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Old 01-16-2008, 08:46 AM
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Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

So, lets forget about time-lines for just a second, if it contradicts anything in this, and have a open mind about it...

Note - Not exactly a debate on water previous terms, but opening new theories...



Quite a while ago I noticed this...
Which I'm pretty sure a lot of you have seen this before too.

Notice the giant Octorok imprint in Colossus desert...
Could of it been a fossil of dead giant Octorok? Could of been!

If so, how the heck did it get all the way out there?
Its not rare to hear stories about tropical water filled locations ( not in zelda )
becoming dried up over time, and becoming a waste land...

Maybe this could be the same case for this!

Of course, I'm sure this was just put in the game for sheer fun, and thinking nothing of it, but hell, this is what theorizing is all about, over looking into things.

Got any ideas or theories branching off this? Could of That cursed land been a tropical bounty before hand?

Who knows...
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

I allways wondered about that. Check out the map of FSA it happens to have a oasis in that part of the desert.

http://www.freewebs.com/3zeldafans/a...0fsa%20map.bmp
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:05 AM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

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I allways wondered about that. Check out the map of FSA it happens to have a oasis in that part of the desert.

http://www.freewebs.com/3zeldafans/a...0fsa%20map.bmp
My goodness! So there is! although, nothing else seems to link it up much... But still!
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Well in the Dark World it's a swamp, so it isn't that far fetched.

Though I used to think it was made to resemble the Nazca Lines.
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:44 AM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

water in a no mans land...amazing
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:04 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Quite interesting. I never even noticed the octorock imprint before.
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:08 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

I believe, scientifically, that every desert was once an ocean or some sort of body of water.

Plus those maps seem to match up kinda well.
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Old 01-16-2008, 12:13 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Well, there are other points that may back up your theory that the desert used to be a large area containing water.

1. The area of the entrance is on a higher platform that of the 'lower' level where the water would be situated providing a defence to this temple.

2. Look at the statues of the entrances, they have similar qualities of the Octorok that you also provided us with an image. This would support your theory that it was inhibited by those creatures.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:36 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Great Flood lore already pseudo-referenced in ALttP (whose creation story already was a huge nod to the Bible in its form, by the by)?

Just a thought.
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Old 01-16-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

In the older games Octoroks were land based creatures. In ALttP there are no water based octoroks.

So why would a giant octorok be an indication that the desert was under water, when water based octoroks weren't introducd until OoT?

On the other hand, it may be a reference to OoT, since OoT was originally supposed to be ALttP's prequel. And Lake Hylia was in the southwestern point of the map in OoT.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

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I believe, scientifically, that every desert was once an ocean or some sort of body of water
You believe correctly then, as many deserts used to have tropical climates.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:19 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

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In the older games Octoroks were land based creatures. In ALttP there are no water based octoroks.

So why would a giant octorok be an indication that the desert was under water, when water based octoroks weren't introducd until OoT?

On the other hand, it may be a reference to OoT, since OoT was originally supposed to be ALttP's prequel. And Lake Hylia was in the southwestern point of the map in OoT.
I had that in mind, but I'm just having a bit of fun!
Either, lets just pretend Octorok, being pretty much similar to an Octopus,
which is a sea like creature, lets just work on that.

But point taken!

I'm quite proud this theory has sparked some intrest!

Credit to Aeffles and Samus Aran, both valid and intresting points!

This brings me to question... Would it be just geographically dried up?
Or can we question some sort of 'curse' upon the land?
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:22 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Yeah, I noticed it years ago, but I guess I never really gave much thought as to why an octorok imprint would be in a desert.
I agree that it had to have been filled with water at one time
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:23 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Most deserts today where once oceans so it could also happen in Zelda. Weather or not it is true I am unsure but I think it could of been. Though the programers likly did not make a ocean then dry it up to make that area in the game, it could of inspired them to make WW, ect.
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Old 01-16-2008, 03:24 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Octorocks have evolved to land creatures(at least I think), that makes it a valid theory to me.
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Old 01-16-2008, 09:44 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

have a simple explanation for how the Giant Oktorok got to the desert. When you kill it in TWW, it isn't dead when it goes underwater. It probably swam for awhile and then died out there.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:37 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Thats not the Desert Collosus! The desrt Colossus is the big statue in in OOT! Get it right!

Ok, now that thats overwith, I'd just like to point out that in the 2D games Octorok live on land, so there doesn't need to be water for a giant octorok fossil.
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

Generally speaking though, fossils are caused by intense amounts of pressure for an extended period of time....such as a flood
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Old 01-17-2008, 04:53 PM
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Re: Was there water previously in Colossus Desert?

An if OoT is the first game than Octorok were originally waterbased creatures who evolved into land living ones. Also is there a relationship between Octoroks and deku scrubs? seems they are similar in offensive style
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Old 01-17-2008, 05:25 PM
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Thats not the Desert Collosus! The desrt Colossus is the big statue in in OOT! Get it right!
je-sus, don't get your fanny in a twist. 'The Desert' then.

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Ok, now that thats overwith, I'd just like to point out that in the 2D games Octorok live on land, so there doesn't need to be water for a giant octorok fossil.
I've already stated I'm aware of Octoroks being land based creatures.
I'm doing this simply as fun like any time line theorist might...

Octorok - Octopus - Water.
That's all you need to assume.

Hell, the might even be amphibians and need to locate near water.

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