A Completely Developer Stated Timeline

Well this is the timeline that's based off solely eveloper quotes.
No ingame evidance is going to be used.

Newer developer quotes stand against old ones.

And before I begin ... This is NOT the timeline I belive in.


First timeline: OoT-LoZ/AoL-ALttP (LA?)

Second timeline: OoT/MM-LoZ/AoL-ALttP/LA

Third timeline: TMC-FS/FSA-OoT/MM-TP-TWW/PH-LoZ/AoL-ALttP/LA

Forth timeline: TMC-FS/FSA-OoT/MM-TP
TMC-FS/FSA-OoT-TWW/PH

LoZ/AoL-ALttP/LA which can be placed after either timeline.

Comments of how the developers have no idea what they're talking about?

Complete developer-statement timelines are easy, pshhh:

TMC-OoT/MM-TP
TMC-OoT-TWW/PH-LoZ/AoL-OoS/OoA-FS/FSA-ALttP/LA

ZOMG! But Lex! What about the FS is oldest statement?

Sentient...don't tell me you believe that statement now! 0.0 ...Or were you just being sarcastic?

Clearly there is more evidence against a pre-OoT placement of the FS saga. You pointed out most of it yourself.

Has about as much weight as the OoT-TP-TWW statement did, considering they seem to have contradicted it with the subsequent release of FSA...
Of course, TMC could just as reasonably be after OoT and before TWW, since it's just "very old"... which might explain why the Four Sword appeared in the hands of a wanderer in FS. Hmm...

Originally Posted by Sun Guardian

Sentient...don't tell me you believe that statement now! 0.0 ...Or were you just being sarcastic?

I was indeed being sarcastic, hence the "ZOMG" .

Originally Posted by Sun Guardian

Clearly there is more evidence against a pre-OoT placement of the FS saga. You pointed out most of it yourself.

Heh. Thank you.

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

Has about as much weight as the OoT-TP-TWW statement did, considering they seem to have contradicted it with the subsequent release of FSA...

I know, yet people still continuously use it as the omega proof of everything, or something along those lines.

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

Of course, TMC could just as reasonably be after OoT and before TWW, since it's just "very old"... which might explain why the Four Sword appeared in the hands of a wanderer in FS. Hmm...

It could go between OoT and TWW, but if it did, why would Link and Tetra need to try and find a new land if one already existed (bearing in mind TMC Hyrule is an island)?

Originally Posted by Sentient

It could go between OoT and TWW, but if it did, why would Link and Tetra need to try and find a new land if one already existed (bearing in mind TMC Hyrule is an island)?

“The boy's tale was passed down through generations until it became legend... But then...

“A day came when a fell wind began to blow across the kingdom. The great evil that all thought had been forever sealed away by the hero once again crept forth from the depths of the earth, eager to resume its dark designs."

Generations passed... but then...

So Ganondorf didn't even return until generations later anyway. Which leaves us with some undetermined period of time between OoT and the Flood.

EDIT: Anyway, I'm actually really liking the order I posted above, aside from screwed up stuff regarding Gorons moving on and off of mountains and tackling and abandoning merchantship a million times over. Unless we're just to assume that they always sold stuff, in which case there's really no problem. And personally, if FSA is proved to have no real story connection to ALttP, I'd even be happy with that whole arc being first. ^_^




Ahhhh, but yes. If people are going to deny the Miyamoto Order, I don't see why they even bother arguing developer quotes like FS/TMC first, two endings/split timelines, etc. as having any weight. Obviously the man had the LoZ-ALttP order in mind when he made the rest of the games.

Yeah, but Lex, if there was peace between the time of Ganondorf's return and OoT, which there obviously was, then there would be no game because there is no Link and no villain. No Link because there is no villain to cause a hero to appear. And that's because of ALttP:

Originally Posted by ALttP

When disaster befalls the Royal Family of Hyrule, a hero is destined to appear.

Something along those lines...I'm no good with remembering quotes anymore.

Well, it's a good thing there'd probably be a monster gap between FSA and OoT (assuming FSA is before), huh? But still, there's considerable continuity between FSA and ALttP, and none between any game and OoT (if the game is placed before).

Yes, yes, I quite agree with you. However, I strongly believe in a pre-ALttP placement of FSA.

What developer quote has ever placed AlttP/La last? I heard LA maybe just after MM or between OoT and MM, but at the time they said nothing about where AlttP went.

If you go strictly by in game evidence, and miss the split (which could... possibly happen to a lot of people, but I had thought about it before any official stance was taken, after tWW) You'd get the old UWM timeline...

OoT/MM-TP-tWW/PH-AttP/LA-OoA/OoS-LoZ/AoL

and

TMC-FS/FSA-AlttP

With a very shaky reason (namely, the triumph forks, and maybe a backdrop) for placing TMC after tWW or not placing the FS saga in the timeline at all

and following only developer quotes, you get:

TMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP
TMC-FS-OoT-tWW/PH

and

AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL

and

OoA/OoS

and

FSA

Put, as I see it, the best evidence from both forms of evidence together and you get

TMC-FS-OoT/MM-TP
TMC-FS-OoT-tWW/PH-FSA-AlttP/LA-LoZ/AoL-OoS/OoA

And the only thing... some of the UWM and I will never see eye to eye on, maybe until PH disproves one or the other, is the importance of the developer quotes with relation to the FS saga placement.

But everyone must admit that, forming your timeline strictly off the developer quotes, gives the FS saga the early placement. I would say both arguements are perfectly arguable, except that in my opinion, there is not enough in game evidence to support their placement anywhere, and you must therefore go with the highest empirical evidence.

Miyamoto (after release of OoT): OoT - LoZ/AoL - ALttP

OoT (Adult) ---tWW---PH---AlttP---LA---LoZ---AoL---OoS---OoA---TMC---FS---FSA
||
OoT
||
OoT (Child) --- MM --- TP /

I know this maybe going agianst this, but this is what I thought in my FS and MS theory thread. Though. I am just trying to piece things together. Meh. Who knows what the true timeline is.

Originally Posted by quick_silver20

With a very shaky reason (namely, the triumph forks, and maybe a backdrop) for placing TMC after tWW or not placing the FS saga in the timeline at all

There is plenty of evidence for a post-TWW placement of TMC and the FS Saga, way more than there is for a pre-OoT placement in fact.

Originally Posted by quick_silver20

And the only thing... some of the UWM and I will never see eye to eye on, maybe until PH disproves one or the other, is the importance of the developer quotes with relation to the FS saga placement.

We don't see eye to eye because the UWM apply context to the only quote suggesting an early placement of the FS Saga, and realise that the statement never really held held any weight to begin with, let alone now.