The Imprisoning War/Ganon Rebirth Dilemma

Originally Posted by Aralith

Because there is still an unexplained Ganon revival, and because there is a hero in OoT which they just failed to mention in ALttP. Now, I know that originally ALttP was intended as a prequel to LoZ/AoL, and then they made OoT as a prequel to that. So if there were only a SNES version of ALttP, I might be able to simply accept it as retcon. But wait! They made a GBA port of ALttP, in which they changed other things to fit in with OoX, but didn't go about mentioning a hero of the IW.

Wind Waker only talks about the hero, and not the sages.
A Link to the Past only talks about the sages and not the hero.
So, if aLttP isn't referring to OoT because it omits part of the story, than WW's backstoy can't be about OoT either.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Wind Waker only talks about the hero, and not the sages.
A Link to the Past only talks about the sages and not the hero.
So, if aLttP isn't referring to OoT because it omits part of the story, than WW's backstoy can't be about OoT either.

Which actually is something I'm a little confused about. I was just playing WW last night, from the beginning, and the backstory said that one day the hero just went away. Yet we know from OoT that the adult ending had Zelda sending Link back, yet in WW they talk of it as though it was an unexplained event that no one knew where the hero had gone or why. This actually made me question WW's placement, or the placement of some other game inbetween WW and OoT.

Similarly, MM talks about his battles with Ganon in OoT, even though it's apparently on another timeline.

Originally Posted by Aralith

Which actually is something I'm a little confused about. I was just playing WW last night, from the beginning, and the backstory said that one day the hero just went away. Yet we know from OoT that the adult ending had Zelda sending Link back, yet in WW they talk of it as though it was an unexplained event that no one knew where the hero had gone or why. This actually made me question WW's placement, or the placement of some other game inbetween WW and OoT.

Only Zelda would know that Link was sent back through time. Anyone else would just think he had left.
And just in case you didn't see, Lex made a big post at the end of page 1, but since we posted at the same time, it started page two just seconds after he posted.

I shall end this: NoA's ALttP backstory is inconsistent and overall WRONG!

"A Link to the Past" Manual Comparison

Here is a fan direct JP-ENG translation of the backstory, hopefully it will show you how dumb NoA used to be and clear up inconsistencies.

Note: I prefer Zethar IIs translation to the other, just me, they say the same things, except the NoA one which adds, subtracts, and changes crucial points regarding chronological orders, the master sword/hero controversies, and Ganon's sealing and overall role in general.

I already showed posted that dallas...or maybe that was in another thread...crap xD
Well at any lengths, the maker of this thread has seen that, and it doesn't change his mind.

Originally Posted by Mr. Lexxi Aileron

I was responding to the theory that FSA Ganondorf is OoT Ganondorf on the child timeline, and saying that it was unlikely.

The other part was an unmatched tag, yes.



Or substitute Ganon from TWW in the Adult Timeline.



This is really irrelevant, as Ganon has to be revived after being killed with the Silver Arrows at least once (OoS/OoA), and has to be revived for LoZ, FSA, and ALttP to even take place.



Yes it does. The original story says the sages needed to find a hero to wield the Master Sword in order to seal away Ganon.



There's no reason why a similar situation can't happen after TWW or LoZ.



TWW also ends with the Triforce being reunited, which needs to happen for both LoZ and ALttP. Whichever comes later can rely on the other to provide the unity of the Triforce, but the one that comes first needs the Triforce to be reunited after OoT.

This doesn't happen in TP.



He's a greedy sumbish, of course he wants power for the sake of power. In OoT he wanted to rule the world, for crying out loud, and unless you seek to make it better (newsflash: he doesn't), the only justification I can think of is so that you can be the most powerful person on earth.



There are also sages in OoT that they failed to mention in TWW.

TWW has nothing to do with the Sacred Realm, though, so why talk about the sages?
ALttP deals almost exclusively with the Sacred Realm, so why talk about the hero? (They do anyway, since they say that "whenever disaster waylays the royal family, a hero will appear," and there was certainly such a disaster in the IW. Put two and two together and this saying doesn't make sense if there was no hero. I know you can point to the flood and say there was no hero there, but that's explained by telling the player he went back in time.)



No, but they did mention that the Triforce was still resting in the Sacred Realm from creation, which can only be true if the IW is at or before OoT.

Okay, I have been convinced by this post to change my timeline, so I will edit that into the first post of my current timeline thread right now.

Edit: Okay, the new timeline is up. You can all check it now if you want to.