LTTP is last in the timeline?

I think LTTP is last in the timeline.It was finally delivered 'bout 2 hours ago and i've got the first 2 pendants.Now i know i've only started,but ive seen a few things pointing towards LTTP being final.Such as:
No Hylians.
Different language.
And i saw on these forums that it says at the end:The MS sleeps forever.
Do youagree?If not,give me ur opinion.

Originally Posted by Jordan16

I think LTTP is last in the timeline.It was finally delivered 'bout 2 hours ago and i've got the first 2 pendants.Now i know i've only started,but ive seen a few things pointing towards LTTP being final.Such as:
No Hylians.
Different language.
And i saw on these forums that it says at the end:The MS sleeps forever.
Do youagree?If not,give me ur opinion.

Don't jump to conclusions when you haven't even finished the game yet.

As for there not being any Hylains:

Originally Posted by ALttP

They say the Hylian people mastered mysterious powers, as did the seven sages. But the blood of the Hylia has grown thin over time.

This implies that the Hylians breded with another race so much until the blood and characteristics of the original Hylian thinned over time.

Now, in past Zelda's, there have indeed been "humans" and then "Hylians." Take for example WW. Obviously, the people who had long ears still possessed the characteristics of a "true" Hylian. However, there were people without long the trademark ears of a Hylian as well. Now, evidently, these people are closer to being "human" more then anything; no longer possessing the Hylian ears and their magical properties due to consistent interbreeding over time.

The same is seen in ALttP as well. Namely: Link, Zelda, the Maidens, and Sahasrahla (along with possibly a couple other minor characters that escape me right now).

The different language should be self-explanatory. WW had different languages. Does that mean all fact point to it being the last game? Obviously not. The language simply had been long forgotten over the generations.

As for the "And the Master Sword sleeps again... FOREVER" quote. Well, do ever see the Master Sword in LOZ or AOL? Do we see it in LA or OOS/OOA. Yes, maybe we see a cameo appearance of the Master Sword in OOX, but it held obsoletely no relevance to the story whatsoever. It was also unneeded and unrequited for the progression of the story as well.

It should be considered just as canonical just as much as how multiple characters made a cameo appearance in MC. I think I've shown my point.

And besides all of this; LA comes after ALttP. It's a proven 100% fact.

The only thing the quote saying "the Master sword sleeps forever" means is that no game featuring the Master sword can be after ALttP. However, Dark Link mentioned games where the sword isn't in the game, or is only featured as a noncanonical upgrade that players may miss altogether.

The LA backstory mentions a prophecy (ALttP), and Ganon's ashes(LoZ), so it definitely comes after ALttP.

There isn't much else to say, other than what Dark Link has said.

i beleive there are more games cumin

Of course there are more games coming! Just, ALLTP is near the end of the timeline. The current timeline, anyway.

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The Master Sword has only been in 4 games (not counting the Oracle duo's unlockable one). There's plenty of room for games to come after LttP.

The MS sleeps forever quote doesn't mean it comes last.

It comes close to last.

After ALttP we have LA-LoZ/AoL-OoS/OoA and than the timeline ends.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

The only thing the quote saying "the Master sword sleeps forever" means is that no game featuring the Master sword can be after ALttP. However, Dark Link mentioned games where the sword isn't in the game, or is only featured as a noncanonical upgrade that players may miss altogether.

Although I seem to recall reading in some interview or other (Dan Owsen, maybe) that the "Master Sword sleeps forever" text was a translational gaffe that slipped through the cracks, and wasn't caught in time.

The dominant Nintendo policy appears to be that the Master Sword was indeed wielded by Link in The Legend of Zelda and Zelda II: The Adventure of Link -- the "Magic Sword" was retconned to the "Master Sword" when Zelda III was finally released.

Originally Posted by Chaos Auteur

Although I seem to recall reading in some interview or other (Dan Owsen, maybe) that the "Master Sword sleeps forever" text was a translational gaffe that slipped through the cracks, and wasn't caught in time.

Not true. If it were so, then why didn't Nintendo fix this alleged error in the 2002 GBA remake of A Link to the Past? Surely among all the other textual errors that were fixed in the remake, Nintendo would have gotten rid of one so grand as the "Master Sword sleeps forever" quote.

Originally Posted by Chaos Auteur

Although I seem to recall reading in some interview or other (Dan Owsen, maybe) that the "Master Sword sleeps forever" text was a translational gaffe that slipped through the cracks, and wasn't caught in time.

