LA After MM?

[omega12]

Alright this topic is gonan be short becuase I only really have little to connect this.

Alright well, in MM there is actually a pretty big ocean. In LA Link is sailing. Now we dont have proof that Link after MM went back to hyrule, so couldnt Link after MM have set sail with some crew on the ocean? If Link left Hyrule in the first place there owuld be no reason for him to return backa fter MM, so therefor this is a possiblity. Also, the Owl in OoT, so LA HAS to come after OoT

[rayburn]

I always assumed it was actually. and link doesnt go back to hyrule because he doesnt return to clock town, Only tatl, skull kid, and tael do. The game ends with link heading off to god knows where in the forest so for all we know he could have came across a crew of sorts and set off on the ocean.

[Erimgard]

Tatl tells you to go home, you leave on Epona, and in the credits Link is shown in a place that looks just like the Lost Woods from the start of the game. So no, I doubt he sailed.

Also, for LA to happen, Ganon has to be killed. The Manual specifically says you have killed Ganon, and the people worry that he could rise again from his ashes.
Ganon is not dead on the chlid timeline after MM.

[Daemonius]

The Owl isn't really a good argument, as he is just some kind of guide on the Dreaming Island of the Wind Fish...

In my opinion, it makes the most sense to put LA after ALttP, why? Because LA was obviously made as a "sequel" of ALttP in mind, and there are some things there that only the ALttP Link ecountered like Turtle Rock and Agahnim.

[omega12]

But Ermigard, Child Link did defeat Ganon, so therefor ganon can still be a nightare of Links.

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by omega12

But Ermigard, Child Link did defeat Ganon, so therefor ganon can still be a nightare of Links.

No he didn't.
Ganon was sealed on the Adult Side.
He was never killed on either side of OoT.
And he wasn't even attacked on the child side.

[omega12]

... But Link defeated him as adult link,and got sent back to the Child timeline, all his memorys are still with him, he would remember ganon...

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by omega12

... But Link defeated him as adult link,and got sent back to the Child timeline, all his memorys are still with him, he would remember ganon...

The LA manual says Ganon is dead.
It doesn't matter what Link remembers, Ganon is not dead.

[omega12]

=/ and the back of ALTtP box says it takes place before Zelda, things change witht he more games come out.

... and when has Ganon ever truely been dead? We dont know if he truely did die at the end of ALTtP.

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by omega12

=/ and the back of ALTtP box says it takes place before Zelda, things change witht he more games come out.

Well, that doesn't necessarily have to have changed.
And as far as I know, the GBA version doesn't say that.
I'll check the new LA manual, but I'm pretty sure it still says Ganon is dead.

And yes, he's dead at the end of aLttP. You are told Ganon has to die for you to get the Triforce, and you get the Triforce. Thus, he's dead.

[omega12]

So basicly what you are saying is:

ALTtP > LA > OoX? Meh makes sense to me.

(Im sorry i never had the LA instruction book, i bought the game used 8 years ago)

[Erimgard]

No, I'm saying LA can go anywhere that Ganon is dead really.
However, it fits bests after aLttP.
It doesn't really have to relate to OoX in anyway, though good arguments can be made that it does related to them.
I'm having trouble loading the page with the LA DX Manual, so I'll get back to you on that.

[omega12]

Alright, ill wait.

But there isnt really any other game other than ALTtP where Ganon is flat out dead, exept maby TP, but I'm still not past the 2nd level.

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by omega12

Alright, ill wait.

But there isnt really any other game other than ALTtP where Ganon is flat out dead, exept maby TP, but I'm still not past the 2nd level.

After LoZ/AoL he is dead.
He is brought to life, then killed again in OoX.
He is dead at the end of WW, though we know that leads into PH.

[omega12]

If I recall correctly, after you defeat him dont you just see an animation of him crying and them him dissapearing? Doesnt exactly sound liek death to me, but ill look it up and see what happens.

nvm your right, he is dead.

[Erimgard]

http://zs.ffshrine.org/album/link&#3...z4dx-04-05.jpg
DX manual still says he has to be dead.

[Magic-Tech]

Not to mention Link has to have fought Aghanim for him to appear as a final nightmare.

[Casual Matt]

You know, Zelda.com actually said Link's Awakening took place after Link left Termina. So I try not to fault people too much for thinking it takes place after Majora's Mask, but I really don't think so. Namely because Majora's Mask wasn't even out at the time.

