The sages in TP

Who are they? They can't be the same ones from OOT, because they do not look the same, and how could they live for hundreds(Or 100 years) of years
after OOT?

Well from the Zelda Wiki

One of the most powerful and wisest beings in all of Hyrule. Rauru has lead the Chamber of Sages for many centuries

They're not immortal(Ganon Killed 3 so far in the series), but they can apprently live for a long time.

In TP they do not appear to be human either, they wear masks and have halos. Unless the 6 sages that we know of somehow changed their form, they cannot be those 6 from OOT.

The Zelda wiki is not absolute fact.
They don't have to look the same to be the same (see the Temple of Time).
Nobody said they lived for hundreds of years.

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I think that the TP Sages are supposed to be the original sages that Ganondorf probably killed in OoT's Adult Timeline, forcing Link to awaken new Sages.

Well,they definitely aren't the sages from Adult Timeline OOT.
I think that they are Arbiters and/or the teachers of the Royal family.
As for the "leader" of the sages in TP,anyone thinks that this may be Rauru?

Originally Posted by oni_lunk

Well,they definitely aren't the sages from Adult Timeline OOT.
I think that they are Arbiters and/or the teachers of the Royal family.
As for the "leader" of the sages in TP,anyone thinks that this may be Rauru?

this is like i think about it

Originally Posted by HurriPen

I think that the TP Sages are supposed to be the original sages that Ganondorf probably killed in OoT's Adult Timeline, forcing Link to awaken new Sages.

I was thinking that this may be the case.
But TP follows the child timeline and comes after MM.
Link is returned back to his time so wouldn't those original sages still be alive?

Maybe they are the original sages?
Or they could be a new set of sages entirely. We don't know for sure how long they are able to live, so tthis could be the case.

Um, that was exactly what I said. What post did you read? I wrote that under the assumption that TP is in the Child Timeline where the original Sages survived.

And honestly, do these guys look like they die easily? If they were not floating and glowing and possessing detached functional body parts, I might believe that it was possible for these guys to die of old age.

Seriously though, where did these guys come from? I assume they are not dead.

I believe these may be the Sages that rose in the absence of the Seven Sages from Ocarina of Time's adult ending. After all, Saria and company were never awakened as Sages in the child timeline; they may have never been awakened as Sages. They all appear to be Hylian men, or at least Hylian men originally.

Now, due to their forms... they may be projecting from the Sacred Realm, due to their heavily stylized forms. Rauru, after all, resided in the Sacred Realm, and perhaps that is the norm for Sages. Ganondorf was powerful enough to kill a Sage through such a projection.

Maybe this is what Sages are supposed to look like, and all the other sages we have met were amateurs (except for Rauru: but he might just be different [leader]). Also, oni_lunk, I do not think that Rauru could be in charge of these guys unless he is in disguise in his "projection mode". All 6 are accounted for.

Sages can project from even beyond the grave; Fado and Laruto showed that to us.

Traditionally, each race has their own Sage. Due to the fact all the Sages of Twilight Princess look like Hylian men, I think the form they take if they project may be a form of theater or ceremony, much like a judge's robes and wig. They take on the long ears (to hear the Goddesses' will) and the beards (to symbolize... something, perhaps wisdom?), despite the fact that two of them are probably Goron and Zora.

Um yeah, Sages can stick around when they are dead, but they cannot do anything in that state at all. Otherwise, their prayers could still keep the Master Sword charged in WW. All anyone can do when dead in this series is pass on information or Kinstone fusion.

The Sages in TP are not dead. And I am not sure how it can be a tradition for each race to have its own sage. Two races were lacking sages in WW (Hylians and Gorons). The only evidence for that idea is OoT, where it could have been a recent innovation on the part of the King, done in the spirit of diplomacy and with divine right.

Originally Posted by Mike87

They're not immortal(Ganon Killed 3 so far in the series), but they can apprently live for a long time.

Who were those 3 I'm drawing a blank. I know the one from the cutscene in TP buy other then that.......can't remember.

Originally Posted by HurriPen

I think that the TP Sages are supposed to be the original sages that Ganondorf probably killed in OoT's Adult Timeline, forcing Link to awaken new Sages.

This sounds correct. Since TP takes place in the child timeline in which Ganondorf did not take over then the sages (besides Rauru) probably would not have been killed and Link wouldn't have awakened the others as sages for that time making the original ones go on into TP.

Although what if (I don't know if it does or not) the sacred realm isn't really effected by time travel and after Link goes into the future when he comes back the sages he awakened stayed sages for all times because you do see them in the end credits in the child timeline.

Originally Posted by HurriPen

The Sages in TP are not dead.

Right; the fact Sages can project in death means they can project in life as well, most likely.

Originally Posted by HurriPen

And I am not sure how it can be a tradition for each race to have its own sage. Two races were lacking sages in WW (Hylians and Gorons). The only evidence for that idea is OoT, where it could have been a recent innovation on the part of the King, done in the spirit of diplomacy and with divine right.

Consider, however, each of the Temples. The Sages are intricately linked to their specific Temple; Ruto even flees to hers. Each Temple is only available to their specific race; only Gorons can survive the heat in the Fire Temple. Only Zora can breathe in water to access the Water Temple. The Gerudo are the only ones who can access the Spirit Temple. The Shadow Temple is built in a village started by Sheikah. Only people who know their way in the Lost Woods (i.e., Kokiri) can get to the Forest Temple. And we don't even know where the Light Temple is!

Most of the Sages of Ocarina of Time are quite aware of Sagehood; Nabooru marvels at how somebody like her could be the Sage of Spirit. Zelda is quite aware of Sages. Due to the fact Link's mother perished during the Unification War, unification couldn't have occurred more than a decade prior to Ocarina of Time, and Nabooru is easily in her late twenties/early thirties.

Based on this, I think Sages occurred (as they must be born, not selected) in each race before unification.

Originally Posted by cupac82

Who were those 3 I'm drawing a blank. I know the one from the cutscene in TP buy other then that.......can't remember.

Ganondorf killed the Sage of Water from Twilight Princess, the Wind Sage Fado, and the Earth Sage Laruto.

Originally Posted by Eralk Fang

Sages can project from even beyond the grave; Fado and Laruto showed that to us.

This is what I think happens in TP. Notice those platform "halo" things above their heads, and that they're standing on.

Taking the example of TWW's King of Hyrule, characters who are set destined tasks by the goddesses can be given immortality until their destiny has been fulfilled.

Rauru was a sage charged with protecting the Hero of Time as he slept for seven years. The TP Sages were charged with protecting the Mirror of Twilight.

Actually, from the way the King of Hyrule kept on disappearing and reappearing, I was pretty sure that he was a ghost.

And I just noticed an odd pattern in the sages he has killed so far: there is one for each element that was represented by the Golden Goddesses. Earth for Din, Water for Nayru, and Wind for Farore. That is a rather strange coincidence.

Also, I do not think the TP Sages are ghosts: if they were, then the Water Sage could appear alongside them. If they were dead at the time of Ganondorf, then they would not have been the current Sages.