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Old 05-12-2007, 11:38 AM
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revised timeline theory of mine

There are 4 links, ill say which are where. This is for link #1. First was OoT, you know all of why its first lol. Then was MM. Then (same link) was LttP. After he got the triforce in LttP, he sailed out to find some other challenge. He got nervous and the triforce of courage made him sleep and have the dream to make him braver which was LA. He found his way back to shore, in the original LoZ and then AoL. LoZ was void of all the people due to everyone moving north, which is where AoL was, which is why there are all the mountains. Then OoA then OoS.(all the same link, link #1.)

100 years after OoT was link #2, in WW. Then link #2 was the link in PH.

Then was link#3, which was in TP. TP comes last in the timeline because when I beat it I saw that in this one Ganondorf was actually dead this time. Four Swords fits in there somewhere i guess, that link would be link #4 I guess lol.

Well that’s it any suggestions/comments?
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

Ganon died in TP,TWW,ALTTP,LOZ and if you wish,OOX as well,but that was merely a shell...
As for your Links..i some flaws there.

The following share the same link:
-OOT/MM
-ALTTP/LA
-LOZ/AOL
-OOS/OOA
-FS/FSA
-TWW/PH

The following have their own Link
-TP
-TMC

Also,does your timeline flow in the order you mentioned your games????
Please make that clearer so people can comment better on your timeline...
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:51 AM
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

That's a decent theory. It has some evidence to it. I personally don't think it works since OoA/OoS are considered to take place loooong after the OoT/MM time. Also there is reason to believe that ALttP/LA Link is different from OoT/MM. Same goes for LOZ/AOL. I believe they are all different Links.

Otherwise I think it makes pretty good sense. Although would the Four Swords Link count as four Links or should that still be just one (the one who pulled the sword)?

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TP comes last in the timeline because when I beat it I saw that in this one Ganondorf was actually dead this time.
Uhhhh...no. I won't go into all the reasons that there are games that are further in the timeline than TP but Ganondorf didn't die for GOOD. I also believe that when he says something along the lines of "Don't think this ends here" that they were foreshawdowing he will come back. Possibly in the sequel to TP. Even so that sequel wouldn't even be the last one.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:59 AM
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Please break this into paragraphs. I'll read this timeline then.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:06 PM
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Please break this into paragraphs. I'll read this timeline then.
ok is it good enough for you now
as for gannondorf dieing in TP it seemed very vague, but it got some weird effect to it like he really died for good idk how
and which one is OOX? i never heard of it
and yes the timeline shows the games in order, ill reorder them here:
OoT MM LttP LA LoZ AoL OoA OoS WW PH TP then idk where four swords is.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:08 PM
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

Does your timeline not have a split?
The timeline has been confirmed to be split at OoT.
You may want to re-order them again.
Or are you still a linearist?
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

ya theres a split, though none of the games are in the 2nd one.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

that makes no sense.ATLEAST MM and TP have to be on another timeline.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:17 PM
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wait, now im confused too.
ok, TP, WW, and PH are in timeline 2. timeline 1 is with kid link from OoT.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:18 PM
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ya theres a split, though none of the games are in the 2nd one.
Oh boy ... It's know that MM and TP take place in the child timeline and TWW PH in the adult one.

Now lets look at this timeline of yours ...

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OoT MM LttP LA LoZ AoL OoA OoS WW PH TP
Well at least you got the arcs correct ...

ALttP after MM? proof?

TP after PH? Proof?

you're missing the FS saga.

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and which one is OOX? i never heard of it
The X is a variable like in math ... it reperesents S or A. I'm suprised you wouldn't know ...

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gannondorf dieing in TP it seemed very vague, but it got some weird effect to it like he really died for good idk how
In TWW it seamed like he died for good. FSA shows how Ganon is an ancient demon REBORN.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:19 PM
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ok, TP, WW, and PH are in timeline 2. timeline 1 is with kid link from OoT.
TP is in the child timeline. As proof play the game.
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:36 PM
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oh ya... TP has to be in the kid one seeing as it has the master sword from OoT
wait i just got a question.
when link goes back 7 years as an adult does the master sword go back with him??? i just realized that i didnt know that
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:43 PM
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There are 4 links, ill say which are where.
There are 8 Links:

