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Old 01-30-2009, 10:04 AM
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

I don't have a scanner but I can quote it...Lets see here...

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THE LEGEND OF ZELDA
She was a princess of the realm as intelligent as she was beautiful...............and break Ganon's power.......Link used the legendary silver arrow to peirce the wizzard's black heart and to destroy him utterly. Or so it was thought. The wise ones say that while evil can e diminished it can never truly be vanquished and soon an ominous shadow fel over the land of Hyrule once more.
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ZELDAII THE ADVENTURE OF LINK
After Ganon's defeat a new golden age blossomed in Hyrule..............................The young Hero was troubled and worst fears were realized...
Holy shit this says that the sleeping Zelda in AoL is the one from LoZ!

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when Princess Zelda was struck down by a terrifying enchantment.......
I think my work here is done. The guides are not Canon nor is art.

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Old 01-30-2009, 10:19 AM
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

^ Don't be too hasty. The quote that reffers to LoZ Zelda being the sleeping one is obviously not right, but that doesn't mean that stuff like art is not. Think about it, the art was probably made by some high Nintendo dude. The text you write is just a NoA goon asked to summarize LoZ and AoL in a dramatic manner.
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:21 AM
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

Not really.

The official art comes from the players guide.
The players guide is not Canon.
Hence by extension the "official" art is not Canon.

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Old 01-30-2009, 10:30 AM
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

^ Doesn't mean anything. You don't know if the art was made by the same peple who made the guide, or the zelda team itself. Just because it appears in a player's guide doesn't mean that it's automatically not canon.
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Old 01-30-2009, 10:32 AM
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Doesn't mean anything. You don't know if the art was made by the same peple who made the guide, or the zelda team itself. Just because it appears in a player's guide doesn't mean that it's automatically not canon.
1. The art doesn't apear outside of the players guide.
2. The art director for the players guides (according to the one I have beside me) is AMerican and also helped write the players guide.

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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

The OoT art =/= alltp art. The artist for the alltp art is Japanese according to ZL.

Can you post that whole quote about princess zelda? that is only the exert and context is everything when discusing two people with the same name. I want to hit every angle before deciding if it is canon or not.
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Old 01-30-2009, 11:18 AM
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

Well I don't have the ALttP players Guide but I'm pretty sure that it applies to the same rules as the OoT one.

You sure? Oh boy this'll take forever.......

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After Ganon's defeat, a new Golden age blossomed in Hyrule.
There was no want, and there were happiness and prosperity in
great measure. One person who did not share in this time of joy
ironicly was Link. The young hero was troubled by signs of
lurking danger, and his worst fears were realized when Princess
Zelda was stricken by a terrifying enchantment.

A mysterios sorcerer unable to wrest the secrets of the Triforce
from Zelda, cast upon her a spell of endless, dreamless sleep.
Link strode forth once more................

Thus was Princess Zelda freed from her unnatural
slumber, and the dark pall of doom over Hyrule lifted.
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Did you use OoX to explain the MS's return?
Not explicitly. I used OoX to explain that the Master Sword was found after the flood; LoZ and OoX both can now be used to demonstrate it, as in both the Master Sword is not in its pedestal in Hyrule.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

Thank you, That proves that the OoT guide is not canon. While we dont have the alltp one, we can assume it is of the same level of canon, and thus not very reliable. However, the art itself is still an issue.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

THANK GOD!
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

The NoA story synopsis have never been considered canon, because they originate from Nintendo Power writers, who are not Nintendo officials. The art is another story, as it comes from an artist for the actual games.

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The NoJ box implies the same thing.
The NoJ box says that "the stage is set when Hyrule was one kingdom," but that could be referring to the Imprisoning War, and thus implies nothing about ALttP's placement.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

ALright, this just brings us down to weather the official art is Canon. The text sn't hough so the timeline WAS ALttP-LoZ

And LA doesn't come after LoZ.
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The text sn't hough so the timeline WAS ALttP-LoZ
There is zero evidence for this.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

ALright I'll bite.

The ALttP guide shows the seven sages to be seven wise men. Which they aren't.

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Yes there is. Such asthe creation of the silver arrows etc.
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ALright, this just brings us down to weather the official art is Canon. The text sn't hough so the timeline WAS ALttP-LoZ

And LA doesn't come after LoZ.
The was never any text implying it was loz- alltp. I just believe that telling the events that take place after the game you are playing is weird story telling. Thus, by "recapping" the story it implies loz-alttp.
However, OoT guide does this as well, so the arguement is moot. However that doesnt automatically prove the intent was the other way.
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The ALttP guide shows the seven sages to be seven wise men. Which they aren't.
The aLttP guide was made in 1991, and OoT was made in 1998. It's a retcon, we know this already.

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They weren't created; they were given to you.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

.......Alright I'm back to PH-LoZ.

Again.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

@SKylark: Can I see the page that the MS = MS art is on?
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

It's in the opening post. Link is holding the sword in the picture with zelda. Then I have a pic of the Alltp MS as well.
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Re: Art in the Alltp players guide, canon?

That's not what I meant.

I mean do you have the ALttP players guide?
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