The Official Bombers Thread

Originally Posted by Erimgard

After a brief delay, the newest Bombers Article is up!
The Greatest Legend of Zelda Song

After examining Screw Attacks top ten video game songs list, Bombers writer Casey explains his choice for the best Legend of Zelda song.

I like song of healing is a beautiful song, but for me the top 3 of the best songs from Zelda series are:

1.-Serenade of water(from TP).
http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ1RZSEbGfQ

2.-Kakariko villague theme(from ALTTP)
http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=9NFH-wLOGUM

3.-WW intro(not the main theme, the intro/story theme).
http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=ujEZQbBi2Yc

Bonus track
-Clock town(MM).
http://mx.youtube.com/watch?v=dtz-qGWKNOw

Zelda have a lot of beautiful, great and epic songs, the best music in videogames industry.

Big news everyone!

In honor of Ocarina of Time's 10th Anniversary this month, the Bombers are doing something special. Instead of our usual two articles per month, we will be releasing at least four articles this month, and all of them will have a theme relating to Ocarina of Time!

The first of these articles is now up and ready for your eyes. Another masterpiece by Lex it's:
Mysteries in Hyrulean History: The Ancient Line of Sages

Though not exclusively about Ocarina, it follows the line of Sages from that time to the ends of both timelines, explaining their duties, powers, and passing on of leadership.

Keep your eyes on this thread as we'll be posting articles more frequently this month.

Another exellent article by Lex... But I disagree with the sages from ALttP possibly being decended from the ones in TP, as the sages in TP were only six and Zelda had NO conection to being a sage in that game.

I figured that's what happened. I sent an entry to join like six months ago, I think in May, a cleaned up and finalized version of my Fairy theory, and I never received a response. My followups were lost as well.

But no matter, it's in the past and my writing and logic skillz have slightly improved since. Can I resubmit the theory?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

the sages in TP were only six and Zelda had NO conection to being a sage in that game.

The sages in TP are clearly related to the same six from OoT, and Zelda clearly operates separately from them even in OoT. Notice that she's not with the others at the end of the game and doesn't possess a special medallion and is not among the sages depicted in the stained glass in TWW.

Originally Posted by Doran_Bladefist

I figured that's what happened. I sent an entry to join like six months ago, I think in May, a cleaned up and finalized version of my Fairy theory, and I never received a response. My followups were lost as well.

But no matter, it's in the past and my writing and logic skillz have slightly improved since. Can I resubmit the theory?

Make an account at ZI [if you haven't already] and PM any one of the following people with the article:
Me [Erimgard]
Nick
Uncle Meat

The sages in TP are clearly related to the same six from OoT, and Zelda clearly operates separately from them even in OoT. Notice that she's not with the others at the end of the game and doesn't possess a special medallion and is not among the sages depicted in the stained glass in TWW.

Sorry. Mis-clarification. I'm simply saying the SW can't be on the Tp side of the timeline.

New article is up today!
But this is not your ordinary Bombers article, no, we've cooked up something special for you guys in honor of Ocarina Month
For the first time ever, we are releasing a Bombers Debate! A collaborative effort, this article is a debate between me and Lex over the topic of the Split Timeline. More specifically, and a topic that's been discussed here at ZU a lot lately, what point in time did Link return to?
Enjoy the article!
The Debate of Time

Feel free to continue drilling us with questions in the comments section of the article. =D

Nice guys.

I still say my placement is better though. Link returned to a point after he pulled the MS, but before he met Zelda.

While the intro in English merely states that the Hero did not return because he left on another journey, a possible allusion to the events of Majora's Mask, the Hylian text states that he journeyed into the flows of time. This version of the tale seems to refer to Zelda sending Link back in time, an event which happened in the adult ending.

A small note: "journeyed into the flows of time" can still refer to Majora's Mask since Link uses the aid of the Ocarina and Goddess of Time to travel back 3 days repeatedly.

Aye, that's true, which is why I said "a possible allusion".
That said, the Hylian text implies that he never returned from his journeys in the flow of time...not consistent with Majora's Mask, where he's seen it what looks like the Lost Woods in the end, and likely became Hero's Shade.

Could "he never returned from his journeys in the flow of time" mean he returned to the Lost Woods, became the Hero's Shade, but never returned to Hyrule?

