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Old 04-28-2008, 03:47 PM
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Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

Erimgard's thread made me want everyone's two cents. Is the game a canon part of the timeline? If so, where does it go? It features locations like Death Mountain but the english version translated this as Mount Desma. Oinkers seem to basically be Moblins. So is it Hyrule? More importantly - does it matter?

One other bone of contention. Having played the game through and through and read a few walkthroughs, I'm pretty sure the whole 'universe warping' thing is a myth - it's not in the game, nor is it mentioned.

It DOES imply that rupees are like Force Gems, however - Tingle dies without them and they can be used to fuel magical attacks in the final boss battle.

Discuss.

(Personally I have no idea. It could even be the first game in the timeline for all I know)
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:50 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

I believe all of the "spin-off" games to be canon in the sense that they are real happenings, but most of them are left out because they have no timeline relevance.
However, because of the reference to OoX, the fact that the geography supports a Korok Hyrule, and similar places [Mount Desma, Lon Lon Meadows] I believe it to be important enough to include in a timeline...and I do include it:
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I place it after OoX, and before MC.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

Because Nintendo actually went through the effort to make a game that is Zelda, (just without Zelda & Link in it). I think it's safe to assume that it does fall into the timeline somewhere . . . where? Your guess is as good as mine.
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

I say it's semi-canon. You don't have to include it, but you may.
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Old 04-28-2008, 03:59 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

I'd say it is canon but before Majora's Mask.
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

^ That doesn't make any sense though. The connections with WW and OoX are too big.
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Old 04-28-2008, 04:13 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

The game makes it clear that "Tingle" is a title, not a name, therefore previous Tingles likely existed before FPTRR's one did.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:30 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

I don't know how canonically RR should apply. I doubt if the plot of RR will have any effect on any Zelda game, but Zelda games obviously effect RR. It might be that RR can still be useful as a way of seeing the nature of the objects (such as rupees) in the eyes of the developers.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:39 PM
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I doubt if the plot of RR will have any effect on any Zelda game,
Explaining what tingle is is an effect.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:27 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

If you ask me there's a reason it's never really been discussed.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:54 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

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Explaining what tingle is is an effect.
Not unless he becomes plot related in a game. His cameos aren't really an effect.
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Old 04-28-2008, 07:57 PM
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Not unless he becomes plot related in a game. His cameos aren't really an effect.
His role of deciphering Triforce Charts was plot relevant.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:01 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

Rupees only act as force gems do towards Tingle whose life depends on them.
And:
Mount Desma ( i hear) is said to have used to been called the Mountain of Death
Presence of Lon Lon Meadows
Islands really close together (called continents) hint that the Deku Trees are successful
Subrosians ( translated Salona in EU version, but i believe in japanese are the same) claim to have helped a hero long ago.
Id say semi canon, in that it adds to the timeline and the series, but im not so sure it takes anything away.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:30 PM
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Re: Since it's never REALLY been discussed - Rosy Rupeeland

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His role of deciphering Triforce Charts was plot relevant.
He was useful, but was anything about RR used or mentioned?
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:36 PM
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He was useful, but was anything about RR used or mentioned?
Since it was made after TWW, no.
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Old 04-28-2008, 08:39 PM
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Since it was made after TWW, no.
Then RR could had no conical effect on it. If nothing from RR makes it into a game, then it was irrelevant to it.
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Then RR could had no conical effect on it. If nothing from RR makes it into a game, then it was irrelevant to it.
Lon lon meadows-Lon Lon ranch in FSA connection.
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