(In no particular order)
- OoT/MM
- TP
- TWW/PH
- TMC
- FS/FSA
- ALttP/LA
- OoS/OoA
- LoZ/AoL
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This is for link #1. First was OoT, you know all of why its first lol. Then was MM. Then (same link) was LttP. After he got the triforce in LttP, he sailed out to find some other challenge. He got nervous and the triforce of courage made him sleep and have the dream to make him braver which was LA. He found his way back to shore, in the original LoZ and then AoL. LoZ was void of all the people due to everyone moving north, which is where AoL was, which is why there are all the mountains. Then OoA then OoS.(all the same link, link #1.)
If ALttP is after OoT, then how does the Triforce go from split between Ganondorf, Zelda and Link at the end of OoT to all of the pieces being Ganon's possession in ALttP? If LoZ/AoL are after ALttP/LA, then why does Link look a lot older in ALttP than he does in LoZ? How does the Triforce go from whole in Link's possession at the end of ALttP to having the Triforce of Wisdom in Zelda's possession (until she splits it into eight), Power in Ganon's possession and Courage locked in the Great Palace by the time of LoZ? Plus, OoS/OoA Link can't be the same as any other Link because Zelda doesn't know Link in the Oracles, but if she's met him several times before (according to your theory), then she would know him.
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100 years after OoT was link #2, in WW. Then link #2 was the link in PH.
Hundreds of years, not a hundred. One hundred was a translation error.
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Then was link#3, which was in TP. TP comes last in the timeline because when I beat it I saw that in this one Ganondorf was actually dead this time. Four Swords fits in there somewhere i guess, that link would be link #4 I guess lol.

Well that’s it any suggestions/comments?
TP can't be in the same timeline as TWW, as the split timeline has been confirmed, and it's been confirmed that MM and TP are on the child timeline and TWW/PH are on the adult timeline.
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:17 AM
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

Since you've failed as yet to place an updated timeline, I will try to do it for you, based on what you've said.

OoT-TP-tWW/PH
OoT/MM-AlttP/LA/-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

TMC-FS/FSA

Is that correct or did I get it wrong?

That timeline, by my reckoning, is impossible

This is the biggest doozy I can think of to throw your way for now.

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"tWW is hundreds of years after the events the Adult ending of OoT."
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"TP is in a land approximately one hundred years after the child ending of OoT"
Right there, that means:

OoT/MM-TP
OoT-tWW/PH

That's a confirmed arc. Just as much as AlttP-LoZ/AoL is.
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Old 05-13-2007, 03:24 AM
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I will also point out that there really is no way to prove that LA was all a dream, and wasn't just link living within the tangible incarnation of the wind fish's dream as stated in the game.

I'd suggest, when constructing a timeline, leaving opinions such as "LA was a dream of links and not the wind fish's" out of the timeline theory, and simply including the fact that "LA is after ALttP, as proven by statements in the guide and on the back of the box." This way, you're leaving out opinion and stating proven fact.
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Re: revised timeline theory of mine

Things like "LA is just Links dream" cannot really be proven right, but they can't be proven wrong neither as there is not enough evidence. Same goes for a lot of things in MM, as one of the most confusing Zelda games in my book.

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Yes it does. But it also remains in the adult time because the adult time is basically child time + 7 years and when Link travels back to his child age the MS is there, thus it will be there in the adult time after 7 years, meaning in the adult time the MS is always present while in the child time it doesn't exist while Link is in the "future".
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:17 AM
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When the timeline gets split everything is essentially doubled except Link because Zelda sends him specifically back into the child timeline. There are now two Master Swords, two Zeldas, two Ganondorfs and even two windmillmen (but in different timelines) if you want to look at every character. But there is only one Link.
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Old 05-13-2007, 01:29 PM
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2 Tingles... ugh even the thought frightens me... -.-

Wasn't there a discussion some time ago where somebody suggested that Tingle wasn't include in the split because he can move trough dimension and that he can travel trough the adult and child timeline as he wishes? <.<
But that brings us back to the subject if Termina's timeline acts as the Hyrulean one or is it independent...
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the only time the master sword is not in the pedestal in OoT is when Adult Link uses it in the Adult timeline. When he puts it back when he's done, he goes back to the child timeline and by everyone's reckoning but Link's, Link never touched the sword. Think of the Adult timeline like a locked room. When the room is unlocked, he takes the key with him, but when he locks it again, to keep the room locked, you have to keep the key in the lock.

This was the effect of what Rauru did to the master sword in OoT. After Hyrule was saved, the Hero could pull the sword again in TP or tWW and use it without effecting time or the sacred realm.

And no, Tingle cannot move through time. That was something that was suggested by TRCRL or whatever, which is decidedly not canon. Every Tingle that shows up in a new game therefore, is just a new Tingle.
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Wasn't there a discussion some time ago where somebody suggested that Tingle wasn't include in the split because he can move trough dimension and that he can travel trough the adult and child timeline as he wishes? <.<
But that brings us back to the subject if Termina's timeline acts as the Hyrulean one or is it independent...
That was me. It's proven in TFPRCRL (Tingle RPG).
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