Is TRR canon? Your views

So is TRR canon? I think I already know what the majority is gonna think but might as well see.

I don't think it's canon. It wasn't made by the Zelda team, Miyamoto and Aonuma had nothing to do with it, the producer hadn't played the Zelda games very much. I see it the same way I see the manga; official with Nintendo's seal but not canon.

This was a tricky one for me. I voted no.
While I don't think its "canon", I do think it can be referenced to support theories (such as the land forming etc etc).

Argh! Why do I keep voting the wrong answer tonight?

My vote says yes, but I disagree.

I don't know what TTR means, I don't know what canon means.

I think the better way to do this topic would be to outline the basic points of the argument (for both sides, if it can even be done), letting people make an informed decision. But yeah, basically:

- It's not a Zelda game, self-evident from the title, but also story and gameplay
- It wasn't made with the involvement of Nintendo EAD and the Zelda team
- It doesn't actually lean towards any timeline placement, geography aside (because that's more a game structure thing) - it's a side-story that explores a character of the Zelda series, but it's not essentially part of the same storyline.
- Treating Tingle-related evidence as canon leads timelines to disaster. Period.

TRR: Freshly Picked Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland, a DS RPG-ish spin-off game released only in Japan and Europe that stars Tingle.
Canon: Part of the official Zelda storyline.

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I'd have to do more research into how the game was made [which I don't have time for right now] to draw a good conclusion. I'm undecided on the matter.

I vote no. The only things of importance in TRR are geography (like Impossible said) and the Subrosian hood thing, which I've never seen a quote for.

Also, it's a bloody Tingle game. What else do you need to make it non-canon?

I suppose it would have helped to have attached something of relevance to the topic to my joke post. Well, live and learn. Anyway, I voted "yes" simply because I'm a completist. I consider everything to be canon unless:

1.) It is obviously and utterly incompatible with the timeline of the franchise. Considering we don't even know what the timeline is, TRR can easily fit somewhere.

2.) Someone involved in the production team declares it non-canon in a verifiable interview or the game is officially advertised as non-canon. The people who make the games know the timeline better than we do (theoretically, anyway). No such statement or announcement has been made regarding TRR.

3.) It is a retelling of a previous installment in the franchise. How I approach this one varies on a case-by-case basis. Regardless of how I would approach it, the fact of the matter is that TRR isn't a remake, so the point is moot.

4.) It's an unlicensed game. I don't think I need to expound on this any further.

5.) This is one of my peculiarities which not many share: it is in the original medium of the franchise. TRR is a video game, so this holds true. This usually helps keep what I like to call "spin-off overflow" from convoluting everything. Note that this only holds for franchises that have not had a canon set in stone, yet. Star Wars has a canon policy which includes non-movie material, so I defer to that. Friday the 13th has no official canon policy, so I only go by the movies.

Since none of these criteria have been met, I see no real reason to discount TRR. So the director wasn't familiar with the franchise. So what? There's only so much damage they could do when the timeline is this vague, and others can easily write around it later. Again, it happens in the Star Wars franchise all the time.

I'm undecided.

Moon over at ZI, brings up some good points with the bloodlines, such as the Kokiri, the Subrosians and Link.

In my opinion, Freshly Picked: Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland was clearly supposed to be a joke game meant for fun and to give Tingle some room in the spotlight. It's not canon at all.

Originally Posted by Acid

I don't know what TTR means, I don't know what canon means.

So... no one is going to explain this to me?

Originally Posted by Acid

So... no one is going to explain this to me?

TRR is Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland. Canon means if something is really an authentic, official, accepted work.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

TRR is Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland. Canon means if something is really an authentic, official, accepted work.

Oh. Mkay, thank you. Then Yes, TRR is canon.

Canon in debating usually refers to whether it can be used as evidence. Sure, it's official by Nintendo, but so is the manga.