FSA is not Post-Flood

[mohammedali]

There seems to be a lot of people who are putting FSA after WW thinking it belongs to a post-flood Hyrule. This makes near to no sense. If we look at the evidence, we see the following:

- FSA is the only game other than OoT to have Kaebora Gaebora in it and mentioned by name. This should suggest a timing similar to OoT - not so much time that a flood occurs, redrains, and a new Hyrule is founded!
- We see Gorons living on Death Mountain just as they did in OoT. Given the species are more or less extinct during WW, and Death Mountain renamed to Dragon Roost Island and taken over by Rito's, it makes no sense putting FSA after WW.
- Gerudos are living in the desert just like they were in OoT. Again, this is a tribe that we don't see in WW, yet are exactly where they were in OoT. The chances of a flood coming inbetween that is almost ludacrus.
- The Zora are in OoT and in FSA too. Yet, in WW we see that they've clearly evolved into the Rito and moved to Death Mountain. Puting WW between the games doesn't seem logical from this standpoint either.
- The Dodongos (including a very large Dodongo) are present in OoT and FSA and not in many other games. This suggests a link between the games closer than other games.
- Deku Scrubs in the Lost Woods is another point. In OoT they are in the Lost Woods and in FSA they're in the Lost Woods. WW does not provide any help to explaining where they go in the flood, nor does it show us how .
... I could go on...

Now, I know it's possible to justify some of the above using random fanfiction. Talking about Zora's evolving and devolving or pretending they never evolved in the first place etc. is naturally what some people will cling to, but seriously, is there any real evidence that FSA is after WW? Because the overwhelming facts strongly suggest a pre-flood placement.

IMO, unless there's a conclusive fact that can not be explained showing FSA must be after WW, it should be clear to even the blind that FSA is pre-flood.

[Erimgard]

Well, where exactly do you propose it fits better?
If you put it on the adult timeline pre-WW, then it conflicts with the WW backstory that says Ganon escaped the seal and no one could stop him.

If you put it on the child timeline, why are the Gerudos detested in OoT, yet not so in FSA?

If you put it pre-OoT, then why does the King trust Ganondorf over his own daughter, and how did Ganondorf escape the Four Sword?

I've believed for quite some time that the Koroks succeed, and this is the Island Hyrule we see in FSA, and FPTRR seems to support this as the islands are getting bigger and closer together, and there are places like Lon Lon Meadow which could eventually become the Lon Lon Ranch of MC/FSA

[dallascowboy927]

Kaebora Gaebora is an ancient sage, we have no idea how old he is at the time of OoT or how long he can stay around.

PH shows Gorons thriving in the Great Sea

Zoras are mentioned by name in PH as well

Dodongos are shown in LoZ (i believe in WW-PH-LoZ-AoL-OoX-TMC-FS-FSA)

Deku Scrubs are in other games (like in OoX and maybe even TMC-FS i cant remember) that i believe to be post-flood, they are more monsters than a race anyway, to explain them youd have to explain several other races of monsters that constantly reappear, also they say in FSA that they love dark areas, thats why they live in the shade of the Lost Woods, so they give their reason for being there.

EDIT: PH also has many Gerudo-esque characters whose race is never specified but who act alot like Gerudos.

Its not illogical if an Island Hyrule is strung together by the Deku Trees, that all of the survivors from these races moved on home and eventually began to thrive and civilize again.

EDIT2: if you have more evidence, please continue.

[Mr. Lexxi Aileron]

Originally Posted by mohammedali

- We see Gorons living on Death Mountain just as they did in OoT. Given the species are more or less extinct during WW, and Death Mountain renamed to Dragon Roost Island and taken over by Rito's, it makes no sense putting FSA after WW.

1) The Gorons are not extinct; we see several of them in PH.
2) Dragon Roost Island is not Death Mountain.

- Gerudos are living in the desert just like they were in OoT. Again, this is a tribe that we don't see in WW, yet are exactly where they were in OoT. The chances of a flood coming inbetween that is almost ludacrus.

