Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

No. I just got the pictures from the link in the first post. It says the art is from the alltp players guide (does not state if it is american or japanese) but does state that the artist is Japanese.

The artists in my players Guide are japanease bu the art director is american. What's your point?

I'm confused on what your point is.

I'm stating that just because the words by NoA in the american guide is wrong does not mean the japanese art is non-canon.

When did I ever say it was?

Infact I'm now thinking that official art IS Canon.

Exactly why would the official players' guide not be considered canon if it was made by Nintendo?

Also, if the Player's Guide on ALttP was trying to explain the LoZ/AoL storylines with those images, wouldn't they retcon the older pictures from the games? It seems to me they were trying to hint more insight on things than what the ALttP Box did or what the older LoZ/AoL manuals were limited too before.

To comment on the first part.
The guide says
LoZ-AoL BS-AoL.

...Please tell me you don't believe that Skylark or historian?

No, he was asking why the guide is considered non-canon. So I told him what the guide says.

Originally Posted by Skylark

To comment on the first part.
The guide says
LoZ-AoL BS-AoL.

Well, I suppose that may support the idea of the BS being after TWW, but before ALttP still. Maybe.

I'm rather iffy on seeing the AoL BS not being post events to a definite game that confirms or hints Hyrule's unity. It's like trying to make the SW not OoT to me.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

...Please tell me you don't believe that Skylark or historian?

I'm only questioning that the player's guide seems to be retconing older content, and conflicting with the infamous ALttP Box description. I believe someone goofed, and that was the people that were responsible for the box content. The AlttP guide, and those images of the LoZ/AoL storyline, support Miyamoto's intent; that would have been later stated when OoT was made.

Interesting stuff. I think the art is canon.
The only problem with it is the "Master Sword" like design of the Magic Sword in one of the LoZ pics, but thats fine, because in-game it is called the Magical Sword, which is more important than art.

Originally Posted by Viral

Interesting stuff. I think the art is canon.
The only problem with it is the "Master Sword" like design of the Magic Sword in one of the LoZ pics, but thats fine, because in-game it is called the Magical Sword, which is more important than art.

Seeing as the LoZ/AoL storylines were not very complex, ALttP capitalized on it in many ways. The Magical Sword being shown, looking very similar to that of the Master Sword, should not be dismissed since Nintendo artist took the time to redefine it.

You could argue that newer ALttP player guides and game manuals retcon all of this. But seeing as the people that debate LoZ/AoL after ALttP use some of the old content as canon, this indifference should not matter towards making ANY special exception.

We can't allow excuses to try and keep things comfortable. Until someone can prove the AlttP Strategy Guide is not officially marked by Nintendo, I'll stand back.

Well, does anyone have the LttP player guide?

I'm going to make it easy for those that support LoZ/AoL after ALttP, because I won't hide the flaws I'm aware of. Her's my advice: Accept AST as canon, and that will render that stupid quote, "And the Master Sword sleeps... forever!!" meaningless to those that take it literally. As for the Trident issues, it helps more than it hurts on either side (looks at SoM).

There. Happy? Good.

Edit:

Hombre should be happy especially.

To determine canonicity of a source, we should look at who made it, not whether it fits with our pictures of the series. Since the art seems to have been drawn by the artist for ALttP at NoJ, we can safely say that it is probably canonical. The only arguments against it right now are "it contradicts such-and-such idea," but those aren't really valid arguments as "such-and-such idea" is a fan interpretation and not necessarily canon itself to start with.

I should start calling you Zen-Sama-Lex.

I just know how "canon" works. Being Catholic helps with that a bit, as we invented the idea.

I'm going to make it easy for those that support LoZ/AoL after ALttP, because I won't hide the flaws I'm aware of. Her's my advice: Accept AST as canon, and that will render that stupid quote, "And the Master Sword sleeps... forever!!" meaningless to those that take it literally. As for the Trident issues, it helps more than it hurts on either side (looks at SoM).

There. Happy? Good.

Impossible as proved by me in the other thread.

While we're discussing the pictures of LoZ/AoL in the Player's Guide, can someone finally tell me who that old dude in AoL was meant to be?

That s**t has been bugging me for years.

He is the old man who give link the triforce of courage in the grat palace(AOL).


I think that the pics from the guide aren't real canon.

^He is the guy who guarded the ToC.