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Old 04-19-2008, 09:08 PM
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Termina and Hyrule

I was playing through MM again, and once again was enjoying the spinning hallway (I am so easily amused. ), when I remembered the line from the manual states Termina is a parallel world, and got an idea.

Nowhere in the manual or game does it say Termina is an alternate universe, but a parallel world. The definition on parallel is two even sides that never meet. So, what if Termina and Hyrule are on the same planet, but said planet is flat, like a coin? The top could have Hyrule, Labbryna, and Holodrum, while the bottom side has Termina and some other lands that are yet to be seen (Certainly it wouldn't be completely flat, there'd be room for all the underground caverns, and Subrosia and stuff...).

In the beginning of Majora's Mask, Link fell down an extremely long hole in Hyrule, and landed in a cavern. At the cavern's end, Link entered a tunnel which twisted upside down, before apparently straightening out. But, what if the tunnel were some way to alter gravity, making you walk upside down in Termina, making it seem you're standing upwards? I know, that last sentence was a bit of a stretch, but still, Termina could work like that.

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Old 04-20-2008, 03:13 AM
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Re: Termina and Hyrule

I could buy this, except for the whole world-being-flat thing. I think it would still be round but the rest I can agree with.
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:44 AM
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Re: Termina and Hyrule

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I was playing through MM again, and once again was enjoying the spinning hallway (I am so easily amused. ), when I remembered the line from the manual states Termina is a parallel world, and got an idea.

Nowhere in the manual or game does it say Termina is an alternate universe, but a parallel world. The definition on parallel is two even sides that never meet. So, what if Termina and Hyrule are on the same planet, but said planet is flat, like a coin? The top could have Hyrule, Labbryna, and Holodrum, while the bottom side has Termina and some other lands that are yet to be seen (Certainly it wouldn't be completely flat, there'd be room for all the underground caverns, and Subrosia and stuff...).

In the beginning of Majora's Mask, Link fell down an extremely long hole in Hyrule, and landed in a cavern. At the cavern's end, Link entered a tunnel which twisted upside down, before apparently straightening out. But, what if the tunnel were some way to alter gravity, making you walk upside down in Termina, making it seem you're standing upwards? I know, that last sentence was a bit of a stretch, but still, Termina could work like that.

Ad for reusing the character models, Nintendo was rushed, because fans wanted a new game. That is fact. Perhaps they reused models to get it out quicker?

the definition of parallel isnt exactly what you said. it could mean 2 places or things existing side-by-side with each other. parallel universes/worlds would live among the same space, but just not mingle with each other. so...i doubt termina and hyrule are flat worlds on opposite ends of each other
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:13 AM
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Wow that's actually very good, but I don't think Termina and Hyrule are flat.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: Termina and Hyrule

There's a flaw with this. If they were flat, then the sun's setting in one world would be rising in the other world. However, the moon has been falling towards Termina, meaning it wasn't rising over Hyrule's skies. As this has been happening for some time, if only because the people were already in a state of panic when Link showed up, surely there would have been, somewhere, a mention to the lack of moon on the other end, even just a, "Haven't you wondered why the moon wasn't rising over Hyrule?" Surely Zelda would have asked Link to ride off to find the moon, not waste time looking for someone.
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Old 04-20-2008, 11:30 AM
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There's a flaw with this. If they were flat, then the sun's setting in one world would be rising in the other world. However, the moon has been falling towards Termina, meaning it wasn't rising over Hyrule's skies. As this has been happening for some time, if only because the people were already in a state of panic when Link showed up, surely there would have been, somewhere, a mention to the lack of moon on the other end, even just a, "Haven't you wondered why the moon wasn't rising over Hyrule?" Surely Zelda would have asked Link to ride off to find the moon, not waste time looking for someone.
Mabye there are two moons.
I accept this theory.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:36 PM
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That just makes things more messed up. The moon over Hyrule quite clearly sets, and then rises over the opposite rim. If there are two moons, there would be a moon perpetually visible in the sky, as there would always be one on either end, and you would have seen two moons in Termina's sky at some point.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Termina and Hyrule

^ or the moon in termina is the moon MM made.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:39 PM
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If it were flat, the sun part would be a given. But, if the second moon is fake, where is the first one? It should be floating over the sky at some point. It doesn't, ever.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:59 PM
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If it were flat, the sun part would be a given. But, if the second moon is fake, where is the first one? It should be floating over the sky at some point. It doesn't, ever.
MM has used its power to make the moon crash into termina, right in the center
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:04 PM
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Re: Termina and Hyrule

That's not really a response to what I'm asking. What I'm trying to point out is that if there's only one moon, there should be some repercussions in Hyrule for the lack thereof. If there's two moons, and one's being used as a bomb, then the other one should be visible over Termina, normally-sized, at night. Neither of these things is even hinted at.

So, how could Termina be the underbelly of Hyrule?
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Old 04-20-2008, 01:06 PM
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we don't know if there weren't any repercussions in Hyrule, you only spent the first couple minutes of the game there
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:09 PM
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u r so wrong person who posted this!
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Old 04-20-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Termina and Hyrule

Wasn't there a globe in Tetra's room in WW? That would suggest Hyrule is not flat, but your theory is a nice idea.
And I don't clearly remember if there is a golbe in tetra's room, has anyone a safefile with easy acces to her room?
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:03 PM
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Yeah, this is a nice idea, although if anyone could prove that Tetra's room has a globe in it, then it kinda disproves the theory. But it is a good theory.
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Old 04-20-2008, 03:47 PM
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Okay, if this theory were true...wouldn't that mean that once the moon hit Termina, Hyrule would blow up as well?

but apparently link doesnt save termina in the adult timeline, and hyrule never blew up...
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Old 04-20-2008, 04:57 PM
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Okay, if this theory were true...wouldn't that mean that once the moon hit Termina, Hyrule would blow up as well?

but apparently link doesnt save termina in the adult timeline, and hyrule never blew up...
No that aint right. I am saying this because if you go to the ranch on the last night you will see anju and her family taking shelter there. So if it is safe there it must be safe in Hyrule. (If Hyrule was under termina).

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Yeah, this is a nice idea, although if anyone could prove that Tetra's room has a globe in it, then it kinda disproves the theory. But it is a good theory.
Coudn't the Globe be of another planet if she did have one?
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Old 04-20-2008, 05:08 PM
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No that aint right. I am saying this because if you go to the ranch on the last night you will see anju and her family taking shelter there. So if it is safe there it must be safe in Hyrule. (If Hyrule was under termina).



Coudn't the Globe be of another planet if she did have one?

it's not safe at Romani ranch...
dude, the moon destoys the entire world.
it's not like romani ranch is magically protected
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Old 04-20-2008, 05:15 PM
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No that aint right. I am saying this because if you go to the ranch on the last night you will see anju and her family taking shelter there. So if it is safe there it must be safe in Hyrule. (If Hyrule was under termina).
It isn't safe in Romani Ranch. All of Termina is destroyed when the moon makes impact. Clock Town, Ikana, Snowhead, Great Bay... All destroyed.

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Coudn't the Globe be of another planet if she did have one?
Why yes it is. It's the home planet of the aliens from MM. They take the cows they steal from Romani Ranch here, and then they plan on using them to make their own brand of cheese, which would be sold in Termina.
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Old 04-20-2008, 06:27 PM
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It isn't safe in Romani Ranch. All of Termina is destroyed when the moon makes impact. Clock Town, Ikana, Snowhead, Great Bay... All destroyed.
Yes. And what did the mayor of Clock Town mean by evacuating if Termina would be destroyed?
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