Geography or the AoL BS?

BTW, I was reading SoM's post in ZD, and I realized something: I DO have a game in which an ancient demon used a trident. OoT.

Oh gawd. I actually contemplated using Phantom Ganon's trident as the origin when I used to believe LttP/OoX/LA. But it was a stupid idea then and it's a stupid idea now.

Why would Ganon use the weapon of a worthless creation?

Sorry what's the situation here? And according to SMertios why does OoX have to follow either ALttP or LoZ?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Sorry what's the situation here? And according to SMertios why does OoX have to follow either ALttP or LoZ?

Triforce and Ganon mostly.

Because they are the only games in which Blue Ganon is killed. Also, back when OoX was released, they were the only games in which Ganon/dorf had been killed...

That's stupid. If LoZ can work after TWW with the Triforce then so can OoX. And as for Ganon: So what? They called the SOUL of Ganon into the Trident...well the yoshiro.

Smertios, what makes you go against believing that the Trident being "born from darkness" refers to OoX, where it is summoned along with Ganon in a ritual that requires the spreading of darkness, and bestows the name King of Darkness upon Ganon?

.....Yeah what Erimgard said.

Smertios, I disagree with everything you say, so I'm not even going to worry about it anymore. I'm just going to defend my timeline since you're making stupid points against it.

A: The Triforce after TWW is a problem for everyone. We don't even bring it up anymore, since it's a default problem. Anyway, my theory is that when Daphnes said he had scattered the seeds of the future, he was talking about the Triforce parts. They were found over time and became the foundation of New Hyrule. There's no evidence, but I think it's the most likely situation.

B: Ganondorf + power source = Ganon. The Trident of POWER is his power source in OoX.

C: It doesn't have to be. It's not a problem.

D: Show me a quote about a hero bringing peace back between TWW and OoX. It sounds to me like you're misinterpreting Zelda's quote about the hero that will surely appear when Hyrule's peace is disturbed. My views on that are in my "Chosen Hero" theory. If there was a time when a hero saved Hyrule between TWW and OoX, it was the Hero of Men in the TMC BS.

Originally Posted by Ollathir

A: The Triforce after TWW is a problem for everyone.

Fulfillment of Daphnes' wish.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Smertios, what makes you go against believing that the Trident being "born from darkness" refers to OoX, where it is summoned along with Ganon in a ritual that requires the spreading of darkness, and bestows the name King of Darkness upon Ganon?

The fact that it is not necessary. Is the darkness mentioned in OoX?

Yes.
Onox lights a flame by causing destruction.
Veran lights a flame by spreading darkness and sorrow.
Twinrova lights a flame by kidnapping Zelda and stealing the people's hope.

The three flames are what cause Ganon's soul to be summoned.

The way I see it, the Trident is in three games. In aLttP, he just has it. In FSA, he found it with a plaque saying it's "born from darkness". In OoX, it appeared in his hand after hew as ressurected. OoX looks like the birth of the Trident to me.

Maybe. I don't know anymore....

I think I need some time off theorizing to think about this stuff...

Originally Posted by Smertios

I'll agree with that. But we also see land behind the mountain in FS...

But not in FSA.

It is just as important, but I interpretate it differently than you do. Because daimaō is just a generic description that fits Ganon in every game. And Yami no Maō is a very specific title...

Maō fits Ganon in all games, because it means demon king. Daimaou is a title established at a specific time, seemingly when Ganon took the Triforce of Power, as is Yami no Maou, seemingly related to Ganon's revival in OoX and/or possession of the trident.

Fair enough, but that's all...

ALttP has... art style.

But that's beside the point, as I claim it was adjacent to ALttP in the timeline when it was made anyway.

It was in the boxes and promotional material...

Debatably on the boxes; what promotional material?

I agree there, but i also believe that OoX has a lot of evidence supporting its connection to LttP and LA...

Anything story-related, or just the art style?

I see. But is he referred to as Yami no Maō in-game in the SNES version of LttP?

Yes; we don't have Japanese translations of the GBA version.

I don't think that was the case. In my opinion the split was always there and we were just too stuborn to see it

The Legend of the Fairy says otherwise. ;D

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Fulfillment of Daphnes' wish.

What does it have to do with the Triforce?

Part one of his wish was Hyrule should be washed away. We physically see that happening.
Part two of his wish was a hope for the future. The Triforce flying off [to be claimed by the Link/Tetra or the Great Ruler of the AoL BS] is potentially the fulfillment of that.

Eh, maybe. I don't think they have to get the Triforce to have a future. It's a possibility, but not a sure solution.

Originally Posted by Ollathir

I don't think they have to get the Triforce to have a future. It's a possibility, but not a sure solution.

It's the object of the main scenario in AoL.

Just sayin'.

Yeah, getting one piece of it. The ToP and the ToW were already in the possession of the royal family until right before LoZ.

Originally Posted by Ollathir

Yeah, getting one piece of it.

Actually, the objective is: "Make the Triforce complete and thus save the princess. And, bring back the peaceful Hyrule."

According to the scroll: "I pray that you will then become the light of hope for Hyrule."

See Daphnes's wish: "Give these children a [bright] future full of hope!"
(the word "bright" is used later in an almost identical phrase)

Okay. I looked at the BS and you're right. Making the Triforce whole has more effects than awakening Zelda.

I don't think there's any connection to TWW. It's not even used in the same context.