Not really. They could have lived on a desert island during the flood era, and they were pirates in Majora's Mask. Tetra references the Forsaken Fortress as once belonging to a gang of pirates they competed with, and in TWW it is Ganondorf the Gerudo King's fortress.

- The Zora are in OoT and in FSA too. Yet, in WW we see that they've clearly evolved into the Rito and moved to Death Mountain. Puting WW between the games doesn't seem logical from this standpoint either.

The types of Zora that are in FSA are in PH.

- The Dodongos (including a very large Dodongo) are present in OoT and FSA and not in many other games. This suggests a link between the games closer than other games.

*cough*TheresaDodongoinPH*cough*

- Deku Scrubs in the Lost Woods is another point. In OoT they are in the Lost Woods and in FSA they're in the Lost Woods. WW does not provide any help to explaining where they go in the flood, nor does it show us how

Nope, but TFPRR shows us the "Deku Forest," which was created by the Deku Tree.

[dallascowboy927]

AH! I thought there was a Dodongo, but i couldnt remember! Thanks Lex! Also agrees: Dragon Roost Island =/= Death Mountain

[bitterlime]

- overwhelming geographic similarities to ALttP (which many place post flood)
- Dark mirror, Twilight mirror conection makes a post TP placement extreamly unlikeley

- apparently no knowledge of the Triforce
- Ganondorf/Ganon not known
-Vaatis presence in the child timeline, only makes sense if tMC is first in the timeline. Which I think is not were it should be, but that's another story.

FSA is the only game other than OoT to have Kaebora Gaebora in it and mentioned by name. This should suggest a timing similar to OoT - not so much time that a flood occurs, redrains, and a new Hyrule is founded!

Being a reincarnation of a sage, we don't know how old he can get or if he might be reincarnated again. Espacially since he is one of those characters that pop up here and there like Malon and Talon. You can't support the timeline by characters, unless they are explicitly stated or strongly hinted to be the same person (e.g Ganondorf in OoT, TP and WW).

- We see Gorons living on Death Mountain just as they did in OoT. Given the species are more or less extinct during WW, and Death Mountain renamed to Dragon Roost Island and taken over by Rito's, it makes no sense putting FSA after WW.

Mountains are the natural enviroment for gorons, if they should return to Hyrule after the flood then it would be only logical to find them on the only mountain there is.
And there are some Gorons in WW which have to come from somewhere, probably an island populated by Gorons, like the one seen in PH.

- Gerudos are living in the desert just like they were in OoT. Again, this is a tribe that we don't see in WW, yet are exactly where they were in OoT. The chances of a flood coming inbetween that is almost ludacrus.

They are stated to be nomads, traveling people.
Also compare them to OoT:
Thieves, that are proud of there horses, own a big stone home and imprisson intruders -><- benevolent guardians of the desert, living in tents that cheerfully great visitors

Interisting is also their different opinion on Ganondorf. And that they don't seem to make their only male child their suprem ruler.

Oh and take a closer look at Astrid, Jolene and Joanne in PH.

- The Zora are in OoT and in FSA too. Yet, in WW we see that they've clearly evolved into the Rito and moved to Death Mountain. Puting WW between the games doesn't seem logical from this standpoint either.

- Zoras are in their "evil" river Zoras/Zolas form, which are at least in my opinion a evolutionary result from the Zoras living in the harsh and brutal great sea.

- The Dodongos (including a very large Dodongo) are present in OoT and FSA and not in many other games. This suggests a link between the games closer than other games.

Dodongos are also in LA, OoX and LoZ, one has to be carefull when using enemies as proof since they are gameplay elements.

- Deku Scrubs in the Lost Woods is another point. In OoT they are in the Lost Woods and in FSA they're in the Lost Woods. WW does not provide any help to explaining where they go in the flood, nor does it show us how .

