Twili: Gerudos gone bad?

well, my theory is this:

The interplorers of darkness rebeled against the goddesses, were cursed to be turned into the Twili (italics=stated in TP), and live in the Twilight Realm... right?

well, i say that the interplorers of darkness are the Gerudos and that they are the Twili. The Twili have the same red hair as the Gerudos, Midna wears the same revealing attire as the Gerudos in her true form, and the Mirror of Twilight is located in the Gerudo Desert...

but one contradiction is that Midna is the only female Twili known to us...the rest are clearly male, which contradicts the "definition" of the Gerudo race: a race that is made up entirely of femals, except for the males that are born every 100 years...but that's the only contradiction that i found in the theory so far...

gnaw on that for awhile, exchange ideas, tell me what you think...do your thing

I've seen people suggest this before, but I disagree...mainly because of the male-female ratio.
I tend to think the Twili/interlopers were either:
A previously unmentioned tribe
Sheikah
A mix of various magic users [sheika, gerudo, and others]

I would agree!^_^but i dont think there bad!Midna might be im not really sure!Sorry

I kinda doubt they are the same. I see nothing to sternly prove or disprove it. There is clearly enough room in Zelda to have any number of races that are unrelated to each other, but if they somehow wanted to link them in another game they could.

i doubt that the twili are gerudo's, gerudo's are traditionally bad anyway. if anything, the twili are from an unknown tribe, or the unnamed ancient tribe that created majora's mask, because of the similarities between majora's mask and the fused shadows.

I think the Gerudo's being all female kind of rules out the theory.
Also i think i remember hearing in the game that the Twili were banished not long after the creation of the Triforce.
This may overule them being Gerudo's because i dont think the Gerudo tribe may have existed then.

It sounds resonable,
but I'd still have to say no.

Well! Two things:

1st.-The gerudo are all womans, only one man. In TP we only see one twilli woman and a lot of twilli mens.

2nd.-The ancestors of the twill was banished into the twilli realm before the OOT events, long time ago before link born,in OOT we can see all the gerudo race in gerudo fortress/gerudo dessert.

We don't see the gerudos in TP because theire leader ganondorf was banished into the twiili realm, they hidde like a cowards, like a little puppies without her mom, that's my theory about why we cant see the gerudos in TP.

The way I was understanding it was that he suggested a common set of ancestors between the two. I see no way for their banishment to have happened in between OOT and TP.

smallville boy: Here are two possible reasons there are no Gerudo in TP:

1) They live deeper into the desert. The only buildings we see in the Gerudo Desert is the Arbiters Grounds, and that place was most likely not of Gerudo Property since the sages are in control.

2) The race became extinct due to the Gerudos going to Hyrule to find some partners. Over time, the races got mixed and the full-blood Gerudo disappeared.

How does anyone know these are men, zant and midna are the only ones distinguishable when it comes to gender?

^There is a Twili Royal Family of some sort. If they were Gerudo, Zant would be the only man. If Zant would be the only man, he would be king, don't you think? Gerudo tradition and all, you know.

^^ Good point.
There isn't much to prove the theory, I prefer to think the interlopers were a tribe that may have been connected to the Majoras Mask, or maybe they were just some random tribe that wanted the Triforce's powers.

Another thing: Midna mentions another King of the Twili, who was killed by his greed.
Perhaps this was the king at the time when the tribe attempted to take over the Sacred Realm, because this king had greed for more power. They failed, the tribe was sent to the Twilight Realm and the king was murdered.

How does anyone know these are men, zant and midna are the only ones distinguishable when it comes to gender?

if you do "first-person view" and look at the Twili at the Palace of Twilight, you will see that the bodies are clearly defined as being male

and im quite aware about the contradiction to the theory, i dont need to be reinformed now and again...and again

but one contradiction is that Midna is the only female Twili known to us...the rest are clearly male, which contradicts the "definition" of the Gerudo race: a race that is made up entirely of femals, except for the males that are born every 100 years...but that's the only contradiction that i found in the theory so far...

