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The Hyrulean Royal Family

Using just the Royal Hyrulean Family, their bloodline, Zelda’s responsibilities, and the state of the triforce relative to the royal family…

LoZ:
State of the King
No King
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
none
Evident bloodline
no mention
Zelda
Zelda oversees, evidently, the finding of a hero to bring the triforce back together.
Link’s relationship to the royal family
Link receives a note from Zelda
State of the Triforce
the royal family had power and wisdom, and then Ganon stole both
State of Hyrule Castle
No castle

AoL backstory
State of the King
King of Hyrule, has no one to give the triforce to
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Prince hires a magician, a magician who comes out of his shadow, much like the twili.
Evident bloodline
King of Hyrule casts a spell on the triforce.
Most likely Hylean because of high amount of magic use.
Zelda
Zelda is enchanted with sleep.
Link’s relationship to
No Link
State of the Triforce
In the King’s posession, but there is a record of trouble among the royal family
King of Hyrule has no one to give the triforce to
King hides part of the triforce
State of Hyrule Castle
No mention

AoL
State of the King
No King
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Impaz is a protector of the Royal family, especially Zelda.
If Impaz is a family surname, then she could be a member of the Shiekah
Evident bloodline
No mention
Zelda
One Zelda stays south, and the other is asleep till the end.
Link’s relationship to
Link is involved with helping to rebuild the kingdom, because of his relationship with Impaz, and Impaz’ knowledge of the triforce, Impaz’s family seems to be in the stewardship position, perhaps in the absence of a king.
State of the Triforce
Wisdom and Power are with the Royal family, Link goes on a quest to find courage.
State of Hyrule Castle
No Hyrule castle, but many castles exist throughout the land. Sleeping Zelda is in North Castle.

AlttP backstory
State of the King
speaks of Aghanim overthrowing the King
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Sages help protect the royal family, and seal Ganon in the sacred realm
Evident bloodline
No mention
Zelda
She was the daughter of a sage.
Link’s relationship to
No Link.
State of the Triforce
In the sacred realm
Triforce seems to be forgoten,
sacred realm has been sealed to keep ganon from escaping.
State of Hyrule Castle
Aghanim overthrows Hyrule Castle

AlttP
State of the King
King returns at the end of the game.
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Link is of the bloodline of the Hylian Knights, an order devoted to the protection of the royal family
Evident bloodline
Game speaks of the ancient Hylian language
ancient Hylian ruins, suggesting the race is dieing/thinning out.
Zelda
Zelda speaks telepathically with Link, suggesting they are both Hylian.
Link’s relationship to
Link is of the bloodline of the Hylian Knights, an order devoted to the protection of the royal family
State of the Triforce
Royal Family receives full triforce.
State of Hyrule Castle
It exists

LA: not important

OoT backstory
State of the King
The fierce war, the king became King Hyrule the first
thereafter, it would seem that Hyrule became a surname.
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Hylian royal gaurd
Evident bloodline
No mention
Zelda
No Zelda
Link’s relationship to
Link is the son of two Hylian knights who fought in the fierce war
State of the Triforce
Information about the Triforce and the sacred realm are contained in legends and prophecies
State of Hyrule Castle
Seems to be a fairly new, well furbished and well lived in building


OoT: (child ending)
State of the King
King Hyrule was seen in flashes, and was bowed to by Ganondorf,
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
The Shiekah run an underground campaign to protect the royal family, especially Zelda.
Evident bloodline
Zelda uses telepathy, and magic. Link is told he is actually Hylian
Zelda
Zelda is instrumental in bringing the information about Ganondorf to the King
Link’s relationship to
Link tells the King about Ganon
State of the Triforce
It is assumed that Ganon was apprehended and the triforce was never touched.
State of Hyrule Castle
Hyrule castle is replaced by Ganon’s tower, which is destroyed in the adult timeline.

OoT (Adult ending)
State of the King
Was killed or banished in the adult timeline.
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
same
Evident bloodline
same
Zelda
Zelda joins the Shiekah, disguises herself for protection.
Link’s relationship to
Link disappears from the Adult timeline after he is sent back
State of the Triforce
Ganon touches the triforce and it splits, but then he is destroyed.
State of Hyrule Castle
Seems to be a fairly new, well furbished and well lived in building

MM
State of the King
No king
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
NA
Evident bloodline
Hylian
Zelda
NA
Link’s relationship to
NA
State of the Triforce
As Ganon was apprehended and MM falls in the child timeline, It is assumed that the triforce was never touched
It would seem that the ToC was still on Link, even when he went back to his childhood.
However, we see the full triforce fly up to heaven (presumably back to the sacred realm) and then also on young Link’s hand thereafter.
Whatever the case, it is assumed that the triforce would leave Link when he left Hyrule and await a new bearer.
State of Hyrule Castle
Never destroyed

Oracles of X
State of the King
No King Mentioned
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Link is named the ‘guardian of the triforce’
Evident bloodline
No mention
Zelda
Zelda tells Link to go check on the triforce
Link’s relationship to
At the beginning Link is named the guardian of the triforce, something that should be reserved for the royal family.
State of the Triforce
Whole and evidently in the possession of the Royal Family
State of Hyrule Castle
In game, the castle is never called Hyrule Castle, it’s called the palace of the triforce shrine, or something like that.

