Old 04-26-2008, 03:54 PM   #1
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-----MM-TP-LoZ-AoL-[OoA - OoS]
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OoT
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-----TWW-PH-MC-FS-FSA-ALttP-LA-[OoS - OoA]



Reasoning:

OoT - I think it's a little obviouse that OoT is first. It's the first game to introduce Ganondorf. Link doesn't know Zelda. And it has a split at the end. Link opens the door of time and gives Ganondorf access to the sacred realm, where then he touches the Triforce and splits it sending the ToW and ToC to Link, and keeping the ToP for himself. Link then defeats Ganondorf 7 years in the future and seals him away in the sacred realm. Zelda then sends Link back in time to when they first met, creating a split in the timeline.

Child Timeline:
MM - Logical. It is the sequel to Ocarina of Time. It features Kid Link so it would have to be in the CT. This has no real relation to Ganondorf or the main focus of the timeline.

TP - This has been confirmed to come at least 100 years after OoT. Ganondorf is sealed differantly than at the adult end of OoT, this means that when Link returned from the future as Kid Link, he warned the King of Ganondorf and had him put to death. Which then resulted in Ganondorf not dieing and being sealed in the Twilight Realm. Later TP Link stabs Ganondorf through his chest and kills him.

Post TP, Pre LoZ - This is important, but is a bit of a stretch. In the AoL manual it states that the King of Hyrule had obtained the entire Triforce. He kept the ToW and ToP but hid away the ToC. Then the Kings son cast a spell on Prinsess Zelda with the help of a dark wizard puting her into a deep sleep. Most fans belive that this happens pre-OoT. I don't mainly because though it does say that because of the Princess' deep sleep the prince declared that every daughter born into the royal family will be named Zelda. The main problem with it being pre-OoT is that the King writes in the scroll that impa shows Link, that he kept the ToW and ToP but he hid away the ToC. In OoT the whole Triforce is in the sacred realm and is not hidden. but the ToC is not refound until AoL. So how can the ToC be hidden in a temple, and in the sacred realm at the same time? After TP Ganondorfs piece of the Triforce fades from his hand. My speculation on this is that Link obtains the ToP, and already has the ToC, so I'm assuming that he marries Zelda (which is very controversial due to Ilia) and has the whole triforce. They have 2 kids, and Link hides away the ToC. Then Links son puts Links daughter, Zelda, into a deep sleep.

LoZ - This would have to have a new Link and happen hundreds of years later. There is no Ganondorf as he was killed in TP, but Ganon is still there. Ganon does not have a trident (which will make more sense later) but he does have the ToP, which means that Ganon found the ToP after TP Link died. (I belive that Ganon is a seperate part of Ganondorf as a result of the ToP being obtained by an evil heart. Ganondorf is a mortal man with magic and can be killed by the master sword. but Ganon can only be sealed by the master sword and as seen in ALttP and LoZ Ganon can only be killed by silver arrows.) Ganon then kidnaps the new Zelda. the new Link finds the ToW that was split apart by Zelda then kills Ganon with the silver arrows and takes the ToP. He then rescues Zelda and now has the ToP and ToW.

AoL - the sequal to AoL. Link currantly has the ToW, and ToP. He is then set out to awaken the zelda post-TP/pre-LoZ and must find the ToC that TP Link hid away. Link obtains the ToC and makes his wish to awaken the sleeping Zelda. The triforce then returns to the sacred realm as it always does after making a wish.

OoX - The orical seris has the Triforce already complete and in the sacred realm. It fits perfectly after AoL as the Triforce is now complete. Link travels to 2 differant lands that I can't spell and stops the evil there. Ganon is revived by Twinrova, and Link kills him again. (or he seals him away. I have yet to beat the linked game)


Adult timeline:
TWW - this has been comfirmed to come after OoT and is parrallel to TP, therefore there is no real reason to explain it all. the new Link finds the ToC that was split into 8 peices (sounds familiar...Nintendo's getting lazy) Then Ganondorf kidnapps Zelda and Link follows. Ganondorf is able to assemble the Triforce and be owned by Daphnes. King Daphnes makes his wish on the Triforce, which then returns to the sacred realm. Link then stabs Ganondorf in the skull with the Master Sword.

