My theory about Zant at the end of TP

Okay first post time.

As we all know (or should know) is that at the end of TP Zant appears and snaps his neck right before Ganondorf presumably dies. My theory is that Zant and Ganondorf have what is called a symbiotic relationship. Allow me to explain.

A symbiotic relationship is when two different organisms come together and form a bond that is helpful to both of them. In this case Zant's hatred brought Ganondorf back to life and Ganondorf gave Zant the power to take over the twilight realm.

Some evidence to back up this claim is in the dialogue Zant and Ganondorf have before you fight them. Zant says that he looked into the sky and found a god (Ganondorf) who then says "I shall house my power in you. Anything you desire I shall desire it too." this hints that they shared a sort of spiritual bond as Ganondorf fed off Zant's hatred to be reborn and Zant gained his power in exchange. More evidence to support this is when Ganondorf says "Pathetic as they were, though, they served me well. Their anguish was my nourishment.Their hatred bled across the void and awakened me. I drew deep of it and grew strong again". (Props to acropolis500 for finding me this quote.)

Also before he is killed Zant starts talking about how Ganondorf will revive him withought fail. In the amount of time for the player to get from their to Ganon he could easily have revived Zant.

Some people think however that Ganondorf would not have wasted his time with Zant because he thought the Twili to be a weak and foolish race. I dissagree, I think that BECAUSE Zant was so foolish as to blindly support Ganondorf to be the reason Ganondorf would revive him. A soldier who blindly supports him is just the kind of thing Ganondorf would find useful.

Now to get into why Zant appeared before Ganondorf supposedly dies. I believe that through the symbiotic link that they share Zant sucked the soul out of Ganondorfs body (somehow through cracking his neck) allowing for Ganondorf to seem dead withought actually being dead. This is why Ganondorf does not fall over. His body is nothing but a shell that was shed so his soul could become strong again through Zant's hatred as it did before.

This is basically the ultimate defense. In order to kill both of them they would have to die at the same exact time so they could not use each other to come back.

Anyway that's my theory. I'm new at this so please offer constructive criticism if it is neccesary.

Great theory.

I think this is the quote you are looking for:

GANON:"Pathetic as they were, though, they served me well. Their anguish was my nourishment.Their hatred bled across the void and awakened me. I drew deep of it and grew strong again."

Originally Posted by acropolis500

Great theory.

I think this is the quote you are looking for:

GANON:"Pathetic as they were, though, they served me well. Their anguish was my nourishment.Their hatred bled across the void and awakened me. I drew deep of it and grew strong again."

Thanks. I''l go ahead and add that quote to the first post.

This is a good theory.

For future reference, if you ever need a quote, there are text dumps/game scripts on GameFAQS. I would have got it for you from there, but I forgot.

Brilliant. I had a theory similar to this, but you put it farther in depth, and I strongly second this.

This is too easy. I've never made a thread withought at least SOMEONE disagreeing with me.

Okay like you said thats your theory...not ours..

I like you theory now here's mine.....
If in order for them to die they must both die at once, right. So as gannondorf was dieing Zant was like "Hey whydon't I crack my neck in a fatal fashon! It wouldn't matter because i would be revived." But gannondorf was dieing as this happened so he needed Zant, but Zant needed him so they both die.

As stupid as I made that sound, it makes sense.

Also:

Also before he is killed Zant starts talking about how Ganondorf will revive him withought fail. In the amount of time for the player to get from their to Ganon he could easily have revived Zant.

Being a differen't realm time may flow differently. After all the twili seemed to evolve pretty fast (If you believe the twili were sheikah like me). It seems that time may flow slower in the Twilight realm.

As for:

This is too easy. I've never made a thread withought at least SOMEONE disagreeing with me.

Well sorry to break out the bad news but it looks like i'm the first ^.^

I have to disagree. Ganondorf's comments before the final battle seem to suggest that he didn't care about the Twili, and would only use them for one purpose and be done with them, which appeared to be the case in TP. After the barrier comes up around Hyrule Castle (presumably the time Ganondorf returns to the Light Realm) Zant takes the throne in the Twilight Realm, and honestly, that seems to be the end of that. Ganondorf, being evil and selfish, probably didn't bring Zant back, or even interact with him for that matter after entering Hyrule Castle. It appears that, at the end of the game, Zant, a spirit, breaks his own neck as a macabe way to welcome Ganondorf to Hell while also announcing that his time is up. Notice how Ganondorf's death happens right after Zant breaks his neck.

