Why is the King of Hyrule missing from TP?

I've started my second play through of TP and a question came to mind while I was watching the second Zelda + Midna scene. What happened to the king of hyrule during TP? I guess he could have been killed in the game preceding TP or that this is just a time period beween kings. Still, it left me wondering because the game never said he was killed (I think most zelda games tell you what happened to the king during the prologue). I was just wondering what ZU's theorists would have to say on this matter.

Well, Ocarina of Time doesn't make any mention of the king being killed, though it's implied. I'd say the same is implied in Twilight Princess.

Well, let's see. No king was mentioned in the first two games. The king's death is explained in ALttP. The game doesn't say if Daphnes dies in OoT, though there is evidence leading to that. He isn't there after seven years, but was definitely mentioned in the game. He plays a bigger role in TWW and TMC, so we know what happens to him.

In short, Zelda's father doesn't play a large role in any game besides TWW and TMC, and no Queen has ever been mentioned. I hope that answers your question.

Ganondorf's actions in TP tended to be what his actions were in the seven years.

1) Causes eruptions on Death Mountain;
2) Freezes Zora's Domain
3) Drains Hylia Lake
4) etc. etc.

Killing the king probably is encompassed in that fold, hence why Zelda wears the funeral cloak when you meet her.

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

Killing the king probably is encompassed in that fold, hence why Zelda wears the funeral cloak when you meet her.

That's a funeral cloak? Dang, that kills my theory about her wearing it to hide her twilight form.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

That's a funeral cloak? Dang, that kills my theory about her wearing it to hide her twilight form.

I think it was the triforce that protected her. Or it could've been an enchanted cloak

As for the king, he's gotta be dead. Zelda is after all ruling the kingdom.

/nods

All that makes sence. It just seemed odd to me that the king wasn't mentioned at all during TP. Your right though, he isn't all that important to the story.

The cloak is apparently a Sheikah funeral shroud (bears the Sheikah symbol, remarkably similar to traditional Shinto mourning shrouds, I believe), and doesn't appear to help Zelda keep her form; she removes the hood several times without ill effects.

I'd never thought about that, but the mourning shroud seems to be a good clue that Zelda's father is dead (and her mother suspiciously missing, as always). After all, when Zant storms the castle, it is Zelda on the throne, ordering the knights, not her father.

I don't think Zant killed her father, because of the fact Zelda is in power when he invades the castle. Her father may have died of natural causes or illness, prior to Zant's invasion. Recent enough that she is mourning when she is not attending to matters of state.

For the record, I don't think the king died in ALttP. I think the whole situation was a reference to the LotR scenario in which Wormtongue manipulates King Théoden, who is later restored by Gandalf.

I thought that the rationale behind the cloak being a funeral shroud is that she was mourning her kingdom. I mean, the idea it was a shroud came from interviews, and I am almost certain those interviews gave that reason.''

Honestly, I'd like to know more about Midna's relation to Zelda before Midna met Link. For some odd reason, when I first saw the princess, I started to get the impression that she opened a portal to the Twilight Realm to begin reparations with the wronged Twili: then of course it got all screwed up by Zant. But I am pretty sure that is not the case.

From a literary symbolism standpoint, she is mourning her kingdom. But within her own rationale, she may just simply be mourning her father's death.

I think Ganondorf was simply powerful enough to aid Zant in opening a portal to the Light Realm, probably through the Mirror. Zant smashes the Mirror of Twilight afterwards.

I think Midna and Zelda were confidantes of a sort prior to Link, but only thrown together due to their situation. Midna told Zelda of her plan to find the sacred beast, and Zelda is aware that Zant and his minions are out to destroy Midna. They grow much closer throughout the game.

They never seemed to get that close from my perspective: it's not like they hung out at the fairy fountain or anything (unless you count that emergency healing as getting closer).

On a tangential note, why have we never seen a Queen of Hyrule? Is it because Nintendo is nervous about discussing how the succession works (matrilineal or patrilineal)? Or because it might conceivably show Link what Zelda will look like in twenty years? I doubt that she can keep that figure for long, even with the ToW at her disposal . . .

There is a portrait of Tetra's mother in Tetra's cabin on her ship- her mother was brunette, I believe. But that's the only "Queen" we get, and she didn't even have a country.

Working off the British model, whomever has the royal blood is Queen or King, and their spouse Prince Consort or Princess Consort. Zelda, along with many other fantasy stories written in the modern day, often follows more modern approaches to several issues, such as the role of women; I think they would use the British model.

Mothers are very easy to write off; they can die in childbirth, be very ill, such and such and such. The Zelda series didn't introduce a King as a character we could meet until The Wind Waker; it may just take more time to see any Queens.

I'm guessing that in Hyrule you are a Princess until you get married. However, from the importance given to Zelda in the series, I seriously have suspicions that they possess a matrilineal line. I do not think that a son can ascend to the throne unless the females disappear. There is no evidence for this, I admit, but it is a pet theory of mine. AoL would have to be the only evidence we have that there were sons born to the Royal family, or more than one child at a time.

Just once though, I would like to protect Zelda from an assassination attempt. Is this too much to ask? Does she have to get captured if she gets involved in a game? Will she ever be playable in her namesake series (CD-i shouldn't be allowed veto power over Nintendo's creativity)?

Apparently in the Twilight Realm as well! Midna is ruling and still called a Princess.

I don't think it is a matriarchal line; the throne appears to go the first born.

Originally Posted by LexLionHart

For the record, I don't think the king died in ALttP. I think the whole situation was a reference to the LotR scenario in which Wormtongue manipulates King Théoden, who is later restored by Gandalf.

I agree with this.
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Offtopic:Lex,notice anything funny here??? *Hints at LOTR,Your post and my Pic*