Trident of Power - the origin

[MazeMe]

In FSA, Ganon obtains the Trident of Power. Recently, new Japanese translations showed us that the game, when speaking of the Trident, does not refer to Ganon as the ancient demon, but to another demon, that is not present during the main story of the game.
So there has to be an evil demon, one that's much older than FSA.
I believe this creature was once summoned by the Dark Interlopers to control the Triforce. With the great power of the Fused Shadows and the Trident of Power, the monster tried to consume the Triforce.
Why do I think the demon came from the Dark Interlopers? Why do I try to make this connection?

Simple. Because of this video:

YouTube - Zelda Twilight Princess - Hyrule Castle - Part 1

When Midna uses the Fused Shadows, she changes into a demon. She uses a weapon to penetrate the barrier surrounding Hyrule Castle.

Compare that weapon to the Trident of Power:



I think the two are the same.


Here's what I think happened:
When the Interlopers wanted to control the Triforce, they knew they needed some very powerful magic. They created the Fused Shadows. When someone would wear this armor, that person would become an insanely powerful demon, that would have the enchanted Trident of Power as it's weapon.
When the creature was finally summoned to try and consume the Triforce(pretty much the same way like Midna broke the Twilight barrier), the Goddesses showed how strong they were. They sent the Light Spirits to defeat the demon, and split the Fused Shadows in pieces.
But the Trident remained, containing the spirit of the demon...

Japanese text from FSA:
Born from darkness, the demon's evil device, the trident.

The Trident of Power went to a race living in the desert of Hyrule. They made a piramid to protect it. When Ganon came to get the Trident in FSA, he knew part of that super-powerful demon still remained in the weapon. With the power of the demon, Ganon would become a lot stronger.
In TP, Midna makes Ganon turn back to his normal man-form, so he's definately weakened by the power of the Fused Shadows. But Midna uses all of her energy to defeat the pig-Ganon, so when Ganon turns into his man-form, she's vulnerable to his attacks.
The demon is so powerful, that it almost menages to defeat someone carrying the Triforce of Power.

So in short: the 'ancient demon' in FSA isn't the older Ganon, whose soul enters another Ganon through the Trident. The 'ancient demon' is the demon that's formed by the power of the Fused Shadows. Ganon obtains the power of this demon when he gets the Trident of Power.

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Just an idea. Please discuss.

[Hombre de Mundo]

They both wield tridents, that's for sure. However, the Trident of Midna doesn't seem to be a trident made of energy, it's not actually physical.

Ganondorf is actually oftentimes reffered to as a "Demon King" so I can't see the Trident not having belonged to Ganon.

As far as this theory goes, it's possibly but I'd like to see some more evidence than the fact that both Ganon and Midna has a Trident.

[Erimgard]

I place OoX before FSA, and thus, Ganon is still the demon referred to in FSA.
I think it's very possible that the Trident was a creation of the Interlopers though. It was then acquired and given to OoX Ganon, who was a resurrected Demon [as FSA talks about].

I think it's possible that Ganon's soul is now harbored in the Trident, or alternatively, because it once belonged to him, the Demon Ganon seeks out the new owner of the Trident [FSA Ganondorf] and indwells him.

[langford]

To me, the Japanese version sounded like they were trying to call the trident the "devil's pitchfork" or something poetic like that. I don't see anything to really link it to any other game.

[Hombre de Mundo]

Originally Posted by Erimgard

I think it's possible that Ganon's soul is now harbored in the Trident, or alternatively, because it once belonged to him, the Demon Ganon seeks out the new owner of the Trident [FSA Ganondorf] and indwells him.

Myself, I oppose the idea of Ganon's soul being hardbored inside the Trident of Power. If so, I think they should just have anyone find the Trident and become Ganon. But in FSA, Ganondorf found the Trident, I think Ganondorf plays a key role in that. If not, he's only be an unecessary add to FSA.

Originally Posted by Erimgard

I think it's very possible that the Trident was a creation of the Interlopers though

It's possible.

[Erimgard]

Well Hombre, what gets me is that the Trident is specifically said to turn you into the King of Darkness/Evil [can't remember which] which is a term usually reserved for Ganon.

