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Old 07-19-2008, 02:37 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

Well considering Link was unable to go to Termina in the AT, you'd simply have to default to it being destroyed.

It's not as if Link had anything to do with the events leading up to the destruction of it.

Termina was already screwed by the SK, well before Link jumped in the fray.
All Link did was give SK a new toy, which largely was totally useless/irrelevant in his hands.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:40 PM
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Well considering Link was unable to go to Termina in the AT, you'd simply have to default to it being destroyed.

It's not as if Link had anything to do with the events leading up to the destruction of it.

Termina was already screwed by the SK, well before Link jumped in the fray.
All Link did was give SK a new toy, which largely was totally useless/irrelevant in his hands.
Link was unable to go to Termina, because he was a little preoccupied. You know, saving the world?
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:46 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

This whole thing is ridiculous. The HMS never left to find the mask therefore Termina was never in danger. GAME OVER!
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:48 PM
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This whole thing is ridiculous. The HMS never left to find the mask therefore Termina was never in danger. GAME OVER!
First of all, why is it ridiculous? And secondly, if the HMS never left, then where is he in the adult half of OoT?
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:50 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

It's ridiculous to him, because it's not what he wants.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:56 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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First of all, why is it ridiculous?
Because Satori or what ever is ignoring why she's wrong when everyone is telling her why.

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And secondly, if the HMS never left, then where is he in the adult half of OoT?
Laying low somewhere like everyone else. He's at the party in the ending so he was still in hyrule.

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It's ridiculous to him, because it's not what he wants.
The only ridiculous one here is you. Your opinion =/= fact. Stop spamming the theorizing section with your half assed assumptions.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

You are the one half assing on defense.

MM retcons some events that occur in OoT, like it or not.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

OK, so, after some considerable time, we know that HMS is not dead, so the Termina destruction of the adult timeline never happens. Does that strengthen my theory? I think it does.
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

HMS could have gotten Majora's Mask before the events of OoT. HMS is in the AT, you see him in the end of the game. There are countless others (npc's) who Link doesn't see in the AT of OoT during gameplay but they are shown to be alive and well.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:00 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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You are the one half assing on defense.

MM retcons some events that occur in OoT, like it or not.
You know what? Your absolutley right. I can't believe I didn't see it. You are the sultan of right and we are all swimming in the sea of wrong. I don't even know if I'm right about this but you know. *pivots body and takes 3 to 5 steps* your stupid just like your father.

If no one gets the refference.... I'll kill you all.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:03 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

Except your theory ignores the effects that the events of MM have on the storyline.

It's existence retcons certain events on the AT, unless the split created two completely different worlds with two varied histories.

For MM to not commit some retconning, means that the CT and AT have different histories prior to OoT.
Think about it.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:07 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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Except your theory ignores the effects that the events of MM have on the storyline.

It's existence retcons certain events on the AT, unless the split created two completely different worlds with two varied histories.

For MM to not commit some retconning, means that the CT and AT have different histories prior to OoT.
Think about it.
a three month history. The skull kid had been causing mischief in Termina for about a month using Majora's mask, so he'd had it for some time, so thats plenty of time for someone to consider the world 'doomed'
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:08 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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Termina was already doomed when Link arrived.
Because the Skull Kid left Hyrule.

He clearly hasn't in the AT; he's still dancing in the forest in the exact same place as he was. Skull Kid would have been destroyed when the moon came down.

There's no need to retcon this because Link goes back in time and creates an alternate history.

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Meaning it was already happening before he pulled the master sword.
Prove it.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:10 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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Except your theory ignores the effects that the events of MM have on the storyline.

It's existence retcons certain events on the AT, unless the split created two completely different worlds with two varied histories.

For MM to not commit some retconning, means that the CT and AT have different histories prior to OoT.
Think about it.
Is this really that hard to ****ing understand?

In the adult timeline Ganon gets the tri-force and conquers hyrule preventing the HMS from getting the mask. In the child timeline the HMS leaves and gets the mask only to get mugged and to find a cursed Link not long after.

It's that ****ing simple.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:13 PM
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Is this really that hard to ****ing understand?

In the adult timeline Ganon gets the tri-force and conquers hyrule preventing the HMS from getting the mask. In the child timeline the HMS leaves and gets the mask only to get mugged and to find a cursed Link not long after.

It's that ****ing simple.
I think she is referring to when the owl says that the whole world of Termina is doomed, which I believe was in the manga, and therefore semicanon.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:15 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

Much anger I sense in you.

You made too many assumptions, try again. You assumed you knew when he acquired the mask, you assumed you knew when the theft took place.

You know none of those things. Try again, only this time, use "In my opinion," or "I think"


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Old 07-19-2008, 03:17 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

I believe that Termina is still intact in the AT because:

1. Skull kid is still dancing in the forest (with the mask you may have sold him).
2. HMS is in the end celebration.

Remember HMS had Majora's Mask stolen from him, he would do all he could to get it back. That all happened in the CT. Since HMS was in the end celebration, he had either gotten the mask back or that event didn't occur at all in the AT.
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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Much anger I sense in you.
You better ****ing believe it.

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You made too many assumptions, try again. You assumed you knew when he acquired the mask, you assumed you knew when the theft took place.
Are you ****ing retarted? YOU ARE DOING THE EXACT SAME THING! You assume he acquired the mask some point before Link went into the future when the evidence points to him getting it after. You assume the theft took place before Link went into the future when the evidence points to it occuring later not long before Link gets cursed.

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You know none of those things. Try again, only this time, use "In my opinion," or "I think"
Follow your own damn advise and maybe I'll listen to what you have to say.

One more thing.

USE THE DAMN QUOTE FEATURE!
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

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I believe that Termina is still intact in the AT because:

1. Skull kid is still dancing in the forest (with the mask you may have sold him).
2. HMS is in the end celebration.

Remember HMS had Majora's Mask stolen from him, he would do all he could to get it back. That all happened in the CT. Since HMS was in the end celebration, he had either gotten the mask back or that event didn't occur at all in the AT.
Which is exactly what I have been saying.
MM doesn't fit neatly unless you either assume things that are not confirmed, or you allow it to retcon certain largely unimportant events.
Developers consistently allow retcons. There is no need to make unwarranted assumptions
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Old 07-19-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: Termina is probably not destroyed in the adult timeline...

Retconning an event that occurs in the CT from the AT doesn't work, which is why we are making assumptions over it.
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