted by Smertios

You either really suck in games, and see this line written very often; or you are addicted to seeing it and lose the game on purpose...

I'm the game over master because i always finish a thread with my knowledge of the legend of zelda.

Originally Posted by Smertios

EDIT:
Apparently, in game, the symbol on the monkey's shoulder resembles the kokiri symbol more:
Ook has a similar symbol on his back

Kokiri symbol and monkey tatto are different symbols. Move on.

Originally Posted by Smertios

I don't want proof that they are children in OoT. I want proof that they are always children, no matter what. And that, sir, you failed miserably to prove...

that's a fail way to prove or disprove things. there is nothing mentioned in-game that gives even a hint that the monkeys are descended from the kokiri. if one has to provide proof, it's you, because you're the one arguing beyond what's stated in-game.

not that i'm agreeing or disagreeing with you, but before demanding proof to deny your theory, you must first prove that your theory at least is worthwhile to prove or disprove.

Who cares about real life?? Almost every non-solitarry animals have an organized society of some sort. That was not my point. The point was that, in TP, those specific monkeys are depicted as an intelligent tribe, unlike any other animals...



"In the series" being the keywords...

There is this really awesome game in the series. it's called Majora's Mask. there were monkeys there. they were intelligent. and apparently, they had some sort of society.

your point is null.

EDIT:
Apparently, in game, the symbol on the monkey's shoulder resembles the kokiri symbol more:


stop at 3:01

stop at 7:44 now
Ook has a similar symbol on his back

i'll see the video and make judgment after. however, a simple symbol that may or may not be similar is quite a stretch. after all, the Ritos have the exact same symbol as the Zoras, and there's still discussion about why they even have it.

:I

Originally Posted by smallville boy

They are children in OOT and WW, they are children of the forest. ALWAYS
Move on.

The fact that they are children in OoT (and definitely not in TWW) does not prove that they can't take other forms if they want to.

Monkeys are very intelligent animals, we humans comes from the monkeys. If you don't know it please move on.

Humans don't come from monkeys. We are completely different species with one common ancestor, but that does not mean one came from the other.

And who cares about RL? It is possible that the monkeys from TP came from other galaxy...

Obvious monkeys from TP are bassed in monkeys from real life, duh! move on.

Of course. Hylians and Sheikah are also based on RL humans, but I don't have pointed ears or red eyes....

Thy point is null

He is hylian. in ALTTP there are normal people and some hylians like zelda, sharsharala,link and his uncle,the king of hyrule, maidens, etc... hylians have pointed ears and psychic powers, normal people don't. They are descendants of the ancient hylians and obvious they are hylains. Like zelda or other people in TP are hylians because are descendants of hylians. Move on.

Find me one quote calling him such. He is said multiple times to descend from the Hylia, but I don't remember him being called so anytime.

I'm the game over master because i always finish a thread with my knowledge of the legend of zelda.

You always finish your thread with your lack of knowledge on the zelda series, you mean

Kokiri symbol and monkey tatto are different symbols. Move on.

Yup, I agree, though three different sites claim that they are the same. It's worth researching it more deeply.

If any symbol on any monkey is the same, the connection is about as strong as the zora->rito and kokiri->korok theories...

Originally Posted by Moronic Rascal

that's a fail way to prove or disprove things.

Hmm, you know how to read? If so read my other posts before actually trying to reply to one of them. I am not trying to prove or disprove anything! I'm arguing that SVB's arguments are not strong enough to disprove someone else's theory that the kokiri evolved into monkeys per se.

there is nothing mentioned in-game that gives even a hint that the monkeys are descended from the kokiri.

The monkeys live in a building related to the kokiri and there have been claims that the kokiri symbol has been seenin a monkey. That's enough for a proper investigation...

if one has to provide proof, it's you, because you're the one arguing beyond what's stated in-game.

That's why i hate newbish attitudes. Go read my posts for goodness sake. I said more than once that I'm NOT arguing that the monkeys are evolved kokiri. I'm just arguing that there is nothing conclusive disproving that theory.

If you have any evidence that the monkeys are 100% surely not kokiri, fell free to post it...

not that i'm agreeing or disagreeing with you, but before demanding proof to deny your theory, you must first prove that your theory at least is worthwhile to prove or disprove.

IT'S NOT MY THEORY!!!!
How long have you been theorizing? because i think i'm very aware on how to do that.

Someone posted his theories to how the kokiri evolved to monkeys (with in-game evidence) and SVB tried to disprove it but failed on getting conclusive evidence to do so. I came and showed that.

There is this really awesome game in the series. it's called Majora's Mask. there were monkeys there. they were intelligent. and apparently, they had some sort of society.

*facepalm*

I'll repeat, in TP...
The point is that the monkeys were socially organized in TP, unlike other animals seen in the very same game. Their state in the different game known as MM (that takes place in a different world, btw) is as irrelevant as their state in RL...

your point is null.

Next time you should try to actually read the post before replying. Because you really didn't get the point there...

i'll see the video and make judgment after. however, a simple symbol that may or may not be similar is quite a stretch. after all, the Ritos have the exact same symbol as the Zoras, and there's still discussion about why they even have it.

Exactly my point. It's worth discussing. Currently i'm neutral on that issue. If we see more conclusive evidence proving or disproving the theory, i might change my mind. But for now SVB hasn't showed conclusive enough evidence to disprove that theory...

Originally Posted by Smertios

The fact that they are children in OoT (and definitely not in TWW) does not prove that they can't take other forms if they want to.

from WW

DEKU TREE:
Koroks! Little children of the woods!
This traveler is not your enemy. Let your
hearts be at ease, and show yourselves!

They are children of the forest. ALWAYS

GAME OVA