The Hero's Sword

Does anyone else find it significant that the Hero's sword shown in AoL is almost identical to the Four Sword?





Bear in mind that the jewel in the hilt of the four sword is coloured differently for each of the four Links.
Could this shed more light on the identity of the Hero of Men? TMC depicts the erstwhile Picori Sword being reforged and gaining new 'splitty-uppy' powers. And the old man that gives Link his sword in LoZ could be anyone - even an enlarged Minish, like Ezlo in the last scene of TMC. If Ganon gets killed at the end of LoZ, then his rebirth as an 'ancient demon reborn' in FSA is unsurprising.

As nice a link it would be, I don't think there is a real connection here, there is too much assumption and the swords only appear similar, not exact. Coincidence if anything...

The hilt and handle of the AoL sword is brown, and the hilt is rather thin, whereas the Four Sword has a gold hilt and handle, and the hilt is noticably thicker than that of the AoL sword. The blades are also considerably different too. The Four Sword has a blade that starts out thin and then curves into a wider shape, but the AoL sword blade is perfectly straight, as well as much longer than the Four Sword's blade.

Indeed they are only slightly similar. Also if they had intended to use the sword from AoL as the Four Sword, surely something would have been said of its origin in AoL, or FSA would have stated the sword went on to be used in later battles against evil, as AoL is popularly believed to go after the FS games. Also there would need to be an explanation as to how the Four Sword lost its power to split the user into four...

Originally Posted by Darknut King

Indeed they are only slightly similar. Also if they had intended to use the sword from AoL as the Four Sword, surely something would have been said of its origin in AoL, or FSA would have stated the sword went on to be used in later battles against evil, as AoL is popularly believed to go after the FS games. Also there would need to be an explanation as to how the Four Sword lost its power to split the user into four...

But what if the Four Sword games come after LoZ and AoL?

An explanation would still be needed as to how the sword lost its power, and why the sword was needed in that quest?
If you believe that that is the placement of the FS games, then I see why you could argue the point, but do you place the games that far down the timeline though?

To be honest, the LoZ/AoL arc is fairly insular and is almost as fluid in its placement as the OoX games. You can put those after any game that finishes with the Triforce in one piece, so technically it's possible for them to come directly after TWW (or PH if that doesn't feature the Triforce). Besides which, I have... weirder ideas on timelines that allow for the FS saga to still be quite early, but I won't get into that here.

In any case, as for the 'losing the power' problem, like I said, if LoZ/AoL come before TMC then you could simply have the Hero's Sword from LoZ/AoL be broken in TMC and then reforged by Melari (it's Melari, isn't it? All their names sound the same), gaining new powers in the process.

Also, in rebuttal to Sentient's points about the swords looking subtly different, I'd like to point out that the Four Sword doesn't even look like itself between TMC and FS. Here's the sword in TMC:



If you compare that with the sword in the FS pic I gave earlier, it's as different from the FS sword as the AoL sword, even though they're DEFINITELY the same sword.

Originally Posted by Evilsbane

In any case, as for the 'losing the power' problem, like I said, if LoZ/AoL come before TMC then you could simply have the Hero's Sword from LoZ/AoL be broken in TMC and then reforged by Melari (it's Melari, isn't it? All their names sound the same), gaining new powers in the process.

Then the sword from AoL would be the Picori Sword... And I just can't see that happening. I havn't played AoL, but if the Hero's sword came down from the sky and all that is says in the MC prolouge, then we're talking.

Originally Posted by AzKicker

Then the sword from AoL would be the Picori Sword... And I just can't see that happening. I havn't played AoL, but if the Hero's sword came down from the sky and all that is says in the MC prolouge, then we're talking.

Well Link got the sword in LoZ. To be fair, there wasn't much room for cutscenes in a NES game. A non-descript old guy just said 'Master using it and you can have this', and gave it to Link. The guy COULD'VE been a Picori who'd used a portal to make himself bigger like Ezlo, but he could've just as easily have been a Hylian with a penchant for handing out swords - no details are given, really.

Originally Posted by Evilsbane

Also, in rebuttal to Sentient's points about the swords looking subtly different, I'd like to point out that the Four Sword doesn't even look like itself between TMC and FS. Here's the sword in TMC:

If you compare that with the sword in the FS pic I gave earlier, it's as different from the FS sword as the AoL sword, even though they're DEFINITELY the same sword.

The only difference between the TMC Four Sword and the FS Four Sword is that the blade doesn't start out thin at the bottom.

Originally Posted by Sentient

The only difference between the TMC Four Sword and the FS Four Sword is that the blade doesn't start out thin at the bottom.

Not so; the circle in the middle of the hilt has three lines coming out of either side in TMC's Four Sword but it only has one line coming out of either side in FS's Four Sword. FS's Four Sword has a red sphere in the end but TMC's Four Sword has a blue sphere with the Triforce.

How is this less significant a difference than AoL's sword having a slightly different shade on the section that's angled toward the camera plus a part of the hilt being a bit narrower than the one in FS?

I don't intend to really get into this debate, but they are very similer and could be the same, think of the Master Sword. It looks similar in the games thaty have it , but it's always different looking in some way.

This topic is missing a very viable point: the FS was called the White Sword before it got infused with the elements in TMC. In LoZ, the second sword you received was called the White Sword.

Make of that what you will.

Originally Posted by HurriPen

This topic is missing a very viable point: the FS was called the White Sword before it got infused with the elements in TMC. In LoZ, the second sword you received was called the White Sword.

Make of that what you will.

That's a very good point. So we have a game that mentions a previous hero's adventure. The intro from TMC shows a hero defeating a Moblin and an Octorok - which are both enemies found in, among other games, LoZ. We also have two swords that look too similar to summarily dismiss as coincidence, and have the same name in their midway incarnation. Then, the final game of the FSA trilogy has Ganon being reborn, and regaining a Trident that he apparently used in a previous incarnation.

I don't really agree with this theory. The two blades are entierely different.

Also OoX can't come after TWW because we see the Triforce peices fly away at the end.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

I don't really agree with this theory. The two blades are entierely different.

Also OoX can't come after TWW because we see the Triforce peices fly away at the end.

Who said anything about OoX?

Who said anything about OoX?

the LoZ/AoL arc is fairly insular and is almost as fluid in its placement as the OoX games. You can put those after any game that finishes with the Triforce in one piece, so technically it's possible for them to come directly after TWW

You posted that yourself.