Edit: My mistake, the Lost Woods is in Hyrule. I meant maybe he never left the Lost Woods and became the Hero's Shade there, but no one inside or outside of the Woods found out about it.

Today we bring you yet another Bomber's Article for Ocarina of Time's 10th Anniversary. This one is an editorial, not a theory, but it is a Bomber's Article nonetheless.

It's called Zelda Wii to the 4th Dimension: The Player Factor, one of a two-part series by yours truly that discusses what directions a Wii Zelda game might head in. This installment is on the gameplay, the "player factor," and discusses gameplay applications, including general gameplay, items, and gameplay themes.

That was a fantastic piece Lex.

The article was beautifully put together and focused on various key points that I'm sure all of us Zelda fans have considered when thinking of the next Zelda title.

Some of the ideas you mentioned were definately amazing, and the ideas that still lay dormant in players minds are endless. As you said, ideas for the next game are as broad as our minds are.

But what will Nintendo do? Only time will tell I suppose.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Nice guys.

I still say my placement is better though. Link returned to a point after he pulled the MS, but before he met Zelda.

If that's a paradox, which one is it referring to? What is your paradox relying on in the game? Where is Ganondorf in the end of the game? If your placement is better, explain how TP's execution scene works, everything about it.

There's a problem if it relies on the ocarina. He had the ocarina in the past at all times. He gave it to zelda in the future, meaning the future now has the ocarina. He then got sent back in time, so all of the equipment (storywise) that he had at this return point is now with him. If he is returned to before he met zelda, the past has one ocarina, it's with zelda. It's not with link because he was returned to before he received it. If he is returned to after he pulled the sword, zelda shouldn't have an ocarina, but link does. It's not with zelda because she already threw it to him.

If you say both situations are canon, then your theory basically translates to: In the end of the game, Link has an ocarina and he doesn't have one, and Zelda has an ocarina and she doesn't have one.

We've got another article up for your reading pleasure!
Keeping with the Ocarina of Time theme, our newest article by Caseman examines the Ocarina of Time manga which has recently been brought to the United States.

Get his thoughts on the pros and cons of the manga here!

If that's a paradox, which one is it referring to? What is your paradox relying on in the game? Where is Ganondorf in the end of the game? If your placement is better, explain how TP's execution scene works, everything about it.

Not A paradox, but a series of them. It also explains the SoS paradox...

There's a problem if it relies on the ocarina. He had the ocarina in the past at all times. He gave it to zelda in the future, meaning the future now has the ocarina. He then got sent back in time, so all of the equipment (storywise) that he had at this return point is now with him. If he is returned to before he met zelda, the past has one ocarina, it's with zelda. It's not with link because he was returned to before he received it. If he is returned to after he pulled the sword, zelda shouldn't have an ocarina, but link does. It's not with zelda because she already threw it to him.

If you say both situations are canon, then your theory basically translates to: In the end of the game, Link has an ocarina and he doesn't have one, and Zelda has an ocarina and she doesn't have one.

Not if we never had an ocarina to begin with =p

Edit: One hell of an article!

I'm definatly going to look for the manga.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Not A paradox, but a series of them. It also explains the SoS paradox...

Not if we never had an ocarina to begin with =p

Explain. Not that it's possible to actually be returned to "after the MS" but spill it anyway.

[Bursts out from the pits of hell]

Yes, I have returned... And I'm going to continue my hate mongering revenge on the Splittists and Game FAQs, thus all you infidels will pay!

"cough"

No, not really. I really don't have any more remorseful feelings like that, especially since they've been excessively skewed in meaning by others.

I've recently joined the Bombers and have an article for all you kiddies to read: Exposing the Sheikah. Now enjoy!

As a side note:

To those individuals that hold grudges, or any qualms relating to the "Timeline Wars" before Blue Swamp and post events, (especially noting this to the axis of my bane: DrZaius1, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm_PIE, and quick_silver20) please visit my Bomber's Notebook. All your concerns will be answered their... and may it be within all our interest to keep things non political. We can deal without needless upstaging and trolling, for I think that's below all of us at this point. I've turned over a new leaf, and that is all I have to say in regards to the past in these forums. Period.