Dekuscrubs in FSA are hinted to be cursed Humans, Dekuscrubs also say that they are born in the lost woods and that you turn into one of them if you get lost. They also say that they want to turn all woods into lost woods.
And the lost wood in FSA are the former forests of light, which might mean that it's not the same place as in OoT. Woods being "lost" is a common theme in Zelda, and FSA explains that every normal wood can become "lost".

... I could go on...

Please do so

[Mr. Lexxi Aileron]

Originally Posted by bitterlime

Oh and take a closer look at Astrid, Jolene and Joanne in PH.

Astrid actually is a member of the Cobble tribe.

Who, coincidentally, are a race of pyramid-builders, and FSA has a tribe descended from a race of pyramid-builders.

Hmm...

[bitterlime]

Originally Posted by Mr. Lexxi Aileron

Astrid actually is a member of the Cobble tribe.

Who, coincidentally, are a race of pyramid-builders, and FSA has a tribe descended from a race of pyramid-builders.

Hmm...

And so is Zaus, or whatever name the blacksmith had, who strongly resembles OoT Ganondorf.
Are the Gerudo and the Cobble tribe somehow connected?

Oh and good point with the pyramids.

[mohammedali]

Originally Posted by dallascowboy927

Kaebora Gaebora is an ancient sage, we have no idea how old he is at the time of OoT or how long he can stay around.
PH shows Gorons thriving in the Great Sea
Zoras are mentioned by name in PH as well
Dodongos are shown in LoZ (i believe in WW-PH-LoZ-AoL-OoX-TMC-FS-FSA)
Deku Scrubs are in other games (like in OoX and maybe even TMC-FS i cant remember)

So KG who's looking out for Hyrule just happens to pop in for OoT, hides away for hundreds of years whilst Hyrule is flooded and then drained, and then returns at a time where things are spookily just as they were in OoT? OK...
And the Gorons leave a flooded Death Mountain to become traders on the sea, only for Death Mountain to be renamed and taken over by the Rito tribe, then renamed *back* to Death Mountain and then home of the Gorons once again? Right...
The only time Zora's are ever mentioned in PH is by items that were dropped by them in the past (and that's ignoring how real the events of PH were). So no help there.
Dodongos in LoZ has nothing to do with a link to WW.
Deku Scrubs being in other games *excluding* WW suggests that there's less of a link with WW and more of a link with other games.

Now, none of the points you originally made above give any suggestion of why FSA would ever come after WW, but I'm hoping my responce shows how silly it all sounds putting it there.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Well, where exactly do you propose it fits better?
If you put it on the adult timeline pre-WW, then it conflicts with the WW backstory that says Ganon escaped the seal and no one could stop him.

If you put it on the child timeline, why are the Gerudos detested in OoT, yet not so in FSA?

If you put it pre-OoT, then why does the King trust Ganondorf over his own daughter, and how did Ganondorf escape the Four Sword?

Personally, I'd put it after OoT Child, where Ganondorf didn't get to the SR. This would explain why KG is still around, why Ganondorf is still a normal man, and why most of the tribes etc are where they were in OoT.

I've believed for quite some time that the Koroks succeed, and this is the Island Hyrule we see in FSA, and FPTRR seems to support this as the islands are getting bigger and closer together, and there are places like Lon Lon Meadow which could eventually become the Lon Lon Ranch of MC/FSA

Even if we forget for a second that we never see or hear of Hyrule being brought back, and we ignore the King of Red Lions saying that Hyrule is washed away forever, and that we turn a blind eye to the fact that the land after WW is not to be named Hyrule etc. Even after ignoring all these point, the idea of a world so similar to OoT like FSA coming after WW is still proposterous. It's like someone putting the pre-historic era between the Dark Ages and WWII.

[dallascowboy927]

Lol at mohammedali,

Why couldnt Kaepora Gaebora hang around? He's pretty much immortal or constantly being reincarnated
With all this in game "proof" your giving, id think you have more sense than to 'confirm' that DRI is Death Mountain.
Zora's mentioned even by item in PH is significant because of the fact that they are thought to be extinct, how would artifacts from them still be around?
Dodongo in PH
Deku Scrubs are insignificant to the series as they are more monsters than race, as a matter of fact, in OoT they are almost exclusively monsters, in FSA they are more civilized, plus, they say they thrive wherever there is darkness and shade, so they can literally pop up anywhere, not much shade on the sun drenched islands of the great sea, that we've seen anyway.

