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Hyrule: Flat or Round?

I've been thinking recently, we know the geography of Hyrule is typically a continent surrounded by an ocean, and a few islands as seen in various games, but is the world of Hyrule round like our earth, or flat like the ancients believed our earth to be?

Evidence for round:
Sun and Moon cycle
More traditional format

Evidence for flat:
Link turns around to sail back to Hyrule, never circumnavigates
Islands in TWW appear instantly on the horrizon, not seeing the top first and the bottom last.

So it's one of three things: 1) Hyrule is round 2) Hyrule is flat 3) I'm looking way too deeply into this and proccrastinating from my homework too much.
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:23 PM
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

Id Say 1 & 3. You Really Need to Get your Homework Done... adn Hyrule is Round...unless its in 2D than its Flat...
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

I vote for option 3)
Hehe, really, I would say that Hyrule is flat, created in the center of the universe by the Gods and surrounded by random darkness and nothingness.
And there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why the sun and moon come and go.
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Old 09-27-2007, 01:35 AM
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

I've wondered not so much if Hyrule's flat or not, but if it's a planet, like, is it Earth? Is it it's own planet? Or is it like a continent on a planet. If so, are there other lands on the planet?

Always kind of confused me.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

Isn't Hyrule a continent itself, and not just a planet?
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Old 09-27-2007, 02:17 AM
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

What do you mean "Not just a planet"?

If it's a planet, then it's not a continent. If it's a continent, it's not a planet.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

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Isn't Hyrule a continent itself, and not just a planet?
Hahahaha, not just a planet That's the greatest comment this far.

Hyrule is the name of the kingdom, but it's also the name of the world... i.e. the planet. But I don't think that the poeple of Hyrule are even aware of such terms as planets. So in conclusion Hyrule=The Kingdom and the World.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

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I've been thinking recently, we know the geography of Hyrule is typically a continent surrounded by an ocean, and a few islands as seen in various games, but is the world of Hyrule round like our earth, or flat like the ancients believed our earth to be?

Evidence for round:
Sun and Moon cycle
More traditional format

Evidence for flat:
Link turns around to sail back to Hyrule, never circumnavigates
Islands in TWW appear instantly on the horrizon, not seeing the top first and the bottom last.

So it's one of three things: 1) Hyrule is round 2) Hyrule is flat 3) I'm looking way too deeply into this and proccrastinating from my homework too much.
Actually, you were mistaken from the getgo. You would be hard-pressed to find ancients that did believe in a flat Earth at all. Ever since Socrates, the educated have known that the Earth was round. They were even fairly sure of how big it was. The only problem is that they thought it was a GEOCENTRIC universe, which means that the Earth is in the center.
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I vote for option 3)
Hehe, really, I would say that Hyrule is flat, created in the center of the universe by the Gods and surrounded by random darkness and nothingness.
And there could be a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why the sun and moon come and go.
You can ask Ptolemy for how the sun and the moon go around the Earth, but you might get stuck when you try to find planets in Hyrule's night sky.

Anyway, I think that the real question is this: is Hyrule at the center of its universe?

Plus, the all-at-once thing could simply be an artifact of how the WW game loads.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

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Well theoretically I don't know, but game code wise I'm your man. It depend's on the game you see. In OoT and MM the earth is a flat strip surrounded by a HUGE circular atmosphere. In fact in these games space travel may not even be possible since after 10 minutes of straight going up you take fetal position, a small atmosphere circles around you, and then you get zoomed out of character view and bear witness to a black abyss. As for the sun and moon, they circle the atmosphere parralel to each other.

Now WW is a game! Space travel their is great. Using the super deku leaf you can get into space reasonably quickly and move aroun in any direction you want. When going up the planet keeps changing shape but seems to stop when it becomes an octagon. When going to a new place it seems to keep it's octagonal shape so I think it's round. Of course since WW's space travel is so geat (and the game's newer=bigger) I haven't explored anymore.

As for TP I haven't had a chance to use the super spinner yet but from what I've seen from videos it's much like Oot and MM.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

Given that in WW we see the 'Big Dipper', and other worldly consellations, it's clear that it's supposed to be a world much like our own. In face, if you play AST, it talks about Hyrule being one of many similar types of worlds. The main character in AST is a guy who wears a baseball cap (if you choose male), suggesting they may have been from Earth. In any case, I think it's safe to assume the world of Hyrule is round like ours is.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

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Hahahaha, not just a planet That's the greatest comment this far.

Hyrule is the name of the kingdom, but it's also the name of the world... i.e. the planet. But I don't think that the poeple of Hyrule are even aware of such terms as planets. So in conclusion Hyrule=The Kingdom and the World.
Actually, according to the official Nintendo documentation, Hyrule itself is simply a land/kingdom on our Earth, but chronologically existing in some unspecified era "long ago and far away," similar to how Tolkien envisioned Middle Earth.
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Actually, according to the official Nintendo documentation, Hyrule itself is simply a land/kingdom on our Earth, but chronologically existing in some unspecified era "long ago and far away," similar to how Tolkien envisioned Middle Earth.
Where do you find this information? I have never heard of such things being the case.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

Tetra has a globe in her cabin in TWW.
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

The Sun and Moon cycle should be enough to prove it in itself. The fact you cannot travel further across the sea in WW is because the King says it is too dangerous, hinting that there are mega Octos, or perhaps he simply doesn't wish Link to get sidetracked, and to save Zelda. And your fourth point is really irrelevant because that's to do with technology of the console, and not developer's wish.
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Where do you find this information? I have never heard of such things being the case.
It comes from the NES Legend of Zelda manual.

Also -- and I completely forgot to even mention this point earlier -- the night sky in The Wind Waker and Twilight Princess feature actual real-world star constellations, as they'd be seen from Earth.

Those are like "uranium signatures" in nuclear warheads...they're utterly one-of-a-kind, and cannot be reduplicated anywhere else, reflecting Earth's unique celestial position in the universe.


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Tetra has a globe in her cabin in TWW.
Right there, I'd say that conclusively settles the "flatness question."
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Re: Hyrule: Flat or Round?

Hyrule is proved to be a planet and hence 3-D.

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A world is ussually defined as a round thing.

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Tetra has a globe in her cabin in TWW.
OR we can say that.
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