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Old 05-09-2008, 10:07 PM
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Re: Zora to Rito...? What?!

Then where were the Rito in OoT? Death Mountain is Dragon Roost, so where were the Rito?

The only thing I can think of besides the Rito being descended from the Zora is if they were descendants of the Watarara instead. But of course, that can't be since the Watarara are manga-only.

As for it being such a short period of time for evolution, Valoo and/or the Goddesses could've sped it up. Lastly, Medli says the Rito used Grappling Hooks before devloping wings. this means they haven't always had the abilitity to get wings from Valoo's scales.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:30 PM
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Then where were the Rito in OoT? Death Mountain is Dragon Roost, so where were the Rito?
No, no. You misunderstood. I meant that they could have been created sometime in between OoT and WW. Or perhaps they were from another part of the world and migrated to Hyrule for some reason or another.

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As for it being such a short period of time for evolution, Valoo and/or the Goddesses could've sped it up. Lastly, Medli says the Rito used Grappling Hooks before devloping wings. this means they haven't always had the abilitity to get wings from Valoo's scales.
Yeah, the Grappling Hook was a piece of evidence that I ran into that kind of threw a kink in my theory. Especially since the guardians of the Longshot (which is undeniably similar to the Grappling Hook) were the Zora, which suggests that they have at least some attachment to them. I would be able to accept something like Valoo or goddesses speeding it up, but that's just so much speculation. I can only take so much of that before I start to doubt the validity of a theory.
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Old 05-09-2008, 10:46 PM
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Re: Zora to Rito...? What?!

Obviolsy the rito evolved from the zora because hyrule flood.
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Old 05-09-2008, 11:18 PM
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Re: Zora to Rito...? What?!

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Obviolsy the rito evolved from the zora because hyrule flood.
You have obviously misunderstood something, or more likely, not read all of this thread. I go over this in my original freaking post. Why would a water species evolve when their entire world turns into water? Far more likely is that they would flourish. Or, if the waters proved to be too treacherous, they would most likely migrate, rather than evolve. I, personally, believe that the waters were too treacherous and they did migrate (explaining their complete absence), probably too Labrynna. Oh, and even if they did evolve into Rito, not all of them would have. If the Rito truly were the evolved descendants of the Zora, there should still have been some Zora around, because unless a species just has no ability to survive in an environment (which the Zora should have had at least some, considering that its an ocean), at least some of them will stay the way they are and not evolve. But that is not how it is in WW, which leads me to believe that something else happened to them, like migration. I would say that eradication by predation would be an acceptable alternative, except that they recur in games we know are after WW (like PH).
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:02 AM
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Re: Zora to Rito...? What?!

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Source? I haven't heard this, so if you've got some light to shed, find me the interview and I'll believe it.



First of all, take a biology class. Secondly, learn what evolution is before discrediting it. No one ever said that humans evolved from apes (at least no one that knows what they're talking about). What evolution does say is that humans and apes have a common ancestor.

But, I do not want this to turn into a debate on the validity of evolution, so I'm just going to leave it at that. Feel free to respond once, as I have, but please no more than that. I want this to remain a Zora/Rito evolution thread.
We also have a common ancestor with a banana, unless you're an alien infiltrator and you share a common ancestor with broccoli, i mean, broccoli has got to be from another planet
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:11 AM
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We also have a common ancestor with a banana
Considering that everything has a common ancestor, this is true, but

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unless you're an alien infiltrator and you share a common ancestor with broccoli, i mean, broccoli has got to be from another planet
This... is even truer.
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Old 05-10-2008, 04:42 AM
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Considering that everything has a common ancestor, this is true, but



This... is even truer.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:06 AM
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Re: Zora to Rito...? What?!

Fine I am now going to stab you, knock you down, and head shot you!

WW takes place int he adult timeline correct? Zoras domain is frozen, the Zora are on the verge of extinction. The zoras are not gonna leave Zoras domain, its their promised land. The Goddesses are not gonna leave the Zora, they are one of the rew races to remain faithful to them. What do they do? If they are no longer Zoras they they will ahve no reason to stay in Zoras domain. They begin to slowly change the Zoras. Now by the time the great flood happens, we can assume that the Rito are not fully evolved tot he point they are in WW, so they find Death MT. which is unoccupied becuase the Gorons have left to live on the earth, the gorons are not going to live in a mountain with barely any ground on it, the goron need vasts amounts of ground on the surface, so they left to find an island better suited for them. So now the Rito move in, I would say about 100-200 years before WW starts, they use grapling hooks to get around. The Goddesses decide to grant them wings, one one condition, if the World is ever to be in any danger, they are to warn everyone, thus them becomeing post men. so now 100-200 years have past and the rito are evolved to the point that they are in WW, witht he help of the godesses of course.

There Zoras domain in more than a reason to have evolved.

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Old 05-10-2008, 10:15 AM
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WW takes place int he adult timeline correct?
Yes.

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Zoras domain is frozen, the Zora are on the verge of extinction.
Are you suggesting that Ganondorf's magic continued to have effect even after his sealing? While there is no evidence against it, I can't imagine Zora's Domain staying frozen forever. Once Link killed Amorpha and sealed Ganon away, there should have been no reason for it to stay frozen. After it unfroze, there was enough time for the race to revive itself, and when the Great Flood happened they migrated. You may call this mere speculation, but so is most of what you have below:

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The zoras are not gonna leave Zoras domain, its their promised land. The Goddesses are not gonna leave the Zora, they are one of the rew races to remain faithful to them. What do they do? If they are no longer Zoras they they will ahve no reason to stay in Zoras domain. They begin to slowly change the Zoras. Now by the time the great flood happens, we can assume that the Rito are not fully evolved tot he point they are in WW, so they find Death MT. which is unoccupied becuase the Gorons have left to live on the earth, the gorons are not going to live in a mountain with barely any ground on it, the goron need vasts amounts of ground on the surface, so they left to find an island better suited for them. So now the Rito move in, I would say about 100-200 years before WW starts, they use grapling hooks to get around. The Goddesses decide to grant them wings, one one condition, if the World is ever to be in any danger, they are to warn everyone, thus them becomeing post men. so now 100-200 years have past and the rito are evolved to the point that they are in WW, witht he help of the godesses of course.
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...What?
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:22 AM
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Old 05-10-2008, 01:49 PM
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im sorry but i just had to tell to you guys something about ruto and the zoras... THEY ARE THE MOST "F"ING AMAZING CREATURES EVER! i love the zoras.
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Old 05-10-2008, 02:07 PM
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Death Mountain is Dragon Roost
Actually, it's more likely that Goron Island is Death Mountain.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: Zora to Rito...? What?!

PH spoiler:
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Goron Island is in the World of the ocean king therefore it cannot be death mountain.
Anywat I think the primary problem as stated before is the lack of fish. With the sea infested with monsters and without fish to feed them the Zora would move on land to search for food and a way to escape aquatic monsters.
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Old 05-10-2008, 10:44 PM
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PH spoiler:
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Realm of the Ocean King is still on the same plane of existence as flooded Hyrule. It is not another dimension, and not a parallel world, just a far off place. Two most likely candidates are AoL Hyrule and Labrynna, or if they are the same thing, both.

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Anywat I think the primary problem as stated before is the lack of fish. With the sea infested with monsters and without fish to feed them the Zora would move on land to search for food and a way to escape aquatic monsters.
Far more likely that they would migrate before becoming bird-like things. Part of the fact that the Realm of the Ocean King is possibly Labrynna suggests even more that the Zora migrated, rather than evolved, as the next place the friendly ones pop up is... can you guess it, that's right, Labrynna in OoA.
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