Originally Posted by Average Gamer

I have to disagree. Ganondorf's comments before the final battle seem to suggest that he didn't care about the Twili, and would only use them for one purpose and be done with them, which appeared to be the case in TP. After the barrier comes up around Hyrule Castle (presumably the time Ganondorf returns to the Light Realm) Zant takes the throne in the Twilight Realm, and honestly, that seems to be the end of that. Ganondorf, being evil and selfish, probably didn't bring Zant back, or even interact with him for that matter after entering Hyrule Castle. It appears that, at the end of the game, Zant, a spirit, breaks his own neck as a macabe way to welcome Ganondorf to Hell while also announcing that his time is up. Notice how Ganondorf's death happens right after Zant breaks his neck.

I already talked about this in the first post. IMO because Zant was so unconditionaly loyal Ganondorf would have revived him so he could use him later. I could be completly wrong but that is what I think because I believe that this would be the perfect way to bring both of them back for another game.

like you theory now here's mine.....
If in order for them to die they must both die at once, right. So as gannondorf was dieing Zant was like "Hey whydon't I crack my neck in a fatal fashon! It wouldn't matter because i would be revived." But gannondorf was dieing as this happened so he needed Zant, but Zant needed him so they both die.

As stupid as I made that sound, it makes sense.

Except Zant is so incredibly flexible snapping his neck can't kill him.

Being a differen't realm time may flow differently. After all the twili seemed to evolve pretty fast (If you believe the twili were sheikah like me). It seems that time may flow slower in the Twilight realm.

I don't think so. There isn't anything that seems to suggest how fast they evolved because (correct me if I'm wrong) it was never said exactly how long they where in the Twili realm.

Personally, I believe that Ganondorf needed Zant. His physical existence was supported by him possessing Zant and giving him his powers. After Link defeats Ganon, with the Master Sword stuck in his chest, the scales were tipped, and Zant now had more control. He realized that Ganon was simply using him, so he took revenge by killing himself, and destroying Ganon's lifeline, sending him back to the Twilight Realm. With Zant dead, Ganon no longer had a physical presence to live off of, and he was stuck back in his Twili, pure energy form.

Originally Posted by HelmarocKing

Personally, I believe that Ganondorf needed Zant. His physical existence was supported by him possessing Zant and giving him his powers. After Link defeats Ganon, with the Master Sword stuck in his chest, the scales were tipped, and Zant now had more control. He realized that Ganon was simply using him, so he took revenge by killing himself, and destroying Ganon's lifeline, sending him back to the Twilight Realm. With Zant dead, Ganon no longer had a physical presence to live off of, and he was stuck back in his Twili, pure energy form.

I really don't like the idea of Zant killing Ganondorf because Zant thought of Ganondorf as his god and it wouldn't make sense for Zant to kill his god even if he was being used.

Originally Posted by Numa Dude

I really don't like the idea of Zant killing Ganondorf because Zant thought of Ganondorf as his god and it wouldn't make sense for Zant to kill his god even if he was being used.

Yup, if Zant were to revive Ganondorf on the other hand... But not kill.

Originally Posted by WWLinkMasterX

Being a differen't realm time may flow differently. After all the twili seemed to evolve pretty fast (If you believe the twili were sheikah like me). It seems that time may flow slower in the Twilight realm.

We never see thier true form, just the half changed form from the sols. They probly look exactly like sheikah. Also, seeing how the twilight realm changes light dwellers, it could have changed them instantly.
Also, the time is the same. If you go to the twilight realm at night, when you come back to arbiters grounds it will still be night.

Originally Posted by Numa Dude

I already talked about this in the first post. IMO because Zant was so unconditionaly loyal Ganondorf would have revived him so he could use him later. I could be completly wrong but that is what I think because I believe that this would be the perfect way to bring both of them back for another game.

Zant, as a spirit, was likely watching the battle from the beyond, and probably realized that Ganondorf duped him. Ganondorf's death at the hands of Link and his pre-battle comments are probably enough evidence for Zant that Ganondorf was just an opportunistic man who didn't truly care about the Twili.

Originally Posted by Numa Dude

Except Zant is so incredibly flexible snapping his neck can't kill him.

Zant was already dead, and either way the snapping sound was confirmation that something happened.

I don't think that the developers intended it like this. If they had, they would have explained it in the game.

Nice idea, though.

We never see thier true form, just the half changed form from the sols. They probly look exactly like sheikah. Also, seeing how the twilight realm changes light dwellers, it could have changed them instantly.
Also, the time is the same. If you go to the twilight realm at night, when you come back to arbiters grounds it will still be night.

Well I may be mistaken, but so may you...

1 That would mean that time actually flows faster in the twilight realm because you could wait the time it takes for day to turn to night and when you return it's the same night. Which actually proves my point

2 Time may flow slower, and what you thought was the same night is the next night.

3 Mayby it's just a game

See what I mean? By the way, Ignore number 3, That kind of thinking never got anyone anywhere.