PH - logical. The direct sequel to TWW. Has absolutly no impact on this timeline.

post-PH pre-TMC - Sometime inbetween these games Hyrule defloods or an island grows so big it starts connecting other islands (but that would require alot of volcanic eruptions and alot of time)

TMC - TMC intoduces Vatti who is a vital part of the FS seris. The FS seris' geography seems to be a big landmass with large water areas. most likely from the ocean. TMC also has a referance to "Triumph forks" which are mentioned continuasly by the fish in TWW.

FS - even though it was made first TMC was made to be a prequel to this game. This features Vatti being resealed in the Four Sword

FSA - sequel to FS releasing Vatti (again) and now featuring Ganondorf who is known as "a Demon reborn" New Ganondorf basicly, but still the old Ganon. Ganondorf now obtains the Trident of Power in hopes of recapturing the Triforce. This Ganon is now Blue, and has a Tident in his hand. Link must now free 7 maidens and seals Ganon in the Four Sword.

ALttP - this seems like it would be after FSA. This features Trident Blue Ganon as the main villian. Ganon is trapped in the Dark World (or sacred realm after Ganondorf from OoT touched the Triforce. The reason the sacred realm is fine in the CT is because the Triforce was split by time travel and not by an evil heart.) The triforce is also obtained Pre-ALttP by Ganon. The Triforce was untouched until this Game. a new Link is summoned to help Zelda. Zelda is kidnapped by Ganon, or his alter-ego Agamin (I can't spell his name, but you know who he is), Link then obtains the Master sword frees 7 maidens (Damn it Nintendo. FSA is just a rip off of ALttP :XD) and kills Ganon with the silver arrows. This is why I don't have LoZ and ALttP as Ganon is killed by silver arrows in both of them. there would have to be an unexplained resurrection. Link then obtains the entire Triforce and makes his wish. The Triforce remains where it is as it's already in the sacred realm. I'm not sure what his wish it but since it was a wish by a pure heart the sacred realm is returned to normal.

LA - Sequel to ALttP. Has no impact on this timeline.

OoX - what again? OoX fits after ALttP and AoL as in both games as the Triforce is in the sacred realm. The only problem with OoX being in the AT is that Twinrova is there. They were killed in the adult time of OoT, so they are either new Twinrova's, were revived, or this doesn't fit here.

well that's my theory tell me what you think.

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Old 04-26-2008, 04:57 PM   #2
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Well, for the most part, this is very similar to mine. However, where's Link's Awakening?
Also, you're not suggesting that OoS and OoA happen on different timelines are you? Have some copy pasta from bitterlime!

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1. There is a familiy in Holodrum (Labrynna) that moves to Labrynna (Holodrum) after you beat the game. They leave a shield that they have moved to Labrynna (Holodrum)
This same family recognizes Link in the linked game.
I doubt that normal people can travel trough dimensions...

2. The story of the skull pirates proves that Labrynna and Holodrum are connected by sea ways. Again we meet those characters in both games. The captain recognizes Link, on their second meeting.

3. The mayors of Lyna city and the village in holodrum know each other!

4. There are up to nine characters in OoA(OoS) that give Link a secret that he can tell another person in OoS(OoS).
OoX has to be together.

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Post TP, Pre LoZ - This is important, but is a bit of a stretch. In the AoL manual it states that the King of Hyrule had obtained the entire Triforce. He kept the ToW and ToP but hid away the ToC. Then the Kings son cast a spell on Prinsess Zelda with the help of a dark wizard puting her into a deep sleep. Most fans belive that this happens pre-OoT. I don't mainly because though it does say that because of the Princess' deep sleep the prince declared that every daughter born into the royal family will be named Zelda.
Most fans don't think this has to go at the beginning of the series. I personally do not.