FSA pre TP makes no sense
why are the gerudos nice after OoT, what happened to OoT Ganondorf, if u believe that he is the same, then why does nobody know about him, how does he become Ganon, be sealed in the FS and then be in place for the TP backstory.

FSA post TP makes no sense either for many of the same reasons. I could think of more conflicts for it pre TP if i wasnt so tired right now, be back later.

[Mr. Lexxi Aileron]

Originally Posted by mohammedali

So KG who's looking out for Hyrule just happens to pop in for OoT, hides away for hundreds of years whilst Hyrule is flooded and then drained, and then returns at a time where things are spookily just as they were in OoT? OK...

Not necessarily.

Malon and Talon and Anju and the Postman, etc. etc. aren't immortal; they just appear throughout the series inexplicably.

And the Gorons leave a flooded Death Mountain to become traders on the sea, only for Death Mountain to be renamed and taken over by the Rito tribe, then renamed *back* to Death Mountain and then home of the Gorons once again? Right...

The Gorons become traders, and live on Goron Island, which is most likely Death Mountain.

The only time Zora's are ever mentioned in PH is by items that were dropped by them in the past (and that's ignoring how real the events of PH were). So no help there.

1) The evil Zoras are enemies in PH.
2) There are no OoT Zoras in FSA.
3) Just because PH takes place in "another world" doesn't mean it takes place in "another dimension" any more than the designation of the Great Sea as the "world above" in TWW means that the Sea is in a different world than Hyrule.

Dodongos in LoZ has nothing to do with a link to WW.

How about a link to PH?

Deku Scrubs being in other games *excluding* WW suggests that there's less of a link with WW and more of a link with other games.

Not really.

FSA suggests that the Deku Scrubs had disappeared and needed to be awakened.

Now, none of the points you originally made above give any suggestion of why FSA would ever come after WW

None of the points you're making are relevant to game placement unless they line up with other facts, which you don't have.

Personally, I'd put it after OoT Child, where Ganondorf didn't get to the SR. This would explain why KG is still around, why Ganondorf is still a normal man, and why most of the tribes etc are where they were in OoT.

But not why the Gerudo aren't renowned for being wicked under Ganondorf's leadership, why no one knows of his exploits (he was a renowned murderer in OoT), and why the benevolent Zoras have apparently lost their homeland to the evil Zoras.

Even if we forget for a second that we never see or hear of Hyrule being brought back

*cough*TFPRR*cough*

and we ignore the King of Red Lions saying that Hyrule is washed away forever

"Wash away this ancient land of Hyrule!"

and that we turn a blind eye to the fact that the land after WW is not to be named Hyrule etc.

"It will not be Hyrule."

Not "you can't name it Hyrule."

Daphnes is remarking that none of their attempts to recreate Hyrule will match the splendour of the holy land of Hyrule.

Even after ignoring all these point, the idea of a world so similar to OoT like FSA coming after WW is still proposterous.

• Death Mountain magically spawned a second peak.
• The Lost Woods are now in the northwest, and the forestlands to the southeast have been partially cut down and replaced with a village.
• Lake Hylia is now at the source of the river instead of at the mouth.
• Kakariko Village has vacated the gorge nestled against Death Mountain and moved nearby the northwestern forest.
• None of the temples from OoT appear in any form in FSA.
• Vaati is the villain at large, and believed to be the King of Darkness.
• The regions of Hyrule are largely divided by water, almost as if each region was once its own island.

So, FSA is close to OoT?

[bitterlime]

Originally Posted by mohammedali

Even if we forget for a second that we never see or hear of Hyrule being brought back, and we ignore the King of Red Lions saying that Hyrule is washed away forever, and that we turn a blind eye to the fact that the land after WW is not to be named Hyrule etc. Even after ignoring all these point, the idea of a world so similar to OoT like FSA coming after WW is still proposterous. It's like someone putting the pre-historic era between the Dark Ages and WWII.

