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Old 01-22-2008, 10:52 AM
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My timeline-tWW in Adult Timeline? Am I crazy? You decide!

Here's my theory.
-------------MM--ALttP--LA--LoZ--AoL
Child Timeline/
---tMC--OoT
Adult Timeline\
--------------tWW/PH--FS/FSA--TP--OoX

My Reasoning
tMC-Everything OK here, not an uncommon opening

OoT-Obvious

Adult Timeline
tWW/PH-My reasoning behind this is, they refer to OoT Link as the Hero of Time, but in the Child Timeline, he didn't travel through time, and would not be the Hero of Time. Also, this would explain OoT Link's absence, as he was sent back to his own time. More Support-The statue of Link in Hyrule Castle is of Adult Link. Afterwords, New Hyrule is found.

FS/FSA-Between these games and tWW/PH, I am assuming that a fish (Like Jabun) swam down and retreived the Master Sword, freeing Ganondorf's Spirit, which manifests itself as the Trident of Power. Someone takes the Trident, and gets possessed by Ganondorf. Ganon is created. After these games, Ganon transforms back into Ganondorf.

TP-Pretty logical placement

Link's Crossbow Training-What?!?! For completeness' sake, I'm just including this here.

OoX-Link receives a call from the Triforce. Twinrova ressurects Ganon's body, but not his mind, and he is defeated.

Child Timeline
MM-Duh

ALttP-After returning from Termina, Link finds that hundreds of years have passed in Hyrule, and he has to prove himself to the Goddesses again.

LA-Fairly normal position for LA. Link's raft drifts back to Hyrule.

LoZ-Link lost all his equipment in the shipwreck, and has togather it again.

AoL-No surprises here.

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Old 01-22-2008, 11:19 AM
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Re: My timeline-tWW in Adult Timeline? Am I crazy? You decide!

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Here's my theory.
-------------MM--ALttP--LA--LoZ--AoL
Child Timeline/
---tMC--OoT
Adult Timeline\
--------------tWW/PH--FS/FSA--TP--OoX
Usually, people place Adult Timeline on the top, and child timeline on the bottom. Not there's anything wrong with this one, I'm just saying





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My Reasoning
tMC-Everything OK here, not an uncommon opening
True, it isn't. However, tMC has much more evidence for being placed after PH, along with the other FS games. Such evidence include:

Hyrule being portrayed as an island
Golden Forks refference
Goron Merchant - Wind Waker style!



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FS/FSA-Between these games and tWW/PH, I am assuming that a fish (Like Jabun) swam down and retreived the Master Sword, freeing Ganondorf's Spirit, which manifests itself as the Trident of Power. Someone takes the Trident, and gets possessed by Ganondorf. Ganon is created. After these games, Ganon transforms back into Ganondorf.
Ganondorf got a sword through his head. Without the Triforce of Power, I can't see him survive. In FSA, Ganondorf is reborn, finds the Trident and becomes blue Ganon. Whether he's the same Ganondorf as OoT Ganondorf is quite impossible to tell. But you may guess


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TP-Pretty logical placement
...No. Why isn't TP after MM? That'd been a logical placement.


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Child Timeline
MM-Duh
I like your reasoning

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ALttP-After returning from Termina, Link finds that hundreds of years have passed in Hyrule, and he has to prove himself to the Goddesses again.
Can't see them being the same Link, since ALttP Link has an uncle and no Triforce.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:23 AM
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tMC-Everything OK here, not an uncommon opening
Except MC is not first, seeing as how the Four Sword would not likely be left out of stories when it has so much importance.



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OoT-Obvious

Adult Timeline
tWW/PH-My reasoning behind this is, they refer to OoT Link as the Hero of Time, but in the Child Timeline, he didn't travel through time, and would not be the Hero of Time. Also, this would explain OoT Link's absence, as he was sent back to his own time. More Support-The statue of Link in Hyrule Castle is of Adult Link. Afterwords, New Hyrule is found.
Actually, everyone agrees with that.

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FS/FSA-Between these games and tWW/PH, I am assuming that a fish (Like Jabun) swam down and retreived the Master Sword, freeing Ganondorf's Spirit, which manifests itself as the Trident of Power. Someone takes the Trident, and gets possessed by Ganondorf. Ganon is created. After these games, Ganon transforms back into Ganondorf.
That makes sense, except for Ganon turning back to Ganondorf.

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TP-Pretty logical placement

OoX-Link receives a call from the Triforce. Twinrova ressurects Ganon's body, but not his mind, and he is defeated.
Actually, TP cannot take place in the same timeline as tWW, it takes place in the Child timeline. OoX placement can work though, as it works almost anywhere, though it works best after the NES games.

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Child Timeline
MM-Duh

ALttP-After returning from Termina, Link finds that hundreds of years have passed in Hyrule, and he has to prove himself to the Goddesses again.
Er, wot? aLttP Link was a whole new Link, considering this one had an uncle.

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LA-Fairly normal position for LA. Link's raft drifts back to Hyrule.

LoZ-Link lost all his equipment in the shipwreck, and has togather it again.

AoL-No surprises here.
Actually, LoZ showed a split triforce, and aLttp showed a complete one, so they couldn't take place immediately after one another.

Otherwise, good job!
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:30 AM
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Actually, LoZ showed a split triforce, and aLttp showed a complete one, so they couldn't take place immediately after one another.
Unless, you know, the manual of AoL speaks truth. The King decided to split the triforce or whatever, hid ToC, while ToW and ToP stayed with the royal family. Then Ganon showed up again, snagged the ToP etc.