*LAUGHS*
HAHAHA
I CHOSE THE SECOND ONE
tis true!!
^_____^
hahahaah

I don’t think that the interlopers consisted of Gerudo. I wrote up a theory stating that they were possibly of Shiekah origin Here. Within this theory, Bitterlime came out with a reasonable explanation that is very logical.

Originally Posted by bitterlime

Okay, here is my personal guess about the Twili.

I think the tribe that has the most potential to be conected to the Twili are the Zuna...
Yeah the Zuna, never heard of them? Okay I don't blame anyone, they only appeared in FSA and there village was so small you could pass it in 5 seconds.

These are the zuna people:




And these are the Twili:

Guess what, I didn't find a single picture of the uncursed Twili..:/

Well never mind, I only wanted to outline some physical similarities:
-They have similar bodyshapes
-greenish skin
-they feature similar high pitched but soft voices
-They a have a similar clothing style
-They share dark markings under their eyes

But there is more then these physical similarities:

FSA talks about a dark tribe that tried to invade Hyrule and was sealed in a Mirror.
The Zuna tell us that their ancestors built the Pyramids in the desert. Said pyramids hold and evil artifact, namely the trident of power, created by an evil/dark tribe.
It's not proven but I find it very likley that the Zuna and the Twili share their ancestors.

Anyway back to the Sheika -> Twili thing:

This is the back of Midnas helmet


There it is again the eye-symbol, but as others have allready said the eyesymbol is not a Sheikah only symbol.

I personally doubt that the "dark interlopers" were a single race.
The Twili feature the typical gerudo hair (bright orange) and snakes seem to be their royal symbol (almost everything Twili related has snakes on it), the only other race that has connections with snakes are the Gerudo (spirit Temple and arbiters ground statues).
The Gerudo are also the only race that has been actually seen preforming black magic.

My personal guess is that the interlopers were either the Zuna's ancestors or a multiracial group of renegades.
Both the Sheikah and the Gerudo share similarities with the Twili. Both of them seem to be able to preform black magic.
But wait Lanayru shows us three dark figures as a representation of the Twili ancestors. Does each Dark Link represent a different race? If that should be the case, who is the third race?
They have to be able to interbreed with Sheikah and Gerudo and are probably also skilled in magic. There is only one race left, that meets those conditions, the Hylians.

So the Twili ancestors could be a Gerudo, Sheikah (and Hylian?) mix.

With all the evidence at hand I would have to say the most likely candidate for the original race/races of the Interlopers/Twili would be:
The Zuna.
A Mixed group from many races.
The Shiekah.
I sway towards the shikah becuase for me it is most logical for reasons stated in my Theories thread.

woah...i would never have started this thread if i had played FSA...that information on the Zuna makes me think that the Twili aren't Gerudo...they were previously Zuna! OMG! and that means that FSA would have to come before TP in the timeline..................................O.o

(did ya notice? two theories started in one post) ^_^ and yes, i am aware that i am contradicting my own theory, but i just needed that bit of information from FSA to be convinced that the Twili were once Zuna

Originally Posted by Zora Link

OMG! and that means that FSA would have to come before TP in the timeline..................................O.o

Not really.
It could be that not all of the Zuna are bad. Only the Zuna who practiced evil magic and became known as the dark interlopers were banished.

or the dark interlopers could be a mix of Zuna, Gerudo, Shiekah, etc

Originally Posted by Erimgard

Not really.
It could be that not all of the Zuna are bad. Only the Zuna who practiced evil magic and became known as the dark interlopers were banished.

or the dark interlopers could be a mix of Zuna, Gerudo, Shiekah, etc

i agree

so not all the "ex-twili" (which ever tribe or race of tribes) were banished, meaning that some should still be around? hey...not being serious at ALL, but what if the Kokiri were the Twili? LOL