The conceot of a new land is a obvious part of WW's story, being mentioned by Zelda/Tetra and the Dekutree (Although they heve different ideas how to archieve this goal).
Daphnes dies the second after his whish...the Triforce upholds only whishes of living people.
Zelda sure likes the idea of naming the new land Hyrule.

Reincarnation is a common theme in Zelda (others would call it repetitaveness). Ages pass and the world is still medievall/reneisance like, the same people pop up in every game, and so do the same places.
A whole land "resurfacing" from the oceans may sound strange at first, but hey it's a fantasy game and it certainlly fits with the overall theme of the Zelda games.

Originally Posted by Mr. Lexxi Aileron

• Death Mountain magically spawned a second peak.
• The Lost Woods are now in the northwest, and the forestlands to the southeast have been partially cut down and replaced with a village.
• Lake Hylia is now at the source of the river instead of at the mouth.
• Kakariko Village has vacated the gorge nestled against Death Mountain and moved nearby the northwestern forest.
• None of the temples from OoT appear in any form in FSA.
• Vaati is the villain at large, and believed to be the King of Darkness.
• The regions of Hyrule are largely divided by water, almost as if each region was once its own island.

So, FSA is close to OoT?

^ what he said. And were are all our dear friends from OoT? Impa, Nabooru, Darunia, Ruto? All gone, eh? ;_; And Malon and Talon don't even seem to know Link

[mohammedali]

Before continuing, please note the following:
I'm not trying to debate how WW can come between OoT and FSA. With enough fanfiction, you can justify anything... The only thing is that it's all extremely unlikely.

Here's a few points you should be trying to prove instead.
1) Come up with actual evidence that FSA comes after WW. This should not be based on theories like "I think FSA is after aLttP, and I think aLttP is after WW, therefore I've proven it" - That stuff doesn't work at all.
2) Explain why ideas like Gorons, Gerudos etc etc all being displaced then ending up exactly the same place is more logical than the flood coming after (or seperate) to FSA.
3) Just for fun, let's hear what crazy lie you've told yourself so you can ignore the Kings quote in WW that Hyrule is washed away and that a new land will not be Hyrule.

Now, I've respoded to a few more replys for fun, but work on the above, and don't bother persuing the below any further, as it's pointless for us to continue down this track.

Originally Posted by Mr. Lexxi Aileron

1) The Gorons are not extinct; we see several of them in PH.

See my last post.

2) Dragon Roost Island is not Death Mountain.

So the mountain that matches the placement and looks just like Death Mountain is a completely different mountain that magically appeared since OoT... OK... Interesting card to play...

Not really. They could have lived on a desert island during the flood era, and they were pirates in Majora's Mask. Tetra references the Forsaken Fortress as once belonging to a gang of pirates they competed with, and in TWW it is Ganondorf the Gerudo King's fortress.

That's just a bunch of random fanfiction ithough. And it still doesn't explain how they end up more or less where they were pre flood.

The types of Zora that are in FSA are in PH.

But isn't PH a dream?

*cough*TheresaDodongoinPH*cough*

As above.

Nope, but TFPRR shows us the "Deku Forest," which was created by the Deku Tree.

Like the Deku Forest of OoT... Hmmm....

Originally Posted by bitterlime

- overwhelming geographic similarities to ALttP (which many place post flood)

Just because you place it post flood, doesn't mean it's evidence for such a baseless theory.

- Dark mirror, Twilight mirror conection makes a post TP placement extreamly unlikeley

So a pre TP placement would be perfect then.

- apparently no knowledge of the Triforce

Given that the Triforce is never mentioned in TP, does that come after WW too? Thought not.
[QUTOE]- Ganondorf/Ganon not known[/quote]
Like OoT? Seeing the trend?