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post-PH pre-TMC - Sometime inbetween these games Hyrule defloods or an island grows so big it starts connecting other islands (but that would require alot of volcanic eruptions and alot of time)
Wouldn't need volcanic eruptions....the Koroks are trying to unite all the islands in WW. If they succeed, then you have MC Hyrule.
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Old 04-26-2008, 05:07 PM   #3
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^ I knew I was forgeting something. thank you.

OoX are together in this. I have in both describtions implied that. in the first one I tell of Ganon being reserected, and in the second I speak of the linked game.

don't worry. OoA and OoS are in the same timeline. they fit in both though so I just keep them there until I decide which one they truely go in.
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Old 04-26-2008, 05:12 PM   #4
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Ah, okay. Well I'd suggest you put them in brackets or something so that people don't think you're suggesting they happen twice.
EDIT: posted something in the wrong thread xD
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I support this as it's basically what my own is... except I have LA in my timeline ;-)
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^ I put it in the describtions...but forgot the main part. thank you.
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Most fans belive that this happens pre-OoT. I don't mainly because though it does say that because of the Princess' deep sleep the prince declared that every daughter born into the royal family will be named Zelda. The main problem with it being pre-OoT is that the King writes in the scroll that impa shows Link, that he kept the ToW and ToP but he hid away the ToC. In OoT the whole Triforce is in the sacred realm and is not hidden. but the ToC is not refound until AoL. So how can the ToC be hidden in a temple, and in the sacred realm at the same time?
Interesting but it could mean the ToC was in link?
and is it just me or is that like the 3rd person who forgot Alttp lol. please don't ask for source I just remember it. :p
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Interesting but it could mean the ToC was in link?
and is it just me or is that like the 3rd person who forgot Alttp lol. please don't ask for source I just remember it. :p
what do you mean exactly?

In AoL Link has to find the ToC, it's in the final dungeon.

I'm a bit confused by your question


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that maybe link (some other link) had ToC and the king thought it was safe and he calls that hiding away the ToC
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Well, this theory is almost identical to my own so I support it.

I put OOX in the Child Timeline after AoL. It makes sense, as Twinrova wasn't killed in the Child Timeline so that would explain how they appear. This evidence alone shows that OOX must be in the Child Timeline, unless you think their death in the Adult Timeline isn't canon for some reason, or you think that Twinrova in OOX is just a cameo. I doubt that they would have been revived between games because I believe that there would be some mention of this.
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First of all, congratulations on producing a good first theory.

Second, my main problem with this theory is that we don't know enough about what happened to the Triforce of Power to say what happened to it with any degree of certainty. We know it faded from his hand, but the triangle itself wasn't left behind like in LoZ, and the mark faded from Link's hand as well earlier in the game when he went into Twilight. If Link was going to obtain it, though, I'm sure we would have seen it.

Thirdly, would you mind posting your theory in the Wiki topic? Please follow the format used by myself and other members when posting there. Thanks.
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After reading this article: http://zelda.vgrc.net/bombers.php?su..._from=&ucat=7&

I've come to the conclusion that if you place aLttP and LoZ-AoL on opposite timelines, then OoX must come after AoL.

In the AoL backstory, the King casts a spell that cause the Triforce symbol to appear on the hand of a chosen one. No such spell is cast in aLttP or the previous games, so OoX can't go immediately after aLttP, unless LoZ-AoL comes before it.
So no matter how you're timeline is constructed, I'd say LoZ-AoL has to be on the same timeline as, and preceding OoX.
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OoT - I think it's a little obviouse that OoT is first. It's the first game to introduce Ganondorf. Link doesn't know Zelda.
The fact that Link and Zelda don't know each other is not a reason to put that game first in the timeline. Of course I agree that OoT is the first game but if you are to make another timeline you can't use that argument to place another game first.
As most people already know there are several Links and Zeldas and just because they do not know each other that doesn't mean that that particular game should be placed first. It simply means that the game introduces a new generation of Link and Zelda.
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