I don't particularly take stuff from websites and such like that as fact, anyway. For me, it has to be stuff stated in the game, on the box, or in the instruction manual.

Also...

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Tatl tells you to go home, you leave on Epona, and in the credits Link is shown in a place that looks just like the Lost Woods from the start of the game. So no, I doubt he sailed.

Also, for LA to happen, Ganon has to be killed. The Manual specifically says you have killed Ganon, and the people worry that he could rise again from his ashes.
Ganon is not dead on the chlid timeline after MM.

Erimgard is very right.

The instruction manual for Link's Awakening stated that Link destroyed Ganon. At this point, Ganon had been destroyed in two games; The Legend of Zelda and A Link to the Past. Most people put Link's Awakening after A Link to the Past for several reasons:

1. The art for Link is essentially identical in both ALttP and LA, suggesting they are the same Link, whereas LoZ Link is a different character.
2. A Link to the Past was the last Zelda game, making it more likely it's what they were talking about when they said Link destroyed Ganon.
3. The Legend of Zelda already had a direct sequel showing that Link stuck around after defeating Ganon, while LA's manual states Link went off to train afterwards.

Originally Posted by omega12

=/ and the back of ALTtP box says it takes place before Zelda, things change witht he more games come out.

I strongly disagree with this statement. I am heartily against the idea that a game's place in the timeline can change once it's been firmly established.

[Tuf Pic]

Originally Posted by Casual Matt

[*]The art for Link is essentially identical in both ALttP and LA, suggesting they are the same Link, whereas LoZ Link is a different character.

That is unless you take BS Zelda to be canon, (which I DO!!!!) In that version of LOZ, ALTTP Link and/or OOT Link stars in the games, and/or the "Heroes of Light, who are the players themselves in Link's world, and in some versions you can even play as Zelda, and rescue Link, or play as Zelda, and rescue *shudders*, yourself!!!!

[TheManInTheMoon]

2 Links looking alike does not mean they are one in the same, thus you can not just state that BS LoZ link must be alttp link or oot link simply because he now has blond hair and a blue shield.

[link4life1432]

in the back story of MM link escaped hyrule to avoid the war between Hyrule and Ganondorf(remember child ending of oot)they tell the king and war starts.Which is why LOZ takes place after LA(no towns cause of hyrule people escaping from hyrule.But link thinks war might be over so he returns home.

[Aralith]

Originally Posted by link4life1432

in the back story of MM link escaped hyrule to avoid the war between Hyrule and Ganondorf(remember child ending of oot)they tell the king and war starts.Which is why LOZ takes place after LA(no towns cause of hyrule people escaping from hyrule.But link thinks war might be over so he returns home.

...No. There is nothing about a war with Ganondorf mentioned on the box, in the manual, or in the game about Link leaving Hyrule because of a war with Ganondorf. There are two reasons why this is very wrong. 1. Why would Link run from an enemy he's already defeated? And this time without the ToP. It makes no sense. 2. The game tells us why he leaves Hyrule. It says he is looking for a long lost friend, and then we hear the sound of a fairy, implying that he is looking for Navi. Also, in the end, the Happy Mask Salesman and Tatl tell Link that he has found what he is looking for, and so he returns. Nothing about Ganondorf. Where did you hear that?

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by link4life1432

in the back story of MM link escaped hyrule to avoid the war between Hyrule and Ganondorf(remember child ending of oot)they tell the king and war starts.Which is why LOZ takes place after LA(no towns cause of hyrule people escaping from hyrule.But link thinks war might be over so he returns home.

Do me a favor:
Watch the Gametrailers timeline, take a deep breath, and shout "EVERYTHING I JUST SAW WAS A LOAD OF CRAP"

Then come back here and have a happy life as ZU theorist

As Aralith said, there was no 'war' while Link was away. Link wouldn't just leave and let Ganon take over. Twilight Princess takes place after Majora's Mask [100+ years after] not LA.
LA cannot happen after MM because its manual says Ganon is dead.

[Aralith]

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Do me a favor:
Watch the Gametrailers timeline, take a deep breath, and shout "EVERYTHING I JUST SAW WAS A LOAD OF CRAP"

Yet another victim of that stupid video. It's really bad, because a lot of people looking to be theorists will look at videos like that to see what other people are saying about it (I know that's how I came across it), and very likely the first thing you see is that load of sh** and think, "Oh, they've got a pretty well supported timeline that seems to fit," when they just ignore, leave out, and for some reason ADD things that totally warps the theorist's mind and perspective.