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Old 11-23-2007, 09:46 PM
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Re: Disproving the Split

Technically time travel is impossible, which is how such paradoxes can exist. Since time travel isn't real, there is no right or wrong way to define it. The creators of the Zelda game can define what time travel is in their story, and since there are no real laws to time travel it's automatically right. Thus, the time travel in Zelda is not in error because the way it is is the way it's meant to be within the Zelda canon.

It can't be wrong because there's no right way.
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Old 11-23-2007, 11:43 PM
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Re: Disproving the Split

You cannot disprove canon. Period.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:13 AM
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Re: Disproving the Split

l2/5thdimensionalphysics, srsly.

higher dimensional physics acount for changes created in the past, although these changes would create a split timeline.

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But, using Zelda finally, look at it this way. Link defeats Ganondorf in the future. He travels back in time, and Ganon's sealed there too. How could that have happened? By sealing him in the past, it is now impossible for Link to face him, or any of the temples, in the future. As we've played through it, we know it all happened. So, apparently, Ganon wasn't sealed in the past, thus...no split.
Hyrule, and the other mortal realms, were created by the goddesses.
Nayru, the goddess of wisdom, created natural law.
Time is an example of natural law.
The Sacred Realm is not Hyrule, nor is it a mortal realm.

The Sacred Realm is timeless.

To top this off, even if the idea of a split timeline was completely absurd, Nayru did create natural law, therefore Nintendo could state that the passage of time in the Zelda franchize is directly proportional to the number of ostriches in existance, and they would be right, as there wouldn't be any pre-existing natural law in place to contradict them.
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Old 11-24-2007, 02:30 AM
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Re: Disproving the Split

So would, the Sacred Realm being timeless, anything that happens there affect all time, one time, or no time?

All Time:
Ganondorf is trapped there, he is erased from all mortal existence.

One Time:
Ganondorf is just ripped from the future.

No Time (or alternate time):
Ganondorf is taken out of existence completely, therefore erasing all of his badness from Hyrule (like he was never born).

Or you guys could always throw something else in there too...
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Old 11-25-2007, 02:37 PM
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Yes, I know. The first reaction you'll have is "But Aonuma himself said it was true!" Well you know what? He was wrong. It is logically impossible for there to be a split in time. And I'm gonna tell you why, by use of a tangent.
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Hold on. What you are saying, is that the guy in charge of the story / production / development for the continuance of the Zelda series is wrong, even though this is his story now? You my friend, are wrong.

Let's get this straight. Let's say you write a book, then you have fans telling you your story is wrong and go about telling you how it happened. You guys that continue with saying Aonuma is wrong, the split didn't happen, look and sound just as stupid as those 'fans' would.

You can have/believe whatever theory you want, because its just a theory. Until Aonuma or Miyamoto come out and announce the official timeline, your theory will never evolve into anything more.

Here's an idea for you. Come to terms that there is a split, whether you think its logically impossible or not. This is a fictional/fantasy story, not something that needs to rely entirely on real world physics and law.

So, tell me again how Aonuma is wrong??
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:30 PM
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Here's an idea for you. Come to terms that there is a split, whether you think its logically impossible or not. This is a fictional/fantasy story, not something that needs to rely entirely on real world physics and law.
So, tell me again how Aonuma is wrong??
It would be nice if fantasy stories followed some kind of real world physics though. It helps us understand them better.

Unfortunely Zelda's split time line does not, It was alright untill TP came out and prooved the split. but I can live with that.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:38 PM
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Re: Disproving the Split

Any kind of time travel breaks real world physics, that's what I'm trying to say. You can't apply real world physics to Zelda's timeline.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: Disproving the Split

^ Exactly. Since no one has travelled back (or forth) in time and told us about it, there's no right or wrong.
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Old 11-27-2007, 03:10 PM
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Re: Disproving the Split

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^ Exactly. Since no one has travelled back (or forth) in time and told us about it, there's no right or wrong.
Off topic: But we can have an educated geuss of how time works. Some "guesses" or theories better than others.

In my view of real world time a split doesnt work.

A split works in Zelda though because it is just a story. Case closed.
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Old 12-01-2007, 12:29 PM
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Re: Disproving the Split

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Any kind of time travel breaks real world physics, that's what I'm trying to say. You can't apply real world physics to Zelda's timeline.
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In my view of real world time a split doesnt work.

A split works in Zelda though because it is just a story. Case closed.
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