While I don't agree with this, it's not impossible, now is it?
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It IS POSSIBLE for Link to be part-Kokiri, maybe not in the mainstream realities, but in side-realities, which I will still visit, and like better than the mainstream one, and who knows: maybe I'll convince Nintendo to let me do some Zelda mangas that would summon up the archetype of the "Kokiri-Link", and make it real (and all of my other theories), in THOSE REALITIES!!!!
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:34 AM
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Re: My timeline-tWW in Adult Timeline? Am I crazy? You decide!

My reasoning behind the uncle-He's a kid wandering homeless in Hyrule. Someone is kind enough to take him in, and voila! An uncle, not related to you.

Triforceless Link in ALttP- in the cild timeline, The Hero of Time is Triforceless, otherwise there would be 2 ToC's

And I thought the Child Timeline was usually on top, as I have seen it several places.
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...No. Why isn't TP after MM? That'd been a logical placement.
In my theory, New Ganon transforms into Ganondorf after FS/FSA
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Ganondorf got a sword through his head. Without the Triforce of Power, I can't see him survive.
Point aken, but I'm saying only his spirit survives. In other words, he becomes a ghost
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Hyrule being portrayed as an island
Golden Forks refference
Where are these? Been a while since I played
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:40 AM
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Where are these? Been a while since I played
Somewhere in the Castle Town Library is a spoof reference to the Triumph Forks. Also, when you are flying aound on the Gyorg Pair (Palace of Winds boss) it's hard not to notice that you are flying over an ocean.
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:44 AM
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:46 AM
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My reasoning behind the uncle-He's a kid wandering homeless in Hyrule. Someone is kind enough to take him in, and voila! An uncle, not related to you.

Triforceless Link in ALttP- in the cild timeline, The Hero of Time is Triforceless, otherwise there would be 2 ToC's
Oh, rly? (3.45)

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In my theory, New Ganon transforms into Ganondorf after FS/FSA
TP is pretty tied to OoT, featuring a similiar map, same races at same places, Temple of Time, OoT and MM songs, etc. And as TP comes after MM, ALttP can't feature the same Link as in OoT.

In fact, ALttP should take place after FSA. Why is this, you might ask? Well, almost the exact same map, birth of Blue Ganon, Broken Four Sword (in which he was sealed in FSA) in ALttP remake, thieves' hideout in Kakariko Village...

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Point aken, but I'm saying only his spirit survives. In other words, he becomes a ghost
I suppose that could work.

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Where are these? Been a while since I played
Well... I think the Golden Forks refference is in a book at the library and the merchant is in the town plaza. When you're in the sky, you see an ocean and small islands down below. I can't find a screenshot right now.
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It IS POSSIBLE for Link to be part-Kokiri, maybe not in the mainstream realities, but in side-realities, which I will still visit, and like better than the mainstream one, and who knows: maybe I'll convince Nintendo to let me do some Zelda mangas that would summon up the archetype of the "Kokiri-Link", and make it real (and all of my other theories), in THOSE REALITIES!!!!
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Old 01-22-2008, 11:50 AM
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Re: My timeline-tWW in Adult Timeline? Am I crazy? You decide!

OK, and I'm still not entirely clear on what you're saying about TP being after MM.

And my internet is so slow that I can't watch YouTube, so can you tell me what your point is?
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Old 01-22-2008, 12:08 PM
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^ Sure thing. The video shows kid Link with the Triforce of Courage at the end of Ocarina of Time. So he certainly has it in the Child Timeline. This doesn't mean there are two of them, though. The Triforce probably ignores the laws of time.

I'll try to explain the TP part a bit better:

After MM, Link goes back to Hyrule and keeps being a hero. What he did is unclear, but since people in Hyrule speak of an old hero, and that hero having kokiri outfit (you got the old Hero's clothes in TP, remember?).

The skeleton warrior called the Hero's Shade (I think) is most likely that hero (OoT Link, Hero of Time). Not only because of his name, but also because he seems to share a bond with TP Link (his ancestor, most likely. That would explain how TP got the triforce of courage. He inherited it). Then the Hero's Shade teches TP Link some OoT and MM songs, which only the Hero of Time could've learned.

Ganondorf in TP was known as a thief from Gerudo Desert, as he was in OoT. He is never mentioned as a king of evil or the like, so I can't see him being FSA Ganondorf.

More proof for TP being after OoT in the Child Timeline (therefore after MM as well) includes similiar geography and state of the races and the Temple of Time.

Hope that helps
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OK, and I'm still not entirely clear on what you're saying about TP being after MM.

And my internet is so slow that I can't watch YouTube, so can you tell me what your point is?
He's saying that MM comes directly after OoT (It's kind of a 'Duh') and TP seems to come a bit after OoT, but not directly. How can TP come be before MM when it comes farther after OoT then MM does?

Link has the Triforce on the back of his hand!
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Old 01-22-2008, 03:42 PM
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Re: My timeline-tWW in Adult Timeline? Am I crazy? You decide!

Your timeline makes sense, but vaguely. There's a lot more evidence for some more common timelines than there is for this one. For example, TP makes sense where you have it, but not as much as it would between MM and LoZ.

I guess what I'm saying is that you've found a timeline that makes sense, but there are other timelines that make sense too, and they have more support.
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