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Old 08-02-2008, 11:21 PM
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Lightbulb An Alternate look at the timeline.

Ok now this idea may be a little crazy and far'fetched but I thought of something today. If both Oracle games are canon in either order they must both happen right? So if you place the oracles in the AT like most people do there could be 2 AT's. One where it goes OoS-OoA and one where it goes OoA-OoS. Now sometimes it makes sense for it to go LoZ-AoL-OoS-OoA because a Zora finds the master sword. But it makes some sense if you disregard the quote that says the master sword will never be used again in Lttp (Or somethin' like that). So look at it like this


-------tWW-PH-LoZ-AoL-FS-FSA-LTTP-OoA-OoS-LA-tMC
/tWW-PH-LoZ-AoL-OoS-OoA-tMC-FS-FSA-LttP-LA
OoT
\MM-TP

Different things happen in different order to cause either Oracle game to be first in the oracle series. Just a little thought don't think much into it.
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Old 08-02-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

OoS-OoA is the correct order...they're even listed as being released in that order even though they came out the same day.

Even assuming they are interchangable, that wouldn't cause another timeline to be formed. You have the timeline splitting into two WW's, and that's completely unwarranted.
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

relevant....
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Hmm, The official timeline reminds me alot of my original theory. The Rejected Hero of Time.

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Old 08-02-2008, 11:32 PM
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

Not quite a split because it isn't messing with time like in OoT. If OoA goes first it fits nicely next to LTTP but if OoS goes first it fits nicely next to LoZ. Kind of just a thought that just came to my head. But maybe it doesn't "Split" right at WW. Maybe more like.
-----------------FS-FSA-LTTP-OoA-OoS-LA-tMC
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

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-------tWW-PH-LoZ-AoL-FS-FSA-LTTP-OoA-OoS-LA-tMC
What?
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

tMC is close enough to the oracles that Din Farore and Nayru would still be alive in tMC. Same thing with the books. But anyways disregard the timeline shown this thread is just to give an alternate look at the timeline.
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Old 08-03-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

Hum... I believe in AlttP-OoS-OoA-LA. But Past Labrynna is close to TWW and have only 400 between Past and Present Labrynna(In the english version). Well, I Quote the japanese Maku Tree text, who says "Four Hundred Years" but, if have not it in the japanese, AlttP-OoX-LA will be the right placement. We have only to wait....
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

But tMC-FS-FSA...?
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

Why does tMC 'have' to be before FS and FSA?
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Why does tMC 'have' to be before FS and FSA?
Because the Four Sword is CREATED in TMC...

Seriously.. that is basic knowledge.
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Why does tMC 'have' to be before FS and FSA?
Because Minish Cap explains where both Vaati and the Four Sword came from.
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Because the Four Sword is CREATED in TMC...

Seriously.. that is basic knowledge.
Sorry forgot 'bout that lol. Probably shoulda given more thought in that post.
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y and far'fetched but I thought of something today. If both Oracle games are canon in either order they must both happen right?
The oracles have to happen OoS/OoA. They can not happen the other way around. I'll get my quote.......

Edit: here it is.

The Pirates in OoS are dead, so were they in OoA, when they met the queen. Before the evnts of OoX took place, the queen wished the (live) Pirates farewell just before they got stuck in the sea of a thousand storms. In OoS the Pirates have just come out of a storm, are dead or rotted or whatever and are stuck in the island. In OoA the Pirates after seeing the queen while they were dead say that they've been in the Sea of a thousand storms then washed up on a land where a hero helped them.

So this makes sence for OoS-OoA but if we do OoA-OoS then something like this happens...

Pirates say farewell-Pirates get stuck in sea of a thousand storms-Pirates tell of Link helping them-Link helps them.

It doesn't work like that. Hense OoS has to come before OoA.
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The oracles have to happen OoS/OoA. They can not happen the other way around. I'll get my quote.......

Edit: here it is.

The Pirates in OoS are dead, so were they in OoA, when they met the queen. Before the evnts of OoX took place, the queen wished the (live) Pirates farewell just before they got stuck in the sea of a thousand storms. In OoS the Pirates have just come out of a storm, are dead or rotted or whatever and are stuck in the island. In OoA the Pirates after seeing the queen while they were dead say that they've been in the Sea of a thousand storms then washed up on a land where a hero helped them.

So this makes sence for OoS-OoA but if we do OoA-OoS then something like this happens...

Pirates say farewell-Pirates get stuck in sea of a thousand storms-Pirates tell of Link helping them-Link helps them.

It doesn't work like that. Hense OoS has to come before OoA.
Ok but if you play OoS-OoA in the past you meet Rosa. That is an unintended paradox. And if paradoxes can't be canon then that means Link could never have learned the song of storms and beaten the shadow temple. Never managing to defeat Ganon and there being no split. The games are definitly intended to be able to go in either order.
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Re: An Alternate look at the timeline.

Nayru sent her on a vacation through time. She tells you this.

My bad, mixed up the names. Ignore that.
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Nayru sent her on a vacation through time. She tells you this.
That is Ambi...This is pretty basic knowledge.
BTW I am about to land on crescent moon in a linked version of OoA so we will see exactly what she says.
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That is Ambi...This is pretty basic knowledge.
BTW I am about to land on crescent moon in a linked version of OoA so we will see exactly what she says.
IIRC, she just mentions her "date" with Link. This could be due to a Capcom screw up. But check anyway.
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You sure it is in the past where the tokay steal your stuff?
(sorry, I mixed up who Rosa was for a sec.)
Zeldawiki doesn't specify.
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Yep I just got to crescent island and here is what she says
"Hi! Do you remember me?................I'm Rosa! You, like, forgot, we dated?!? This is my first long trip in, like, forever. And I saw some weirdo with this Shovel I had seen before, so I, like, asked if he knew you. Then he, like, got all excited and went leapin' off somewhere. What a weirdo." then she turns around and picks up the shovel amd says "Was that, like, your Shovel? If you don't hang on to it, it could, like, wash out to sea." 'You got your Shovel back!' Then if you talk to her again she says "Actually, the theme of my trip is "the independant woman" so you have to wait for another date." And that is all of it.
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Yep I just got to crescent island and here is what she says
"Hi! Do you remember me?................I'm Rosa! You, like, forgot, we dated?!? This is my first long trip in, like, forever. And I saw some weirdo with this Shovel I had seen before, so I, like, asked if he knew you. Then he, like, got all excited and went leapin' off somewhere. What a weirdo." then she turns around and picks up the shovel amd says "Was that, like, your Shovel? If you don't hang on to it, it could, like, wash out to sea." 'You got your Shovel back!' Then if you talk to her again she says "Actually, the theme of my trip is "the independant woman" so you have to wait for another date." And that is all of it.
Ok. So Capcom screws up alot... However. OoS-OOA has less problems that OoA-OoS.
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