King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule

King Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule has always puzzled me as to why he is still alive and that he seems to have mystical powers. I looked in zeldawiki and this is the info I found:

"Judging by how he fades in and out of existence, and how he's still living in Hyrule despite the fact that it had been sealed away by the gods long ago, he may merely be an apparition. He may also be grounded spiritually to Hyrule, as Link only meets him in person while in Hyrule."

What do you guys think, is he an apparition?
If not, then what else?

Tetra meets him too. He has probably used his ToW shard to 1. live longer 2. bypass the time seal thing.

I think I agree with Skylark.

BTW I believe that Daphnes is the king from OoT. It would make sense for why he has regrets about Hyrule. And why he knew Ganondorf.

If he was the same king from OoT then how did he obtain the piece of the ToW? What was of him in the 7 years? I think Ganondorf killed him after the split.

Well I'd say it is the only logical answer for how he could be a king and how he could have talked to Ganon in the past.

How else would he know Ganon if Ganon was sealed the whole time?

Well, the entities who sealed him could have told him about ganon. After peace returns to Hyrule in OoT AT ending, antoher couple of descendants could have been created from Zelda. I dont think the flood occured just after the OoT ending.

I think that he only remains in person in Hyrule because he is bound to it. Plus, he probrably had the ToW shard because it was entrusted to him. He also gives many clues that he was King during OoT. The ToW was given to him maybe because of the fact that Zelda, Tetra's ancestor, fled to the mountaintops as Daphnes states, "Those were your ancestors," when he talks to Link and Tetra. Because Hyrlue had been frozen and sealed in time for many long years, there are so many possibilities.

Originally Posted by King Daphnes

He who touches it will have whatever he
desires granted...

That is what you said, is it not, Ganondorf?

He has spoken to Ganondorf before.

He has spoken to Ganondorf before.

YouTube - The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - Ganondorf

Or he heard him just a few seconds ago.

Originally Posted by Sign of Madness

He has spoken to Ganondorf before.

Or he just overheard Ganondorf saying that five seconds ago. Edit: SevenYears also pointed this out a minute ago.

I believe that King Daphnes was still alive. After all, Twinrova could live for 400 years, so Daphnes, being a sorcerer, could have also gained an extended life span. He also held part of the ToW, and he may have inherited the role of Sage from OoT's Zelda.

I doubt that he was the king from OoT. His reasons for feeling guilty and having regret are clearly just due to his failure to prevent Ganon from conquering Hyrule when a hero wasn't around. Also, the intro to TWW states that Ganon returned at a time when the Hero of Time had faded into legend, so it was clearly a couple of generations down the road.

Damn forgot about that.

I stand corrected then.

Daphnes is just an apparition IMO, and isn't there a quote that says only those living can obtain the Triforce... so when Daphnes touches it, he doesn't receive it, or the part that reflects him most... The Triforce goes away... as I've thought because he is not living...

and isn't there a quote that says only those living can obtain the Triforce

Ahem...

The Triforce will grant the wishes in the heart and mind of that person as long as he lives.

Daphneas wishes on the Triforce hense he can't be dead.

...I just got denied...

Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule was the king of the kingdom that was flooded.
I mean, he isn't the king from OOT.
Hyrule was flooded long long time after OOT ending, i mean many generations after OOT ending.

WW INTRO:
Long ago, there existed a kingdom where a golden power lay hidden. One day, a
man of great evil found this power and took it for himself, and with it at his
command, he spread darkness across the kingdom. But then...just as all hope had
died, a young boy clothed in green appeared as if from nowhere. Wielding a blade
that repelled evil, he sealed the dark one away and gave the land light. This boy,
who traveled through time to save the land, was known as the Hero of Time. The
boy's tale was passed down through generations until it became legend.

And then a day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom, and the
great evil once again crept forth from the depths of the earth.

DAPHNES NOHANSEN HYRULE:
This is Hyrule...

And I am its king:
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule.

Link, do you not recognize
my voice?

Indeed, I am the one who guided you here.
I am the King of Red Lions.

There was no need for me to reveal my true
identity to you so long as that blade,
the Master Sword, could defeat Ganon...

But now...both of you must listen to me.

Once, long ago, this land of Hyrule was
turned into a world of shadows by Ganon,
who sought to obtain the power of the
gods for his own evil ends.

My power alone could not stop the fiend,
and our only choice was to leave the fate
of the kingdom in the hands of the gods...

When the gods heard our pleas, they chose
to seal away not only Ganon, but Hyrule
itself...and so, with a torrential downpour
of rains from the heavens...

Our fair kingdom was soon buried beneath
the waves, forgotten at the bottom of
the ocean.

Yet all was not lost. For the gods knew
that to seal the people away with the
kingdom would be to grant Ganon's wish
for the destruction of the land.

So, before the sealing of the kingdom,
the gods chose those who would build a
new country and commanded them to take
refuge on the mountaintops.

Those people were your ancestors.

Hundreds of years have passed since then...

In WW Hundred of years have passed since the flood.
I think that king Dhapnes is inmortal because he became some kind of sage like princess zelda in OOT.

I seem to be leaning towards the sage theory, here's a few things i'v thought up

1.how can the ToW piece give him immortality when it didn't give tetra's piece didn't give her ancestors immortality

2.however, where is this quote that says only the living can touch the triforce? I thought i remembered something like that too but i haven't seen it.

Originally Posted by Dude above

where is this quote that says only the living can touch the triforce? I thought i remembered something like that too but i haven't seen it.

The Triforce will grant the wishes in the heart and mind of that person as long as he lives.

It was earlier on in the thread, courtesy of Pinecove...

Well, obviously Daphnes can't be dead because of the Triforce...Which sucks, because I think the idea of him being a ghost makes the most sense...

Anyway, no, I don't think he's the king from OoT. Ganondorf was implied to have killed that king.

And Daphnes knew both Fado and Laruto, as he conducted their songs to the Master Sword with the Wind Waker. Since Fado and Laruto weren't in OoT, then a period of time has passed since then, and that means Daphnes couldn't be the king in OoT. He was probably the king during the flood period.

I believe he is the king when the flood occurred... possibly the King that succeeded Ganondorf after OoT, assuming Ganondorf assumed the defunct title 'King' after killing the other king. If WW itself is only 100 years after OoT, who know how many years upon the sea, so the king who was around from the flood would only be 1, 2 max 3 generations from OoT...

Originally Posted by Melchizedek

I believe he is the king when the flood occurred... possibly the King that succeeded Ganondorf after OoT, assuming Ganondorf assumed the defunct title 'King' after killing the other king. If WW itself is only 100 years after OoT, who know how many years upon the sea, so the king who was around from the flood would only be 1, 2 max 3 generations from OoT...

Um, what? Are you speculating if WW comes 100 years after OOT? Or do you actually think that?
Because there is no possible way for that to be true, because of numerous quotes saying the Hero of Time faded into legend, and then Ganon escaped, and then that turned into legend.
It seems too illogical for the whole of the Great Sea to forget the flooding, forget Ganon, and forget Hyrule in a mere 100 years, don't you think?
I believe 1000 years to be more comprehensible.