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Old 11-21-2008, 07:18 PM
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Question A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

1: The colour scheme of his robes is a close match to that of Majora's Mask.

2: He says that he feels the mask's power.

3: He himself has several powers (materializing/dematerializing objects and himself, knowing the song of healing).

I believe that he is a decendant of the tribe that created the mask. Since the tribe sealed Majora inside a mask, I think he sealed people that he met inside the masks that he carries (it would explain why none of them are smiling).
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:42 PM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

i always had my thoughts on the Mask Salesman, but the idea of him harming people? haha hahaha, the masks in his backpack are just masks he makes and sells.

but there's one point on your theory...He could be descendant of the Majora's Mask tribe, but there's nothing to prove it.
Besides the Mask Salesman is a rare mask hunter and collector, so obviously he's always looking for strange masks with powers or abilities.

you don't have to be descendant of certain tribe to know of their culture, he could just know the story of the MM because he was looking for the mask, you know the HMS could just have learned the story of the tribe in his travels.
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Old 11-21-2008, 10:48 PM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

What? Sealed Majora in the mask? No such thing was ever said. All it said was that the mask was used for hexing rituals or something of the sort.
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Old 11-21-2008, 11:07 PM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

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The mask that was stolen from me...It is called Majora's Mask. It is an accursed item from legend that is said to have been used by an ancient tribe in its hexing rituals. It is said that an evil and wicked power is bestowed upon the one who wears that mask. According to legend...the troubles caused by Majora's Mask were so great...the ancient ones, fearing such catastrophe, sealed the mask in shadow forever, preventing its misuse. But now, that tribe from the legend has vanished, so no one really knows the true nature of the mask's power......But I feel it. I went to great lengths to get that legendary mask. When I finally had it...

I could sense the doom of a dark omen brewing. It was that unwelcome feeling that makes your hair stand on end. And now...that imp has it...I am begging you! You must get that mask back quickly or something horrible will happen!
Flaw with this theory: Nowhere does it say that Majora was sealed inside a mask
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:51 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

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Flaw with this theory: Nowhere does it say that Majora was sealed inside a mask
All he says is "no one really knows the true nature of the mask's power".

The four transformation masks in the game work by storing spirits in them which are then temporarily infused into Link when he puts the masks on.

The HMS didn't suspect that there was a spirit inside Majora's Mask because it didn't transform the wearer, it only gave them an evil power. But we learn later on that there is more to the mask than meets the eye.

I believe that Majora's Mask wasn't storing an evil power, but an evil spirit. A different, stronger seal was used on it than a transformation mask so only the spirit's evil energy could infuse itself into the wearer, not the spirit itself. Nobody knew this until the Skull Kid overused the mask's power, broke the seal, and released the spirit of Majora.

Now, one could say that the HMS couldn't have stored random people in his masks, because the song of healing only works on "evil magic and troubled spirits". But if I'm right about the tribe using a different spell that could seal in an evil spirit, who's to say that there aren't other spells that could seal in just about anything?

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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

The Skullkid overused the mask's power?
He broke the seal and released the spirit of Majora?

I say it's purely made up with no proof to support it.
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

^^Yeah, or to quote SVB. stop making fanfics
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:20 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

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The Skullkid overused the mask's power?
He broke the seal and released the spirit of Majora?

I say it's purely made up with no proof to support it.
What other explanation is there for the mask animating itself and fighting against Link at the end

Anyways, I have promised myself that my stay on this forum would only be for a short while, due to my unfortunate internet addiction. I feel that my time has now come, and I therefore now bid y'all goodbye!
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:22 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

It says that it was used for a hexing ritual. It could have a spirit. But it is fanfic to say so.
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Old 11-22-2008, 01:38 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

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I think he sealed people that he met inside the masks that he carries (it would explain why none of them are smiling).
Apart from all else, I am certain that you are mistaken in this. The Mask Salesman uses healing magic to create the transformation masks, he seems to care about the damage that Majora's Mask can create, and at the end of the game he is quoted as saying "Your masks are filled with happiness. That is truly a good happiness". As for being a decendant of that tribe, I wont deny that it is a possibility, but because we have no evidence neither here nor there, it becomes irrelevant.