The dominant Nintendo policy appears to be that the Master Sword was indeed wielded by Link in The Legend of Zelda and Zelda II: The Adventure of Link -- the "Magic Sword" was retconned to the "Master Sword" when Zelda III was finally released.

ALttP, LoZ, and AoL were all remade recently as a gameboy game and gamecube collector's edition games respectfully. The "sleeps forever" quote is there and the sword in LoZ is still called the magic sword.

You'll have to find a developer quote that says this, contrary to what was kept in the remakes of those three games.

On another note, Ganon was remade in the LoZ backstory as holding a trident like that in ALttP. If someone did that, and wanted the magic sword to become the master sword, they would have.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

ALttP, LoZ, and AoL were all remade recently as a gameboy game and gamecube collector's edition games respectfully. The "sleeps forever" quote is there and the sword in LoZ is still called the magic sword.

You'll have to find a developer quote that says this, contrary to what was kept in the remakes of those three games.

Right, I've played the GBA versions, but it was brought up a couple of different times in a couple of different interviews over the years (one was a piece done around the time of The Wind Waker's release at Gamespy or Gamespot). I'd go digging for it, but it'd be like the needle in the haystack. Likewise, the text-content of most of the NES conversions and instruction manuals were pretty much considered sacrosanct, which resulted in very little (if any) retouching at all.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

On another note, Ganon was remade in the LoZ backstory as holding a trident like that in ALttP. If someone did that, and wanted the magic sword to become the master sword, they would have.

At the moment, though, we've no real official pronunciamento from Nintendo on this subject -- it's largely "fanon" either way you slice it, but I've rarely encountered people who didn't think that the "Magic Sword" from LoZ and the Master Sword weren't one and the same, especially given the later entries in the series, and the tradition of Link wielding it in every game.

Originally Posted by Chaos Auteur

Right, I've played the GBA versions, but it was brought up a couple of different times in a couple of different interviews over the years (one was a piece done around the time of The Wind Waker's release at Gamespy or Gamespot). I'd go digging for it, but it'd be like the needle in the haystack. Likewise, the text-content of most of the NES conversions and instruction manuals were pretty much considered sacrosanct, which resulted in very little (if any) retouching at all.



At the moment, though, we've no real official pronunciamento from Nintendo on this subject -- it's largely "fanon" either way you slice it, but I've rarely encountered people who didn't think that the "Magic Sword" from LoZ and the Master Sword weren't one and the same, especially given the later entries in the series, and the tradition of Link wielding it in every game.

I don't know what else to say. We already know there's more than one kind of sword that can hurt Ganon, as seen in FSA. The ability to repel evil is not a unique feature.

Now, it says on the ALttP box cover that LoZ Link and Zelda are decendants of ALttP Link and Zelda. The quote at the end of ALttP is the most famous quote in the series as far as I know. It's just easier for me to believe that the magic sword is different from the Master Sword than it is to dismiss that quote.

There's a contradiction that has survived with the remakes. Either you believe the quote holds true, or the sword in the original game is actually the Master Sword renamed. This was the decision I made.

ALttP, LoZ, and AoL were all remade recently as a gameboy game and gamecube collector's edition games respectfully. The "sleeps forever" quote is there and the sword in LoZ is still called the magic sword.

I take the quote meaning. The Master sword when blue sleeps forever. Because of KnS

1. There's not been any current Hylians since OoT, or possibly TP. I can't remember them being referred to as a current civilization in TP, but if I'm to believe Aonuma the game is only a century later. Anyway, they are obviously in decline, so that connects the game to ALttP.

2. The quote doesn't mean anything. I've heard of another video game series where the magick sword sleeps again forever after about every second game. It's just a cliché.

Not true. If it were so, then why didn't Nintendo fix this alleged error in the 2002 GBA remake of A Link to the Past? Surely among all the other textual errors that were fixed in the remake, Nintendo would have gotten rid of one so grand as the "Master Sword sleeps forever" quote.

Why would they keep the Golden Land mistranslation?

Originally Posted by Pinecove

I take the quote meaning. The Master sword when blue sleeps forever. Because of KnS

The Master Sword when blue? I don't follow. And what's KnS?

The Master Sword when blue?

Allow me to re-phrase that. The MS gets powered up in ALttP. In the oracles (and the other games that the MS seems more powerful than usual) the MS could still be powered up. So essentually what I'm saying is that the MS as it was forged sleeps again forever.

And what's KnS?

It's a Japenease game that came after LA. The MS gets drawn.