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Old 08-22-2007, 05:46 PM
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Midna... connected to Majora?

I have been bored, so I googled the word "Majora". I looked at the picture and said "Woah, that sorta looks like Midna's funky headress thingy!" this has probably been covered before, so don't beat me!!!

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Old 08-22-2007, 06:01 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

Woah, you're good! I never noticed that before.
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:11 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

I have thought of that but I really didn't care jejeje so what's your point...?
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Old 08-22-2007, 06:57 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

maybe just that one piece of majoras mask was used to make midnas mask
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Old 08-22-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

Well it could be but I thought that MM was killed by Link
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

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Well it could be but I thought that MM was killed by Link
Did you watch the ending to MM recently, because I have. The Happy Mask Salesman gets the Majora's Mask back and says this:

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Oh...So the evil has left the mask
after all...
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:14 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

Man I forgot that, u r right but I think that in TP one of the Spirits said those mask had evil within them or I am mistaking and the Happy Salesman told that the evil was gone
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:24 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

The Light Spirits referred to them as dark power. The problem is whether to interpret this as evil, or not. They probably are evil though, since they were used to attempt to gain dominion over the sacred realm.

I forgot about what the Light Spirits said. So, then it probably wasn't made from Majora's Mask. Well, it looks like you were right after all.
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Old 08-22-2007, 08:44 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

I might but I wish that there were an argument about this so if you have anything to say about this say it.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:10 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

I don't think Majora's Mask connected to Midna specificly, but I think it could be an ancient Twili artifact. In MM, the Happy Mask Salesman says it was used in the hexing rituals of a tribe that vanished long ago. I think it might have been a kind of prototype of the fused shadows, because it seems to have similar capabilities to corrupt the weak-minded.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:40 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

Other than the eye, the FS and MM don't look similar. Considering Termina, they appear to be opposites rather than made by the same people. The FS is relatively dull and covers the whole head. MM is very colorful and only covers the face.
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Old 08-22-2007, 09:50 PM
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Other than the eye, the FS and MM don't look similar. Considering Termina, they appear to be opposites rather than made by the same people. The FS is relatively dull and covers the whole head. MM is very colorful and only covers the face.
The difference in appearance can easily explained by MM being made of wood and the FS being made of metal (or stone?) And you can't exactly make metal (or stone) colorful, at least not without it wearing off after a while. And I don't exactly see what difference it makes that MM covers the face and the FS cover the whole head... Also, Majoras mask didn't necesarly come from Termina, considering the Happy Mask Salesman came from Hyrule.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

I did think of the connection, but I didn't bother researching it. There are four pieces, there are also four giants/remains. Is there a relation? I have no clue, but it does raise some questions.

The Lakebed Temple resembles the Great Bay Temple.
The Palace of Twilight can be related to Stone Tower Temple.
Diababa: Twilit Parasite can be compared to the floating platforms that have an eye in the center of Woodfall Temple.
As for Snowhead and the Goron Mines, I'm still looking.

But the Fused Shadow on Midna emphasizes the eye on her helmet, as seen above. This resembles Majora's Incarnation.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: Midna... connected to Majora?

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The difference in appearance can easily explained by MM being made of wood and the FS being made of metal (or stone?) And you can't exactly make metal (or stone) colorful, at least not without it wearing off after a while. And I don't exactly see what difference it makes that MM covers the face and the FS cover the whole head... Also, Majoras mask didn't necesarly come from Termina, considering the Happy Mask Salesman came from Hyrule.
Actually, the different materials arguement actually bolsters the parallel probability. The FS and MM are both magical artifacts, meaning that whatever paint put on them could likely stay on and fresh forever. Paint dulls and comes off of wood too, yet MM, an ancient mask, looks fresh as ever. The FS is a type of helmet/crown, while MM is simply just a mask. Also, MM is heart-shaped and has numerous spikes, two traits that the FS lacks. The FS also has the eye of the Tribe of Evil on it. All in all, the FS and MM only have that eye in common.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:19 PM
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Actually, the different materials arguement actually bolsters the parallel probability. The FS and MM are both magical artifacts, meaning that whatever paint put on them could likely stay on and fresh forever. Paint dulls and comes off of wood too, yet MM, an ancient mask, looks fresh as ever. The FS is a type of helmet/crown, while MM is simply just a mask. Also, MM is heart-shaped and has numerous spikes, two traits that the FS lacks. The FS also has the eye of the Tribe of Evil on it. All in all, the FS and MM only have that eye in common.
For one thing, the stylistic differences like the spikes and shape would probably be because MM was made sooner. Like I said, I think it could have been a sort of FS prototype. Twili art probably evolved over time. Certain things changed (materials, colors, etc.) and certain things stayed the same (evil eyes...). You'll also notice that the FS are more powerful and easier to control than MM, which would seem to indicate it was made later to be more effective.

Side note: MM retaining it's paint may be the restult of magic, or it might just be that the Happy Masked Salesman fixed it up to its original state. I mean, masks are his life, he probably does a lot of restoration.
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Old 08-22-2007, 10:34 PM
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For one thing, the stylistic differences like the spikes and shape would probably be because MM was made sooner. Like I said, I think it could have been a sort of FS prototype. Twili art probably evolved over time. Certain things changed (materials, colors, etc.) and certain things stayed the same (evil eyes...). You'll also notice that the FS are more powerful and easier to control than MM, which would seem to indicate it was made later to be more effective.
The art is completely parallel between the two artifacts, and the only symbol shared between the two at all is that one eye. MM's magic is nothing like the magic displayed by the Fused Shadows, and MM was found in and has ties to Termina, a parallel realm from Hyrule. Considering that the Fused Shadows themselves are ancient, and that MM has to do with Termina and came from there, the FS and MM are more likely parallels instead of made by the same people.


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Side note: MM retaining it's paint may be the restult of magic, or it might just be that the Happy Masked Salesman fixed it up to its original state. I mean, masks are his life, he probably does a lot of restoration.
I doubt that he'd try to restore it: it would probably be worth more artifact-wise as it was found, and he seems like the last guy who would want to tamper with it. He also makes no mention of restoring it, and the magic angle is more likely, considering that the mask can change shape.
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Old 08-25-2007, 08:24 PM
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The art is completely parallel between the two artifacts, and the only symbol shared between the two at all is that one eye.
True, the eye may be the only symbol shared by either, but it is the only symbol ON either.

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MM's magic is nothing like the magic displayed by the Fused Shadows, and MM was found in and has ties to Termina, a parallel realm from Hyrule.
First of all, I'm pretty sure there was nothing in the game to suggest that MM came from Termina. The Mask Salesman had it stolen from him in the same forest that the Skull Kid stole Epona and Link's ocarina (at least I'm pretty sure, can someone confirm this?), and that forest was in Hyrule. And on the subject of MM and the FS magic being different, they are actually very similar. When worn, MM takes over it's host. Similarly, when a Fused Shadow is touched (except by a Twili?) it makes the one who touched it go into a frenzy, and slowly transforms them into a monster. It's not exactly the same, but it's similar. And the difference is there because the Twili wanted more powerful magic than MM.


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I doubt that he'd try to restore it: it would probably be worth more artifact-wise as it was found, and he seems like the last guy who would want to tamper with it. He also makes no mention of restoring it, and the magic angle is more likely, considering that the mask can change shape.
Really there's no reason for him not to restore the paint. He's the HAPPY Mask Salesman, he wouldn't want to have an ugly, plain mask. Especially not one that's potentially the most