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Old 01-03-2008, 04:59 PM
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Re: The Double ALttP Theory

^ As stated earlier I think my assumptions are pretty fair, don't you?

And about the towns... what did Mido ever do to get a town named after him, hmm?

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That they found a new hyrule is pretty much proven, (FS Saga after tWW) then if it's another place on the Great Sea, or Hyrule being deflooded, that's another question.
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exept for the golden forks whats the connection on tww and the FS sage?
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^Yeah, er wot? Not seeing the significance there, but we do have tWW and the Four Sword Saga in the same timeline. It does not sound like you're disputing that so I am confused.

And yeah, the Towns could be named as such because the people they were named after were all influential leaders, (except in Saria's case, she was just well liked and admired by the Kokiri). Even if they never became sages, everyone still knew them.
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exept for the golden forks whats the connection on tww and the FS sage?
Well...tMC Hyrule being portrayed as an island on a sea. Also FSA Hyrule is surrounded by water(unsure about FS).
In tMC we also see a Goron Merchant, just like in tWW.
On a side note, PH also has Force Gems, somthing which also exists in FSA (unsure about FS).
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Psh, Hombre you need friends so you can play FS, JK

Four Swords Map is barely anything at all really, and we don't see anything beyond the areas you visit, so no way to tell if it is surrounded by Water or not. Probably is. And no, there are no Force Gems in FS, just a bunch of rupees.
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^Oh well, that just makes the connection a little less obvious then... I actually do have friends We played FSA together, but only about half the game, then one gave up, and we started playing Mario Kart instead.

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I live in the same timezone, but I guess I stay up all night, since I don't have any school till January 17th.

EDIT: Damn, I've been spending too much time at the computer, my shoulers ache so much.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:36 PM
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I hear that Lol. The only thing about your theory is that LoZ and AoL are before Alttp in the child line and isn't Alttp supposed to be a backstory to LoZ? Correct me if I am wrong.
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Re: The Double ALttP Theory

I might agree with this theory, except that it seems unlikely the same thing would happen in 2 different timelines. The EXACT thing
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:53 PM
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^ As I said:
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If you think about it though, our own history has repeated itself many times, different cultures with different histories has made the same things (inventions, cultural progression, etc). You'd just have to take that a little further.
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I hear that Lol. The only thing about your theory is that LoZ and AoL are before Alttp in the child line and isn't Alttp supposed to be a backstory to LoZ? Correct me if I am wrong.
It says so on that back of the box, but I think whoever was responsible for the story said it was supposed to be after... whatever, in-game evidence outrules boxes, developer statements and whatnot. Had we only followed developer quotes, for example, we'd have to place tMC and FS before OoT, where they don't seem to belong at all.
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There is actually no logical reason I can think of for that to be true. The reason it is commonly believed is because that was stated on the back of the Box for aLttP. Back when it was released, it made sense timeline wise. But now with wot we know about the Triforce, aLttP can only fit after the NES games. Because Ganon achieved the whole Triforce in aLttP, which means he had a balance of the 3 elements. If he went after it again, more than likely he would still remember to keep that balance. But in the NES games, the Triforce was Split. Yeah, you see where I am going with this.

EDIT: DANGET! I forgot to refresh the page again. Owell, I gave a little more info than Hombre anyway.

Also, it seems unlikely that the exact same people would appear in 2 dimensions (or at least their bodies) yet it does happen in MM.
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Yeah you guy are right and now that I look at the box of the rereleased Alttp box it mentions nothing about it being a prequel to Loz and besides the beginning of Alttp seems to be telling the story of Oot.
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About Jabun and the whole retrieving the master sword thing...
Does Ganon and/or the master sword make an appearance in the FS trilogy? Or should I just play to find out.

Well, anyways, I always thought that that Master Sword in Ganon's head at the end of TWW was like keeping him in that state. I always thought that if somehow it were to be dislodged, Ganon would return.

This could serve as a possible explanation for his return post-TWW ... somehow (Jabun maybe) it got taken and placed back in the newly-founded Hyrule, releasing Ganon from his stone-state?

I don't know, I could be entirely wrong... this is my first stab at theorizing.
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See thats my problem. I believe that Hyrule is reformed after WW, but i'm unsure as to how Ganondorf is released. Unless it was someone evil, but then how would they be able to touch the Master Sword it it repels evil. UNLESS someone good didnt know what they were doing and accidentally pulled it from him
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About Jabun and the whole retrieving the master sword thing...
That was just on top of my head, any other explanation is as valid as mine.

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Does Ganon and/or the master sword make an appearance in the FS trilogy? Or should I just play to find out.
Hmm... I'll just put up a spoiler. Find out if you want to.
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This could serve as a possible explanation for his return post-TWW ... somehow (Jabun maybe) it got taken and placed back in the newly-founded Hyrule, releasing Ganon from his stone-state?
I think he'd be pretty dead anyway, not many poeple can survive having a sword stuck in their heads... and being drowned. Another Four Sword Saga spoiler, this one about Ganondorf's involvement:

He was reborn in FSA

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You're doing great

EDIT: God of Triforce, I think I answered you as well here... if you're not happy, then just tell me.
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Does Ganon and/or the master sword make an appearance in the FS trilogy? Or should I just play to find out.
Yes, you should play it to find out, but no, The Master Sword is nowhere in the FS trilogy. Ganon however makes a very important appearance in FSA. Not the original Ganon though. A new Gerudo finds the Trident of Power, and is filled with the Spirit of Ganon, becoming Blue Ganon.

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Well, anyways, I always thought that that Master Sword in Ganon's head at the end of TWW was like keeping him in that state. I always thought that if somehow it were to be dislodged, Ganon would return.
I don't know, normally when people have a sword in their brain and they don't have the Trifroce of Power, they die.

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This could serve as a possible explanation for his return post-TWW ... somehow (Jabun maybe) it got taken and placed back in the newly-founded Hyrule, releasing Ganon from his stone-state?
Possible, but Hombre suggested to me, that Ganon released his soul from his body before he died. That seems more likely to me.

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Good stab. Play more games to get better.

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^huh? no, I'm fine...

I havent played FS, FSA, or tMC, so I'm completely unfamiliar with that whole storyline.
But about the ALttP thing...
That theory would also have to mean that Hyrule in the Adult timeline formed to be just like Hyrule in the Child timeline, even though the landscape was changed in the Adult timeline due to the forming of the Great Sea.
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^ Due to FSA appearing in the Adult Timeline the landscape looks similiar to the old Hyrule regardless of ALttP. FSA and ALttP have almost identical maps.

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^huh? no, I'm fine...

I havent played FS, FSA, or tMC, so I'm completely unfamiliar with that whole storyline.
But about the ALttP thing...
That theory would also have to mean that Hyrule in the Adult timeline formed to be just like Hyrule in the Child timeline, even though the landscape was changed in the Adult timeline due to the forming of the Great Sea.
Either another crazy event happened, or they moved. MC takes place between the flood and aLttP, and that Hyrule is much different. And crazy things could happen in the Child timeline too, but there is no way to say for sure.
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Well in TP the land looks like if it's starting to break up, what with the gian gorges and all.
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Well in TP the land looks like if it's starting to break up, what with the gian gorges and all.
^Yah, but they could just be caused by erosion.
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