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Old 03-07-2009, 09:24 PM
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Theorizing Outsiide of ZU

You've all most likely seen some random speculation from fan's who don't know that much about theorizing, or remember their own crazy theories (You know who you are). Today well on youtube I got a reply to a comment I left the conversation goes went like this.

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Person 1: Actually everyone,after the legend of zelda the minish cap,hyrule sank and became the great sea,which led to the wind waker! just wantd to give you guys a heads up! I know all of the games so it's only apparent that I give you the truth!
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Peron 2: accually after minish cap was the fourswords, then the fourswords adventures came after that and after that hyrule sank and made the great sea. I know because zelda is my life
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rajin95: No Hyrule sunk before the four sword trilogy I know because Hyrule in the 4 sword trilogy is an island.
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Person 2: You are a moron they are not on an island if you think they are you have a mental condition *******
For those who didn't guess Rajin95 is also my youtube account. So this kinda interested me. So what other n00b theories do you remember people saying or that you use to think.
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:32 PM
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Youtube - The breeding ground of trolls.

I use to theorize on MSN, but not much really. Which reminds me, I think us ZUers should have a theorizing chat room on Skype or something.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:26 PM
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Youtube - The breeding ground of complete idiots who are a prime example of the worst the internet has to offer.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:47 PM
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For those who didn't guess Rajin95 is also my youtube account
...Really? Your message seemed as bad as the rest. Hyrule is an island in TMC? (I already know your response to this. People like to assume I'm ignorant, when in reality, I know their evidence and can go a step further with my own which they are ignorant of. So don't bother with the backgrounds, two others show that it clearly isn't an island.)

YouTube is ridiculous. I keep having comment debates trying to explain to them that the split timeline is factual canon, and they blatantly ignore every single point I make, parroting the same stupid points. Twilight Wolf has it right...
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:02 PM
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Re: Theorizing Outsiide of ZU

if you are asking if there's another site were the fans theorize, well there are the Bomber's articles.
And yes, the fact that the Split Timeline is Canon is old news, i still can't believe there are still persons that deny that fact, it's completely stupid.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:12 PM
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:24 AM
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(I already know your response to this. People like to assume I'm ignorant, when in reality, I know their evidence and can go a step further with my own which they are ignorant of. So don't bother with the backgrounds, two others show that it clearly isn't an island.)
Not really, they show that it could a large island, with mountains before the ocean...
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:55 AM
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There's no ocean in sight pretty much forever into the background of the highest places in Hyrule, just saying. So it's a a continent... That's clearly bigger than FSA's Hyrule. Not sure what your point is.
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Old 03-08-2009, 08:50 AM
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Tell me about it. I have a yt-video called "Why the split timeline doesn't make too much sense" and I'm getting so many stupid flame comments by splittists, most of them not understanding or ignoring the things that I actually mention in that video. It's very annoying, but there's not much you can do about it.
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:14 AM
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Re: Theorizing Outsiide of ZU

There are alot of noob theorists outside of ZU, but people outside of ZU are ahead of us in many aspects.

For example, outside of ZU it is almost universally accepted that ALTTP leads into LA, possibly with OOX inbetween. And yet, there are still many people here putting LA down as a LOZ/AOL sequel, or a TMC sequel, or whatever else.
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:27 AM
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There's no ocean in sight pretty much forever into the background of the highest places in Hyrule, just saying. So it's a a continent... That's clearly bigger than FSA's Hyrule. Not sure what your point is.
It doesn't have to be a continent. there are islands with mountains too. Plus the PoW bg image shows islands...

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And yet, there are still many people here putting LA down as a LOZ/AOL sequel, or a TMC sequel, or whatever else.
Are there? I never saw anyone do that...
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Old 03-08-2009, 09:31 AM
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First of all - I dont believe in split timeline. I've decided to write my own timeline theory somewhere on ZU (because I remember there was a forum for timeline theories).

Second - most of people on YouTube are actually kids down to 6 years old, who think that they know all there is to know about the subject, in this case - The Legend of Zelda universe. They've played all the games, know all the bosses and enemies, they know it all. Better then Know-It-All birds and brothers. It's really a loss of precious life time arguing with such people, because nothing you say will make them change their mind. Even if Miyamoto himself showed up and said "No, that's not true" he'd get a rock in his head or something.

