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Old 08-23-2007, 03:57 PM
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Question hero of old?

ive just been playing through TP again and noticed that in the begining of the game (cause thats where i am at) lots of characters make reference to the hero of old. since this game, according to nintendo, takes place 100 years after oot when link was a kid, the hero of time couldnt have been regonized because his adventure is only known through the other end of the timeline where ganon was banished to the sacred realm. it has been speculated that the minish cap is the first story to start off the series so, could it be the link who battled vaati, or did young links small accomplishments recieved much more higher apreciation then it should have.

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Old 08-23-2007, 04:21 PM
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Re: hero of old?

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I'm not a hardcore enough player to know all the little details so I can't really say. I always thought it was referring to the events of Ocarina of Time though. Wind Waker made it known that what happened was Link went to (I'm assuming) Termina but couldn't make it back to Hyrule, that's when Ganon was released and the great flood happened. The only other alternative I can think of is Link does make it back from Termina and stops Ganon and that's why no massive body of water.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:28 PM
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Re: hero of old?

Well This could go a lot longer if you gave examples. I know one is how the gorons were amazed by the bow left by the hero but more examples would help.
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: hero of old?

I believe it is the Hero of Time they are referring to.
His deeds were known: the prologue from MM ( in the child timeline ) says this:

"In the land of Hyrule, there
echoes a legend. A legend held
dearly by the Royal Family that
tells of a boy...

A boy who,
after battling evil and saving
Hyrule, crept away from the land
that had made him a legend...

Done with the battles he once
waged across time, he embarked
on a journey. A secret and
personal journey...

A journey in search of a
beloved and invaluable friend...

A friend with whom he parted
ways when he finally fulfilled his
heroic destiny and took his place
among legends..."

This would imply that the knowledge of his deeds did exist in the future, and it would have to be the child timeline as the adult would have no record of the legend of MM.
In TP:
Impaz, the Sheikah from the Hidden Village instantly recognizes Link as the hero by his garb..and she makes a reference to Impa founding the village, which was remarked upon in OoT.
The Zora by the Lakebed temple also remarks that Link's Zora Armor resembles the garb of the hero in his people's legends, which I'd assume means OoT Link's Zora Tunic.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: hero of old?

so if they have all this information on his garbs, weapons and stuff, how come its there if it was never used if all of that equipment was used in adult oot timeline and not kid oot timeline, relying on the information from i dont remember now, saying that tp takes 100 years after kid link oot timeline, coincidently at the same time the windwaker occurs
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: hero of old?

Maybe Link kept the weapons, when Zelda sent him back in time. If he still has memory of his adventure, it seems likely that he would still have the weapons.

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Old 08-23-2007, 05:29 PM
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Re: hero of old?

but dont you think it would be the minish cap link more as the hero of old rather than ocarina of time link. it seems that everyone is more used to oot but that question can never be put down to whether it was the minish cap or not
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:37 PM
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Re: hero of old?

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so if they have all this information on his garbs, weapons and stuff, how come its there if it was never used if all of that equipment was used in adult oot timeline and not kid oot timeline, relying on the information from i dont remember now, saying that tp takes 100 years after kid link oot timeline, coincidently at the same time the windwaker occurs
That's a good question.
I don't think he kept all the stuff, or he would have had more gear on his trip to Termina. But that's more a gameplay thing than anything else. So I can't use that.
And the Zora's Tunic did exist in Child Link's time..it is seen in the Zora shop.
So maybe they heard the tale of the hero using a Zora's Tunic..and the Zora Armor is possibly a customized version made for him, or did belong to OoT Link when he grew up again or something.
You know..we don't know if the Hero of Time had more adventures and what happened when ( I say when because if the Legend of MM was know, Link HAD to have related it to Zelda. Nobody else would have known the details )
he returned to Hyrule after MM.
I also recall reading the interviews from Aonuma, and his staff wanted to put references to OoT in there, so he let them. In that case it really could be meaningless.
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Old 08-23-2007, 05:40 PM
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Re: hero of old?

When the Hero of Time is returned to the child timeline, he goes on and adventures, perhaps making a name for himself, especially if he is indeed the Hero's Shade.

While the developers say only a century passes, a few centuries are far more accurate.

And why would it be the Link of Minish Cap? He never changes tunics or encounters Zora, so the Zora aren't referring to him.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: hero of old?

i just did a playthrough of link receiving the tunic and it specifically says the zora king made the tunic for the hero. it never specified that the tunic was ever used and could mean that the zoras were expecting a hero to come, hence there is no evidence what so ever mentioning that the tunic was ever used. remember that the "hero" mentioned in the game is never specified like for example the hero of time in the wind waker.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:14 PM
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Re: hero of old?

So wait, Minish Cap is the first game in the series? I hadn't heard that before.
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Re: hero of old?

The previous Hero quotes show there was a hero before TP, that seemingly wasn't the Hero of Time (due to the nature of the equipment). As it's unlikely that a game comes between OoT and TP, I would guess that there is a Hero from before OoT.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:52 AM
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Re: hero of old?

Quote:
During his lifetime, my husband created garments specifically for the chosen
hero, garments that house the abilities of the Zora.
Quote:
Sir, you wear the garb of the hero in my people's legends...
Are you, perhaps...?
Well met! I, dear hero, am a maker of bombs.
Quote:
Hero's Clothes
Green clothes. It is said that the hero who long ago saved Hyrule from danger
wore these.
The first two are Zora quotes, and the last is the description for the Hero's Clothes. There was another Hero. Whether it was the Hero of Time or a Hero whose story has not been told, we don't know.

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So wait, Minish Cap is the first game in the series? I hadn't heard that before.
It's a new theory- nothing confirmed.

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The previous Hero quotes show there was a hero before TP, that seemingly wasn't the Hero of Time (due to the nature of the equipment). As it's unlikely that a game comes between OoT and TP, I would guess that there is a Hero from before OoT.
I would say between, rather than before Ocarina of Time. Ocarina of Time establishes the green clothes of the Hero, as the Hero of Time was raised by Kokiri, hence the Hero's Clothes of Twilight Princess.
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Re: hero of old?

tp is really 1000 years after oot????????!!!!!!!!!???
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Re: hero of old?

It's definetley talking about OoT link. It says that he saved the kingdom of hyrule then journeyed off and could not return in WW and obviously after link saved hyrule in OoT then returned to his childhood and set off to find navi. He couldn't get back so it's OoT link.
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Re: hero of old?

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It's definetley talking about OoT link. It says that he saved the kingdom of hyrule then journeyed off and could not return in WW and obviously after link saved hyrule in OoT then returned to his childhood and set off to find navi. He couldn't get back so it's OoT link.
We don't know if he couldn't get back. There might be another of those wierd portals somewhere else.

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tp is really 1000 years after oot????????!!!!!!!!!???
Well, it's from 100 to 1000 years. I would say 600.
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