Fourswords
State of the King
no king
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
None,
Evident bloodline
No mention, sprites have pointy ears
Zelda
Zelda gives Link entry to the four sword shrine.
Link’s relationship to
unkown
State of the Triforce
No mention of the triforce
State of Hyrule Castle
It exists

The Wind Waker
State of the King
Daphnes Nohanson Hyrule
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
All precautions are overseen by Daphnes
Evident bloodline
The king has very short pointy ears
The people of Outset Island have round ears
Zelda
Tetra keeps a piece of the ToW as a necklace she got from her mother.
Most likely not the daughter of Daphnes
Tetra is of royal blood, and is renamed Zelda, as is the tradition, when it comes time for her to protect the triforce
Link’s relationship to
Link is unrelated to the Hero of time, or the royal family, or the knights of Hyrule.
State of the Triforce
Ganon has once again gotten a piece of the triforce (or perhaps kept it from when he was slain in OoT)
The triforce of courage has been broken up and hidden all over Hyrule, presumeably by the royal family or by the goddesses
Tetra has a piece of the ToW and Daphnes has the rest
State of Hyrule Castle
At the bottom of the sea. Is destroyed at the end of the game

FSA
State of the King
Vaati takes control of Hyrule Castle
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Hylian Knights
Evident bloodline
No mention
Zelda
Zelda helps Link into the FS shrine
Link’s relationship to
unkown
State of the Triforce
No mention(notably, Ganon gains access to the pyramid of power and there gains the dark trident)
State of Hyrule Castle
Vaati takes control of Hyrule Castle

The minish cap backstory
State of the King
King Gustav, friend of the wind tribe
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
The Minish
Evident bloodline
No mention
Zelda
NA
Link’s relationship to
The Hero of men is garbed in green, he takes the Picorri sword
State of the Triforce
No mention (notably the triforce is depicted all over the place in artwork)
A Light force, a creation, or the providence of the minish is depicted instead of the triforce
State of Hyrule Castle
It exists

The minish cap
State of the King
King Daltus
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
Hylian Knights
Evident bloodline
The Hylian sprites all have pointy ears, yet they call themselves human
Zelda
Zelda is turned to stone, is saved at the end
Link’s relationship to
Link and Zelda are childhood friends
Link is the son of a blacksmith
State of the Triforce
No mention (notably the triforce is depicted all over the place in artwork)
A Light force, a creation, or the providence of the minish is depicted instead of the triforce
State of Hyrule Castle
It exists, but looks like a smaller castle

Twilight Princess Backstory
State of the King
No mention (notably, the sages deal with the execution, while it was the King in OoT who learned of Ganondorf’s deeds)
the King must be alive and well at the time young Link points to Ganon as a criminal.
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
No mention, though it is mentioned that criminals were sent to Desert Colossus
Evident bloodline
Hylian
Zelda
Zelda is overthrown by Zant
Link’s relationship to
No Link mentioned
State of the Triforce
Unknown, until the ToP shows up “mysteriously” on Ganon’s hand during his execution
State of Hyrule Castle
Has gotten a lot bigger since OoT

Twilight Princess
State of the King
No King mentioned, and yet Princess Zelda still calls herself the Princess, but seems to be the ruler of Hyrule (may suggest a Patriarchal order)
Protectors/Helpers of the Royal Family
The Hylian Guard. The Shiekah live in the hidden town, that has been deserted. It is said that Zelda hid out there when she was younger
Hylian knights appear as ghosts, helping the chosen hero on his way
Evident bloodline
Hylian
Zelda
Zelda is much older in this game, does not know of Link in the beginning
Zelda sits on the throne, with no evidence of a royal family other than her, even in times of prosperity
Zelda is very powerfull, and gives Midna both her powers and the power of the triforce for a time.
Link’s relationship to
Link is a Hylian living among Ordonians in Ordon Village.
No relationship to the Royal family but there are prophecies about him among the Twili
Link has a ghost of his bloodline teach him the skills of the hero (may be evidence pointing to lineage with the Hero of time, or at least with the Hylian Knights)
State of the Triforce
Triforce stays in the sacred realm, and yet Ganon, Link, and Zelda still get the mark of the power of the triforce
State of Hyrule Castle
Seems to show a royal family and castle on the decline.
Hyrule Castle is at least partially destroyed at the end of the game

(Will be adding Hyrulean Royal Family, Part Duex shortly, that will pull the necessary timeline connections from this evidence)

here's another way of looking at it.


