Faron Woods = Kokiri Forest?

if you just had Hyrule field on a map and the lost woods area including kokiri forest and rotated that map 60ish degrees then the relationship between Ordon Village and Ordon Ranch actually pretty much correspond ot the shape and size of Kokiri Forest leading to the Deku Tree.

hmm... aren't all the temples in OoT some sort of doorway to the Sacred Realm?

maybe they (as in, the sages) closed completely the Temple of Time in Hyrule Castle Town, and made the Forest Temple the main doorway to the Sacred Realm?

After all, the "Temple of Time" was nothing more than a title. There was nothing that made it special besides the fact that the master sword was there... <___<

of course, this is nothing more than fan-fic on my part. It has no basis in fact besides a really fuzzy memory of my OoT playthroughs back in the day when i had a N64.

I repeat: The Kokiri aren't monkeys!
Are the MM monkeys Kokiri? No, but that doesn't explain their absence in MM.
The Kokiri are probably hidden deep in the woods.

Originally Posted by Mask Collector

I repeat: The Kokiri aren't monkeys!
Are the MM monkeys Kokiri? No, but that doesn't explain their absence in MM.

Dude. MM takes place in a different universe

And why couldn't the TP monkey's be Kokiri?
The Kokiri are spirits that can take on different forms at will.

Maybe the monkey's in MM are the Kokiri of Termina, you don't know that!

(But then again, neither do I )

maby the reason tot is near the the lost woods is because hyrule expanded and left it behind thats why tp is so big i man the area between the lost woods and tot hasent really changed maby they moved castle town

Originally Posted by helmaroc-king

maby the reason tot is near the the lost woods is because hyrule expanded and left it behind thats why tp is so big i man the area between the lost woods and tot hasent really changed maby they moved castle town

Hyrule Town was never near the Lost Woods, so how can the ToT be there then?

im saying the forest grew towards the tot because the people abandoned castle town to expand on land maby?

The dungeon could have been the Deku Tree Sprout from OoT or the fully grown Deku Tree from WW. I said both because these timelines are insane. Koroks or Kokiri MAY have evolved into these monkeys.

Give me a reason of why the Kokiri evolved in monkeys, the theory is justs as crazy as thinking that the Gerudo evolved into the Moblins you see in TP(just because they live in the desert and have red hair doesn't mean that they came from Gerudo).
The Forest temple in TP appears to be the GDT's remains, but that doesn't mean that the never was a GDT sprout, the Kokiri could just have moved it...deeper in the forest to be near them, like the one from OoT.

Hyrule Town was never near the Lost Woods, so how can the ToT be there then?

The forest can expand alot in 10 years, just think what happens after hundreds of years.

Maybe from what they said about 'Leaving the forest can kill a Kokiri' was just a rumor and maybe when they possibly left the forest for that reason, they turned into monkeys.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Dude. MM takes place in a different universe

And why couldn't the TP monkey's be Kokiri?
The Kokiri are spirits that can take on different forms at will.

The Monkeys from TP couldn'y be kokiris because they are normal monkeys that can't talk, kokiris(koroks) can talk because they are forest spirits.

MAKAR:
Swordsman... Are you the one who
rescued me?

LINDER:
N-No! It is not that, O Great Deku Tree!
Makar...fell into the Forbidden Woods!

In TP link only can talk with the monkeys when he became wolf, and that's because link can talk with all the animals in his beast form, when he is in his human form, he cant talk with the monkeys.

MIDNA:Hey! That's the monkey that stole your lantern!
Doesn't it look like she's beckoning you? Aren't you the popular one? Eee hee!

Hmm... What are you doing, turning the lights on?
You might as well light them all and make this place really bright!

Oh! What's going on?! Has there been a monkey fight?!
Oh no! Now we can't go any farther. We might as well go back.
I don't know what's going on, but it seems like she wants to take you
somewhere, so maybe you should just follow her.

The monkey can't talk with link, the monkey stole the lanter from link like a messange " Comon hero! follow me, i need help"
And in the begining when link was in his wolf form and can talk with animals, the monkeys don't said anything about be forest spirits or somenthing like that.

Conclusion:
Monkeys from TP are just normal monkeys not kokiris, not forest spirits.

GAME OVER

This thread is getting seriously derailed. Can someone this please.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

QFT.



One word: Monkeys.

I was just looking at a picture of one of the monkeys and realized that they do, in fact, have pointy ears like the kokiri, so it may be quite possible that they have taken that form.

it's a bit weird though...

Actually, according to the game, they could be Monkeys. They can do whatever the f*** they want. They very well could have been the monkeys, but they're not. Thing is, it seems just like the Hylians to kill them off so they could live there. Sorry. That's the way things go. Remember the poor Native Americans? I bet you see what I'm talking about now.

I always believe that the Kokiri Forest would the modern day Faron Woods.

There is so many unanswered questions in TP perhaps thats why its been debated so much. I hope the possible sequel to TP answers everyones question as why people and areas have changed.

What would be great in a Zelda game is having scrolls or old books to read up in a village library to learn the history of the land, its people, laws, and other things.

Originally Posted by Maska času

Actually, according to the game, they could be Monkeys. They can do whatever the f*** they want. They very well could have been the monkeys, but they're not. Thing is, it seems just like the Hylians to kill them off so they could live there. Sorry. That's the way things go. Remember the poor Native Americans? I bet you see what I'm talking about now.

lol ya...

I just wanted to point something out that could have supported that argument

Originally Posted by LinkThatRemains

The dungeon could have been the Deku Tree Sprout from OoT or the fully grown Deku Tree from WW. I said both because these timelines are insane. Koroks or Kokiri MAY have evolved into these monkeys.

It can't be neither, because the Deku tree sprout isn't said to exist in the child timeline just the giant remains of the original.

And it can not be the Deku Tree from the TWW because it is on a separate timeline all together.

In regards to the monkeys.....No

if you just had Hyrule field on a map and the lost woods area including kokiri forest and rotated that map 60ish degrees then the relationship between Ordon Village and Ordon Ranch actually pretty much correspond ot the shape and size of Kokiri Forest leading to the Deku Tree.

So what, the sun travels diagonally across the sky then? TP and OoT's maps don't need comparing TP retconned OoT.

I repeat: The Kokiri aren't monkeys!

Prove it.

Give me a reason of why the Kokiri evolved in monkeys, the theory is justs as crazy as thinking that the Gerudo evolved into the Moblins you see in TP(just because they live in the desert and have red hair doesn't mean that they came from Gerudo).

Prove they didn't. Also Moblins were around before TP.

The Monkeys from TP couldn'y be kokiris because they are normal monkeys that can't talk, kokiris(koroks) can talk because they are forest spirits.

That's faulty logic. Who says that they can't talk just because they don't?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

So what, the sun travels diagonally across the sky then? TP and OoT's maps don't need comparing TP retconned OoT.

Except for Zora's Dmain and the ToT, there was no retcon at all! OoT Hyrule corresponds to the area in the TP map cpomposed of Lower Lanayru, Lower Eldin and Faron.

Here:

OoT map:


TP map:


Now, for the comparison:

Prove they didn't. Also Moblins were around before TP.

There are no Moblins in TP! And in OoT there are moblins only in the adult portion...