So, don't be surprised with such remarks, just ignore them. If they say "Zelda is my life and I know that she is a HE", you just nudge your head and slowly walk away.
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Old 03-08-2009, 01:23 PM
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First of all - I dont believe in split timeline. I've decided to write my own timeline theory somewhere on ZU (because I remember there was a forum for timeline theories).
But why, didn't Aonuma said it, it has to be canon!! i mean he's the Zelda series new director!!!
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Second - most of people on YouTube are actually kids down to 6 years old, who think that they know all there is to know about the subject, in this case - The Legend of Zelda universe. They've played all the games, know all the bosses and enemies, they know it all. Better then Know-It-All birds and brothers. It's really a loss of precious life time arguing with such people, because nothing you say will make them change their mind. Even if Miyamoto himself showed up and said "No, that's not true" he'd get a rock in his head or something.
6 year olds in Youtube, These kids can barely write, that might explain why is the place full of noobs, nerds and inmature brats, hahahaha.
And yeah ther are some many ignorant noobs in the whole internet, so ignorant that will never believe tha statements of the creator of the series they love.
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So, don't be surprised with such remarks, just ignore them. If they say "Zelda is my life and I know that she is a HE", you just nudge your head and slowly walk away.
Those persons need a life, i used to be one of those, but i realized i needed a life...how embarrasing...ironicaly those guys freak me out!!
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Old 03-08-2009, 03:02 PM
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And yeah ther are some many ignorant noobs in the whole internet, so ignorant that will never believe tha statements of the creator of the series they love.
Not having blind belief in something is not the same as ignorance.
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Old 03-08-2009, 04:49 PM
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Tell me about it. I have a yt-video called "Why the split timeline doesn't make too much sense" and I'm getting so many stupid flame comments by splittists, most of them not understanding or ignoring the things that I actually mention in that video. It's very annoying, but there's not much you can do about it.
Oh, that's you?

Well, **** then, READ THE DAMN COMMENTS. You completely misunderstood key aspects of the split timeline, of course it doesn't make sense. And you really need to do some research regarding TWW, because we know exactly what the lines you're complaining about actually mean.

I know this is off topic, but Smertios, it would pay to read what I said about context, i.e. the PoW image is out of context. If it's high enough in the sky, anything would look small - and that may not even be Hyrule down there, but somewhere else. Or maybe it's not story at all, because it's background that needed to be one colour for gameplay purposes... If it showed Hyrule any bigger, there would be various colours in the background and it would be confusing to the player to work out where they can safely stand.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:01 PM
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Oh, that's you?

Well, **** then, READ THE DAMN COMMENTS. You completely misunderstood key aspects of the split timeline, of course it doesn't make sense. And you really need to do some research regarding TWW, because we know exactly what the lines you're complaining about actually mean.
Believe me, I read every stupid comment on that video. I have to. I get emailed everytime someone makes a comment on it.
And you don't know anything about those lines - you're speculating, no more, no less. However, my video is dated anyway. trueedge is the one you should be keeping an eye one, since he is investing much more time and effort into this on yt than I do, mainly because my channel is not intended for Zelda- and timeline-discussions.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:14 PM
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Someone said something about a flood happening before WW and after PH,TP,and MC.I told him there was only one and he said a lot of bad things about me.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:33 PM
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Someone said something about a flood happening before WW and after PH,TP,and MC.I told him there was only one and he said a lot of bad things about me.
I believe Hyrule was flooded by Ganondorf (because it says the in the beginning of WW that the evil came back when the hero left) during the time when Link went to Termina in MM. Then generations later we have the WW Link who is living on the ocean. After you beat Ganon in that game King Daphnes sends back up Link and Zelda and doesn't bring back up Hyrule. So it is a bit confusing on why Hyrule returned in TP, because according to timeline theories, TP was after WW.
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:38 PM
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And you don't know anything about those lines - you're speculating, no more, no less.
...Having the literal Japanese translation that clarifies exactly what they're talking about is not speculation. Trueedge is as bad as you and also refuses to accept any evidence he didn't know about. Who's the blind one?
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Old 03-08-2009, 05:49 PM
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...Having the literal Japanese translation that clarifies exactly what they're talking about is not speculation. Trueedge is as bad as you and also refuses to accept any evidence he didn't know about. Who's the blind one?
The japanese text is not as definitive as to clarify which journey (or timeline) the KoRL is referring to.

And by "also", I understand that you think that I refuse to accept any evidence I don't know about. That's not true.

In my opinion is the blind one he who is not willing to try to understand or accept other people's points of view and I do not consider myself guilty of that.

If you wanna debate further on my yt-video and its content, I'd strongly suggest that we do that either via PM or Youtube itself, since it is not exactly the topic of this thread.
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