-Vaatis presence in the child timeline, only makes sense if tMC is first in the timeline. Which I think is not were it should be, but that's another story.

Again, something based on your personal beliefs and ideas. Not backed by anything.

Being a reincarnation of a sage, we don't know how old he can get or if he might be reincarnated again. Espacially since he is one of those characters that pop up here and there like Malon and Talon. You can't support the timeline by characters, unless they are explicitly stated or strongly hinted to be the same person (e.g Ganondorf in OoT, TP and WW).

Fine. So Ganondorf (which you mentioned yourself) shoud be the same in OoT and FSA. It's generally shown that Ganondorf is always the same person, so why would this be any different all of a sudden?

Mountains are the natural enviroment for gorons, if they should return to Hyrule after the flood then it would be only logical to find them on the only mountain there is.
And there are some Gorons in WW which have to come from somewhere, probably an island populated by Gorons, like the one seen in PH.

So what happened to the Rito that occupied the only Mountain there is?

They are stated to be nomads, traveling people.
Also compare them to OoT:
Thieves, that are proud of there horses, own a big stone home and imprisson intruders -><- benevolent guardians of the desert, living in tents that cheerfully great visitors

But there's a critical difference. In OoT they are ruled by Ganondorf. In FSA Ganondorf doesn't make it as the ruler. In OoT, of course they lock intruders - do you think Ganondorf would ask them to welcome people?

Interisting is also their different opinion on Ganondorf. And that they don't seem to make their only male child their suprem ruler.

Look at the quote from FSA:
Gerudo: “Once every 100 years, a special child is born unto my people.
That child is destined to be the mighty guardian of the Gerudo and the desert.
But this child, its heart grew twisted with every passing year.”

So it's clear that Ganondorf was supposed to be the ruler of the Gerudos (just like he was in OoT), but he was clearly rejected due to his twisted heart. This could be a look at what happened when he failed to gain the power of the Triforce in OoT, and the Gerudos rejected him as a leader.

- Zoras are in their "evil" river Zoras/Zolas form, which are at least in my opinion a evolutionary result from the Zoras living in the harsh and brutal great sea.

Again, random fanfic.

Dodongos are also in LA, OoX and LoZ, one has to be carefull when using enemies as proof since they are gameplay elements.

My point was simply that the set up seems remarkably similar to OoT and placing WW in the middle seems counter-intuitive.

[mohammedali]

Originally Posted by dallascowboy927

Why couldnt Kaepora Gaebora hang around? He's pretty much immortal or constantly being reincarnated

As I said before, it's not impossible to justify. It just doesn't seem as likely though. Especially when you add it all together.

With all this in game "proof" your giving, id think you have more sense than to 'confirm' that DRI is Death Mountain.

Be sensible - DRI is heavily suggested to be Death Mountain... unless a new mountain that is in the same place of DM randomly appeared from nowhere.

Zora's mentioned even by item in PH is significant because of the fact that they are thought to be extinct, how would artifacts from them still be around?

Look at Medli's harp. Who's was that? It was an artifact from Laruto... a Zora.

FSA pre TP makes no sense

Why?

why are the gerudos nice after OoT, what happened to OoT Ganondorf, if u believe that he is the same, then why does nobody know about him, how does he become Ganon, be sealed in the FS and then be in place for the TP backstory.

Largely explained in my last post. Point that you're missing though, is that the point of the thread was not to give the final and definate answer to where FSA goes (otherwise I would call the thread "FSA goes here *points*"). I'm just showing why a post flood theory makes very little to no sense.

Originally Posted by Mr. Lexxi Aileron

1) The evil Zoras are enemies in PH.
2) There are no OoT Zoras in FSA.
3) Just because PH takes place in "another world" doesn't mean it takes place in "another dimension" any more than the designation of the Great Sea as the "world above" in TWW means that the Sea is in a different world than Hyrule.

Spoken about above somewhere. Still don't see why a Zora in 'another world' should mean much either.