As for Majora's Mask, we have little Information of it besides what is directly quoted, shown in cutscenes or in gameplay.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:28 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

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What other explanation is there for the mask animating itself and fighting against Link at the end?
The mask eventually gained sentience on its own, ultimately being similar to Pierre and Bonooru the Scarecrows in OOT, or the Butler Door in TWW. We have no reason to believe that a spirit was sealed inside of the mask, and since other objects in the series are sentient when they shouldn't be, the mask could fit into this category.
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Old 11-22-2008, 06:40 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

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1: The colour scheme of his robes is a close match to that of Majora's Mask.

2: He says that he feels the mask's power.

3: He himself has several powers (materializing/dematerializing objects and himself, knowing the song of healing).

I believe that he is a decendant of the tribe that created the mask. Since the tribe sealed Majora inside a mask, I think he sealed people that he met inside the masks that he carries (it would explain why none of them are smiling).
He also knows the Song of Healing. The fact that Skull Kid uses the MM to turn him into the Deku Scrub also says something - pure coincidence that HMS knows how to counter it?

I'm thinking of other things to... Like how he had to leave in 3 days... he knew Termina was going to be destroyed by the moon? Like it was destiny that it would happen?

This is a good theory though. Lately the theories have been good.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:15 AM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

I agree with TK, SoM, and Average Gamer here; Majora's Mask is not a transformation mask and it does not have a spirit sealed in it. It's a living being of its own accord.

If it was a transformation mask, instead of just controlling Skull Kid with its power, it would literally transform him into a different physical entity, as is apparent with the other transformation masks.

I do agree that it's possible for HMS to have a connection to the ancient tribe, but it's hard to say. We don't even know for sure what land, Hyrule or Termina, HMS comes from.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:39 AM
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I agree with TK, SoM, and Average Gamer here; Majora's Mask is not a transformation mask and it does not have a spirit sealed in it. It's a living being of its own accord.
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If it was a transformation mask, instead of just controlling Skull Kid with its power, it would literally transform him into a different physical entity, as is apparent with the other transformation masks.
did the MM did that to the Skull kid?NO,as you pointed out the MM isn't a transformation mask that must means the Mask doesn't have a real soul(like Mikau or Darmani)and thus it wasn't sealed by the song of healing.

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I do agree that it's possible for HMS to have a connection to the ancient tribe, but it's hard to say. We don't even know for sure what land, Hyrule or Termina, HMS comes from.
Actualy we know that the HMS comes from Hyrule, but what we don't know in MM is that if he was born in Hyrule or Termina or any other place for the matter(as he apparentely knows the way through the portal in Lost Woods)
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:41 AM
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That's what I meant by "comes from"...where he originated.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:50 AM
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We don't even know for sure what land, Hyrule or Termina, HMS comes from.
It depends. It looks like that MM cutscene with Skull Kid mugging HMS takes place in the Hyrule Lost Woods as it looks similar to the woods Link is in in the beginning and ending of that game. If Skull kid and HMS are counterparts then it might clear things up a bit. If the boy became a Skull Kid by getting lost in Hyrule's Lost Woods, then I think the boy was from Hyrule. I am not sure a boy from Termina would make his way up to Hyrule, so this would mean the Skull Kid is from Hyrule and HMS is from Termina.
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Old 11-22-2008, 11:58 AM
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Yes, but that's attempting to prove speculation with speculation
If HMS and SK are counterparts then HMS is probably from Termina...ya see? Doesn't really give us anything solid to work with.
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It seems like they are counterparts, judging by the 4 HMS kids inside the moon. And Termina is loaded with masks, HMS most likely got his stuff from there.
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That's what I meant by "comes from"...where he originated.
Oops, sorry i misunderstood.

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Yes, but that's attempting to prove speculation with speculation
If HMS and SK are counterparts then HMS is probably from Termina...ya see? Doesn't really give us anything solid to work with.
backwards, well it is hinted by granny that the skull kid(refered as the Imp in the story)has been in Termina for ages(hundreds of years)that probably makes the SK terminian.
and if the HMS and the SK are counterparts, that makes the Mask Salesman Hyrulean.
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Old 11-22-2008, 12:25 PM
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Re: A theory on the Happy Mask Salesman (in Majora's Mask)...

Doesn't necessarily make him Terminian. Termina's time is implied to progress faster than Hyrule's.
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