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Hombre de Mundo

Myself, I oppose the idea of Ganon's soul being hardbored inside the Trident of Power. If so, I think they should just have anyone find the Trident and become Ganon. But in FSA, Ganondorf found the Trident, I think Ganondorf plays a key role in that. If not, he's only be an unecessary add to FSA.
It's possible.

i think that you'd have to be a specific person (eg. Ganondorf) or someone destined to wield the triforce of power (ganondorf), would be able to take the trident, like Link is the only person able to take the four sword and master sword

[Hombre de Mundo]

Though the Master Sword is specifically said to make you the Hero of Time. Though only Link can get it.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Adam.

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Hombre de Mundo

Though the Master Sword is specifically said to make you the Hero of Time. Though only Link can get it.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Adam.

^ indeed
the master sword has a shrine for it to stay, so does the four sword, and so does the trident of power, they are alike in that only one person is destined to wield them (generations apart obviously) and they are might not be the same person each time, but these people are alike in courage/power.
now all we need is for zelda to find some legendary equipment (although, you could consider the light arrows being her legendary equipment)
I ninja'd somebody!

[Kilmiz]

Originally Posted by Adam_148

^ indeed
the master sword has a shrine for it to stay, so does the four sword, and so does the trident of power, they are alike in that only one person is destined to wield them (generations apart obviously) and they are might not be the same person each time, but these people are alike in courage/power.
now all we need is for zelda to find some legendary equipment (although, you could consider the light arrows being her legendary equipment)
I ninja'd somebody!

But.. if light arrows are her legendary equipment... but link can use thouse?

could link use the trident of power?

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Kilmiz

But.. if light arrows are her legendary equipment... but link can use thouse?

could link use the trident of power?

i don't know, he might be able to, if he was tempted to, it could be like the harp of ages and rod of seasons and (maybe) book of secrets (i say maybe because that game [oracle of secrets] was scrapped, it featured farore as the oracle). legendary equipment, so link could (in theory) use them all, but its just a case of him wanting to (being tempted to the dark side by the trident)

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by Hombre de Mundo

Though the Master Sword is specifically said to make you the Hero of Time. Though only Link can get it.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Adam.

Which is why I'm more inclined to believe the second option I posted...
That being that Ganon seeks out the person who he will indwell.
Perhaps, much like the fact that only one "worthy of the title hero of time" can pull the master sword, only one "worthy" of being indwelt by Ganon can wield the Trident.

And Adam, keep up the ninja skills

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Which is why I'm more inclined to believe the second option I posted...
That being that Ganon seeks out the person who he will indwell.
Perhaps, much like the fact that only one "worthy of the title hero of time" can pull the master sword, only one "worthy" of being indwelt by Ganon can wield the Trident.

And Adam, keep up the ninja skills

will do

[Kilmiz]

Originally Posted by Adam_148

i don't know, he might be able to, if he was tempted to, it could be like the harp of ages and rod of seasons and (maybe) book of secrets (i say maybe because that game [oracle of secrets] was scrapped, it featured farore as the oracle). legendary equipment, so link could (in theory) use them all, but its just a case of him wanting to (being tempted to the dark side by the trident)

dark side? I think zelda goes the way of "power is neither good or evil, it's how you use it"

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Which is why I'm more inclined to believe the second option I posted...
That being that Ganon seeks out the person who he will indwell.
Perhaps, much like the fact that only one "worthy of the title hero of time" can pull the master sword, only one "worthy" of being indwelt by Ganon can wield the Trident.

I think the trident of power is only one worthy of it's power, by standereds of lust for power. and the "worthy of the title hero of time" is some one with the courage to use it, and that any non-link person that was still as full of courage could use the master sword

[Adam_148]

Originally Posted by Kilmiz

dark side? I think zelda goes the way of "power is neither good or evil, it's how you use it"



I think the trident of power is only one worthy of it's power, by standereds of lust for power. and the "worthy of the title hero of time" is some one with the courage to use it, and that any non-link person that was still as full of courage could use the master sword

Link would have to be tempted if he was to use the trident (and therefore possessed by ganondorf)
i believe that the trident of power (ganondorf) would choose someone who was destined to wield the triforce of power to use it, as i also believe that someone who is destined wielding the triforce of courage (link) would be able to wield the master sword