But not why the Gerudo aren't renowned for being wicked under Ganondorf's leadership, why no one knows of his exploits (he was a renowned murderer in OoT), and why the benevolent Zoras have apparently lost their homeland to the evil Zoras.

See last post.

*cough*TFPRR*cough*

Again... See above.

"Wash away this ancient land of Hyrule!"

Sounds like you're trying to twist words out of meaning here. Still doesn't explain then, why this 'washed away ancient Hyrule' still has ruins (including books and legends etc) by the time of aLttP.

"It will not be Hyrule."
Not "you can't name it Hyrule."
Daphnes is remarking that none of their attempts to recreate Hyrule will match the splendour of the holy land of Hyrule.

You're taking this quote out of context...
TETRA: "The land that will be the next Hyrule! So..."
KING: "Ah, but child... That land will not be Hyrule."
The interjection suggests that the King disagrees with her, and that the land will not be the 'next Hyrule' as she put it.

[*]Death Mountain magically spawned a second peak.

We don't see all of OoT map.

[*]The Lost Woods are now in the northwest, and the forestlands to the southeast have been partially cut down and replaced with a village.

Things like this happen over time (usually without a worldwide flood).

[*]Lake Hylia is now at the source of the river instead of at the mouth.

Yet in aLttP where the map is very similar, it's clearly where we see it in OoT.

[*]Kakariko Village has vacated the gorge nestled against Death Mountain and moved nearby the northwestern forest.[*]None of the temples from OoT appear in any form in FSA.[*]Vaati is the villain at large, and believed to be the King of Darkness.[*]The regions of Hyrule are largely divided by water, almost as if each region was once its own island.

The rest of these points mean little. Simple points such as above are the result of things changing, or things on the OoT that could not be seen before being seen now (such as rivers etc). Theres nothing there that is even remotely convincing.

Originally Posted by bitterlime

The conceot of a new land is a obvious part of WW's story, being mentioned by Zelda/Tetra and the Dekutree (Although they heve different ideas how to archieve this goal).
Daphnes dies the second after his whish...the Triforce upholds only whishes of living people.
Zelda sure likes the idea of naming the new land Hyrule.

But the complete opposite to what you just said is implied. It's clear that the world was flooded and Hyrule washed away. It's clear that the King interjected to Tetra calling the next place the New Hyrule.

Reincarnation is a common theme in Zelda (others would call it repetitaveness). Ages pass and the world is still medievall/reneisance like, the same people pop up in every game, and so do the same places.
A whole land "resurfacing" from the oceans may sound strange at first, but hey it's a fantasy game and it certainlly fits with the overall theme of the Zelda games.

But compare this to the obvious similarities between OoT and FSA in terms of where people are living etc. This should be a no brainer given the overwhelming number of things that would have to 'happen' to go back to OoT days.

[bitterlime]

Originally Posted by mohammedali

Before continuing, please note the following:
I'm not trying to debate how WW can come between OoT and FSA. With enough fanfiction, you can justify anything... The only thing is that it's all extremely unlikely.

I like to hear your fanfictions about how the geography magicly changed and how all people from OoT are suddendly gone or don't remember Link (this includes KP and Talon and Malon)

Here's a few points you should be trying to prove instead.
1) Come up with actual evidence that FSA comes after WW. This should not be based on theories like "I think FSA is after aLttP, and I think aLttP is after WW, therefore I've proven it" - That stuff doesn't work at all.

I think there was allready a lot mentioned in this thread, placing it after TP does not work and paceing it before TP (inbetween OoT and MM I suppose?) does also not work because of the issues that were allready adressed

2) Explain why ideas like Gorons, Gerudos etc etc all being displaced then ending up exactly the same place is more logical than the flood coming after (or seperate) to FSA.

All of the can be explained by natural enviroments, e.g. Gorons are mountain dwellers-> they return to the mountains.

3) Just for fun, let's hear what crazy lie you've told yourself so you can ignore the Kings quote in WW that Hyrule is washed away and that a new land will not be Hyrule.

See above my dear.

So the mountain that matches the placement and looks just like Death Mountain is a completely