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Old 05-12-2007, 06:14 AM
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Part duex:
__________________________________________________ _________

Key: |____| or |-----| shows when something is a thing
blank space shows when it is no longer.

example:
Castle exists........castle stops existing....Castle rebuilt
|______________________|.(blank space...|____________|

__________________________________________________ _________
the old UWM timeline:



Pros:

The triforce story is imaculate, as well as the placement of the royal family, when there is a king and when the king dies, and doesn't come back for a while. TP is the major bump there, however, as the king disapears from OoT, but then is alive and well in tWW.

Cons:

with the UWM theory, there are plot holes from one side to the other. The castle is destroyed, disapears for half the series and magically comes back and is prominent again, and then disapears entirely. The 'royal gaurd' is messed the heck up too, the knights and the shiekah are definately not around/not important enough to be mentioned and very well may have died off amidst the flood, but then they magically come back, and then one replaces the other.
__________________________________________________ ______________

Daphne's timeline:




Pros:

Daphne's timeline rolls through this scrutiny surprizingly well.
the King line is beautifull, with no king from the end OoT to the end of AlttP, and an explaination in AlttP; the king returns.
The royal protectors work well too, exept for the hiccup where they seemingly disapear in tWW and then reapear in TMC.
The Hylian blood line is imaculate as well, with is pittling out in AlttP, and not resurfacing.
An interesting scenario happens in the adult timeline, in tWW, Daphnes takes back the triforce, wishes on it, and then it returns to the sacred realm, and then we never hear about the triforce again in a future game on that timeline.

Cons:

On both timelines there is a huge hiccup about the castle being destroyed and then resurfacing without explaination, or just the opposite, the castle exists, and then disapears in future titles.

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DP's timeline (or, new child timeline)

Child: OoT/MM-TP-TMC-FS/FSA-AlttP-LA-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

Adult: OoT-tWW/PH

Dp's old timeline (also TBK's timeline)

Child: TMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP-FS-AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

Adult: TMC-FS-OoT-tWW/PH

The new UWM timeline:


Child: OoT/MM-TP

Adult: OoT/MM-tWW/PH-TMC-FS/FSA-AlttP-OoA/OoS-LA-LoZ/AoL

My timeline


Child: TMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP

Adult: TMC-FS-OoT/MM-tWW/PH-FS-AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

MY BRAIN HURTS, and it's late, will finish later.

By the by, we're looking for trends, so when things happen, and then go away, and then pop up again, that's a bad thing. The best timeline will be the one that has the smoothest trends and the least annomolies.

These may be confusing, but if you know how to make flow charts for programming, this should be easy

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Old 05-12-2007, 11:21 AM
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OMFG!!!

Nice QS ... very nice.

Also not all the UWM place their majority of games after TWW. I place mine after TP aswell as HurriPen.
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Re: The Hyrulean Royal Family

Here's the Royal family tree I did some time ago. There's nothing special to it. It follows the original (and new) UWM line (with the Oracles placed after LA). Well, at least it's a nice presentation.


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Old 05-12-2007, 11:39 AM
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C'est magnifique monsieur quick_silver20

Although what you posted is most definitely not my timeline.
Here it is:

Child: tMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP-FSA-AlttP-LA-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

Adult: tMC-FS-OoT-tWW/PH

And I've decided to throw this away if anybody wants to know.
No timeline for me at the moment.

EDIT:

Oh and that is a wonderful way to present the lineage U-M.
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Child: TMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP-FS-AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

Adult: TMC-FS-OoT-tWW/PH

So what's different TBK?

Child: tMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP-FSA-AlttP-LA-LoZ/AoL-OoA/OoS

Adult: tMC-FS-OoT-tWW/PH

Oops, I put FS twice, or forgot to put an A on the end.
other than that, they're exactly the same.

As I said, you had the timeline that DP had about two years ago.

It probably looked like the title was on the bottom, so it looked like yours was at the top of your name
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Old 05-12-2007, 10:43 PM
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Very nice presentation, very nice analyzation of the royal family.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:50 PM
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Oh, terribly sorry quick_silver20.
I was looking at the one above it... tis quite late here.
But yes, that is and was my timeline.
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added Daphne's timeline flow chart
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added pros and cons to old UWM and Daphne's timelines.

retouched the flow charts so they're hopefully earsier to read.

Sorry this doesn't go faster, it takes about two hours to do one of those... it's a big headache, but I want to eventually have one for every major timeline presented at ZU

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Old 06-24-2007, 09:22 PM
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how long did it take to make that first post
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