The Great Gerudo migration.

I apologize beforehand if somebody has done a thread stating the exact same things, I searched and couldn't find one.

Are the Gerudo extinct? Or simply in isolation?

1.) The Arbiters Grounds and the Spirit Temple are evidently not the same.
2.) Where is the Desert Colossus exactly?

From now on, I shall refer to this movement as "The Great Gerudo Migration" and I shall explain my reasons as to why I believe they migrated. It's a widely accepted fact that the Gerudo were held in contempt during the events of OoT, and so as a result, I would think that Ganondorf would only reinforce this hatred. Resulting in a mutiny against them. All races, (Hylians, Zora, Gorons and whatever else), then proceed to attack the Gerudo, shortly after the child timeline ending. Unable to cope with this stellar onslaught, the Gerudo then migrate, and move to the Desert Colossus region. (Which you may recall is quite a ***** to reach) as a kind of safe zone, using some powerful black magic, they place a seal upon the entrance, forbidding anything from further entering The Desert Colossus, and anyone who tried would simply die of thirst or simply get lost on the way anyway.

Well I've rambled enough, I just can't get my head around the fact that the Gerudo may be extinct during the events of Twilight Princess.

Don't fear, there will always be Gerudos or tribut-characters to them (like Telma, Jolene, Joanne Astrid)
The developers can bring them back at any time if they want, since nothing suggests that they are extinct. They are just unseen.

According to dialog in TP, Ganondorf was caught with his band of thieves and was arrested, shortly after the child ending in OOT. Also, TP alleges that access to the desert had been lost long ago. I suggest that we are supposed to assume that the Gerudo are still out there, but are now isolated in a part of the desert that we can't get to.

as you can clearly see when you look around the desert there are many miles beyond the boundries of the game. It would be ridiculous to assume that just because they are not in the small area you play in that there gone completley.

Originally Posted by rayburn

as you can clearly see when you look around the desert there are many miles beyond the boundries of the game. It would be ridiculous to assume that just because they are not in the small area you play in that there gone completley.

I based my assumption on the fact that in those vast miles, the desert colossus herself cannot be seen. (not to my knowledge anyway.)

ahh yes...
but if they used black magic to seal it perhaps they could have used it to cloak it as well...that way no one find the place then develope new magic to get into it.

Originally Posted by rayburn

ahh yes...
but if they used black magic to seal it perhaps they could have used it to cloak it as well...that way no one find the place then develope new magic to get into it.

Hmmm...that is possible, I guess I have to take mirages and the like into account as well, seeing as it is a desert.

The gerudo race in general facinates me.
I hope they appear in future games.

veronox if what you say its true ,i wonder if they got another king.

i agree with you rayburn the Gerudo are really interesting and misterious.

I don't know if the Gerudos are extinct, but I highly doubt it. They aren't present in TP as we all know, but there is a lot of evidence around the desert that shows that they might still be around, but in areas that we cannot access in the game. The desert spreads as far as the eye can see and maybe they are in hiding within tunnels or a fortress far away in the desert. But an area that we cannot access.

I would have liked the Gerudos back in TP, but there was just so much in it and I didn't think that the use of Gerudos will be important in anyway. If only they had a piece of the Triforce or that the location of the mirror of Twilight was somewhere deep in their fortress that it was long forgotten.

No offense, but I don't see how this theory would work at all. It can't really be supported, and we don't even go to where the Gerudo live in TP. Link visits the Gerudo Desert. The Gerudo live in the Gerudo Valley.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

No offense, but I don't see how this theory would work at all. It can't really be supported, and we don't even go to where the Gerudo live in TP. Link visits the Gerudo Desert. The Gerudo live in the Gerudo Valley.

^ The Gerudos live next to Gerudo Valley, as well as living alongside the Gerudo desert in OoT as you can remember. But since TP has many landscape changes throughout time, the Gerudos might have changed location, but I highly doubt that the whole race is extinct. Maybe Gerudo's Valley has disappeared overtime. Not all places are still there as we all know it.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

The Gerudos live next to Gerudo Valley, as well as living alongside the Gerudo desert in OoT as you can remember. But since TP has many landscape changes throughout time, the Gerudos might have changed location, but I highly doubt that the whole race is extinct. Maybe Gerudo's Valley has disappeared overtime. Not all places are still there as we all know it.

While the area is called the Gerudo Fortress, it appears to still be within the Gerudo Valley. As a sidenote, the Gerudo lived next to the Haunted Wasteland, though that could just be another name for the Gerudo Desert. I do agree that the Gerudo are probably still around in TP.

There are areas in the Gerudo desert in TP that shows that there were some signs of inhabitants living in the desert a long time ago. Just where you enter the desert from the oasis canon from lake Hylia, there is a ruin made of large bricks with small pillars that still stand. Two of them hold up one of the owl statues and the other a treasure chest. Might this be the very old ruins from the Gerudo fortress from OoT, but was destroyed or forgotten somehow?

And also before you reach Arbitor's Grounds, there is the army of the Bulbins that you must defeat before you gain access to the next temple. They seem to have built a camp there with small tents and wooden pillars and such, but the rest of the area looks far older. There are large bricked walls that look as thought they could be part of the Gerudo fortress of OoT.

But this is where I also believe that they may not be anywhere near the existence of the Gerudo's fortress of OoT. If Arbitor's Grounds is the Spirit temple of OoT, then the Gerudo's fortress should not be anywhere near.

Meh, I'm confused.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

There are areas in the Gerudo desert in TP that shows that there were some signs of inhabitants living in the desert a long time ago. Just where you enter the desert from the oasis canon from lake Hylia, there is a ruin made of large bricks with small pillars that still stand. Two of them hold up one of the owl statues and the other a treasure chest. Might this be the very old ruins from the Gerudo fortress from OoT, but was destroyed or forgotten somehow?

Possibly, but there just isn't enough of the structure left to make any solid observations.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

And also before you reach Arbitor's Grounds, there is the army of the Bulbins that you must defeat before you gain access to the next temple. They seem to have built a camp there with small tents and wooden pillars and such, but the rest of the area looks far older. There are large bricked walls that look as thought they could be part of the Gerudo fortress of OoT.

The Sages say that they have been guarding the Mirror of Twilight since ancient times. It appears that the Mirror of Twilight has always been in the Arbiter's Grounds, so the Arbiter's Grounds is probably as old as the Sages. I doubt that it was near the Gerudo Fortress. Heck, the nearby ruins could have been for the use of the guards instead of the Gerudo.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

The Sages say that they have been guarding the Mirror of Twilight since ancient times. It appears that the Mirror of Twilight has always been in the Arbiter's Grounds, so the Arbiter's Grounds is probably as old as the Sages. I doubt that it was near the Gerudo Fortress. Heck, the nearby ruins could have been for the use of the guards instead of the Gerudo.

^ I see. Yes you could be right, but it doesn't change my personal views that the Gerudos are extinct. Probably dwelling somewhere far out into the desert. An area that Link cannot reach in TP.

Perhaps some of them moved on into more civilized areas such as Hyrule town and might have mixed in with everyone else, forgetting who they once were in history.

Just a thought, nothing more.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

I see. Yes you could be right, but it doesn't change my personal views that the Gerudos are extinct.

I was never trying to. I'm just saying that Link likely never even went near where the Gerudo live or might have once lived. In fact, in the Japanese version of TP, the area is called the Great Desert.